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« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2010, 03:39:03 AM »
Love all these brilliant little irises and they go from strength to strength each year. :)
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« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2010, 05:44:25 AM »
Lesley, as RR points out they are magic, very gratfiying in that they flower and develop into large patches so quickly, and that's the species, not just the hybrids!

Flowering today after 36 hours of rain;
Iris babadagica aff. - from Janis
Iris reichenbachii 'Standard Yellow Form'
Iris reichebachii 'Standard Purple Form'
Iris reichebachii  'Darkest Purple Falcate Form'
« Last Edit: April 21, 2010, 09:40:57 AM by Hristo »
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« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2010, 10:02:14 AM »
could somebody put a name to this iris for me i think its attica but could be wrong.
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« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2010, 11:11:41 AM »
Dave,

it will be interesting what other think, but I would find either I. attica or I. suaveolens/mellita possible.  Attica is a simple diploid (16 chr.), while I. suaveolens has 24 chromosomes.  Also, for the latter, the floral bracts are knife-edged, which your appear to be, I. attica is more like I. pumila  with rounded to half-knife edges.  A chromosome count would clear some things, as well as knowing from where the plant originated.
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« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2010, 12:29:47 PM »
My first pogon of the season- I think It is I suaveolens but I have to check the key because its not what is on the lable!
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« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2010, 07:13:39 PM »
Dave, Jamie, I'd lean towards Iris suaveolens, looks very much like my suaveolens var. violacea.
Peter, the clearance between the flower and leaves makes it look more like reichenbachii than suaveolens,
leaf form looks rather too gracile also, my suaveolens are broader and more 'scimiter' like!
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« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2010, 12:29:01 AM »
Peter what is the key you are referring to? Could you please add a link.
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« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2010, 08:17:39 AM »
Peter what is the key you are referring to? Could you please add a link.

Hello Pat, I do not have a key in the strict sense but in Brian Mathew's book "The Iris" (for example), under Iris attica he states " It is a very dwarf plant, .... more or less stemless,5 -10 cm in height in flower...strongly falcate leaves.. otherwise similar to I pumila though smaller "(variable coulors for both) " The two bracts subtending the solitary flower are rounded on the backs as they sheath the long perianth tube (5- 7cm); ocasionly the outer bract is some what keeled but never both of them as in I suaveolens (mellita)."
my plant despite the poor picture has a rounded inner bract and a keeled outer one, so it is clearly not not I suaveolens which was actualy my first guess, the lable said "dwarf purple reichenbachii" however under I reichenbachii Brian states that in this both bracts are keeled too
Under I pumila he states that both bracts are rounded or the outer one only slightly keeled and that pumila is deciduous while pseudopumila is not. so my plant is not pseudopumila which is in any case bigger than it. With other details given by Brian like the size of the plant stem length the outer bract usually being green and the inner one much paler for pumila, I must conclude my plant is I attica.

  In his text B.M. also gives referances to other more detailed works such as one J. Poulin from Roumania who worked on the varients of I pumila and published in "Buletinul Gradinii Botanice si al Muzeului Botanic dela Universitata din Cluj, volume 14 (1934); 15 (1935); 25 (1946) and in the Flora Republicii Socialiste Roumainia 11 (1966).
If Chris or anyone else can go to the trouble of obtaining the wild varients of the pogon species and working out which they are, I should be glad of material and treasure it, each form representing its individual niche in Nature.
Peter
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« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2010, 05:49:47 PM »
Time for some more Iris :

1 and 2) Iris attica - one I particularly like !
3) Iris lutescens - yellow form
4) Iris reichenbachii - wine coloured
5) Iris reichenbachii - my darkest form
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« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2010, 06:44:10 PM »
Time for some more Iris :

1 and 2) Iris attica - one I particularly like !
3) Iris lutescens - yellow form
4) Iris reichenbachii - wine coloured
5) Iris reichenbachii - my darkest form
I can see why the attica is a favorite, I like the wine coulored reichenbachii too!
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« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2010, 09:40:09 PM »
Luc,

Wonderful plants!
The Iris attica is so beautiful- no wonder why you like it  ;)
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« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2010, 10:31:35 AM »
Luc is the Iris attica a straight species?
Thanks Peter for the references - I should read Mathew more.
Pat Toolan,
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South Australia

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« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2010, 08:39:07 PM »
Very nice miniatures everybody  :)

Here is a very dark form of Iris lutescens, from south of France, and I. pumila

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« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2010, 09:52:15 PM »
Fred wow died and gone to heaven that dark form of  Iris lutescens is simply stunning would it be possible to get a little seed ;D
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« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2010, 10:01:29 PM »
yes... if I get some  ;)

wait and see... and remind me  ;D
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