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Collectors References and expedition initials
« on: February 22, 2010, 11:55:09 AM »
We got a Polygonatum sp. from the SRGC that has sprouted already.

It is marked CLD #447. Anyone have an idea who CLD is?

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Re: Collectors References and expedition initials
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2010, 12:09:10 PM »
Hi, John.... CLD denotes collections from the 1990  Chungtien-Lijiang-Dali expedition.
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Re: Collectors References and expedition initials
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2010, 12:23:18 PM »
 This ones data: Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh, Chungtien, Lijiang & Dali Expedition (1990), China: Yunnan, NW: Dêqên Zang Aut. Pref.: Zhongdian Co.     3550 m.

 The identification for this one is P. sibiricum, or so they say. I do not grow it so I cannot offer an opinion on it.
 
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Re: Collectors References and expedition initials
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2010, 01:55:54 PM »
A list of collector's initials can be found here:

http://apps.rhs.org.uk/rhsplantfinder/documents.asp

Although far from complete, it does include CLD.

The above link is broken - see pdf of llist in reply 13 further down this page
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Re: Collectors References and expedition initials
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2010, 03:27:53 PM »
Hi, John.... CLD denotes collections from the 1990  Chungtien-Lijiang-Dali expedition.

Maggi / Aaron / Gerry- Thanks so much. extremely helpful.

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« Last Edit: February 22, 2010, 03:34:32 PM by johnw »
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Re: Collectors References and expedition initials
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2010, 04:54:31 PM »
Some other Collector's initials which may be of help:
AS      Arne Strid
BARAKA     Nordic Georgis Exped.
BATM     Nordic Exped. To Batman
EM   Ernst Markus
EP    Eric Pasche
F&Z J. Fox * H. Zetterlund
GBK    G. Bakshi Khaniki
GT     Gerben Tjeerdsma
HeHeHe     H. Petterssson, H. Sjöman & H. Zetterlund
HKEP   H. Kerndroff & E. Pasche
H&S    M. Holmberg & U. Srtrindberg
JAN   John Andrews
JFL    Jelitto
JLMS     Jaeger & al
JP     Jimmy Persson
JKP   J. & K. Persson
KGB    Kunming-Gothenburg Bot exped. To NW Yunnan
KP      Karin Persson
KPPZ    M. Kammerlander, E. Pasche, J. Perssson & H. Zetterlund
KR      Keith Rushforth
K&W   Knoche & Wetzel
LST      Latvian Swedish Turkey Trip 2005
M&N   U. Molau & S. Nylinder
MV    Mart Veerus
MZ     Micha Zurovetz
NBA    Nilson, Bengtsso & Ahnby
OS     Ole Sønderhausen
PF      Paul Furse
PG     Phyllis Gustavson
PHS   P.H. Salvesen
P&Z   Persson & Zetterlund
PW    Per Wendelbo
RH    Ragnar Holmberg
SBLE    Sino-British Lijian Exped.
SEP     Swedish Exped. To Pakistan
S,KT&V      A. Strid, Kit Tan & Wold
SLIZE    Swedish, Latvian, Iranian, Zagros Exped.
S&Z      Strindberg & Zetterlund
T4Z     G. Tjeerdsma, H.Zetterlund, D.& R. Zschummel , Zagros.
UME   Uppasala Mongolia Exped.
ZAN     R. Holmberg (Zanskar)
ZE&S     Zetterlund, Erikksson & Strid


and don't forget about KV, Kurt Vickery.

 SSSE  : members of the SSSE  ( standing for Sino Scottish Swedish expedition  I think!)were  Ron Mcbeath  Jens Nielson,  Lars Danialson from Sweden and  Ian Christie.   - Should be the  Sino-Scottish Sichuan Expedition  2003
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Re: Collectors References and expedition initials
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2010, 05:46:57 PM »
Some other Collector's initials which may be of help:

HeHeHe     H. Petterssson, H. Sjöman & H. Zetterlund


That one is a hoot, obviously done to conjure a chuckle.  :D
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Re: Collectors References and expedition initials
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2010, 07:54:06 PM »
Useful; thanks Maggi.

SP for a narcissus: maybe Salmon & P...  ???
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Re: Collectors References and expedition initials
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2010, 07:56:13 PM »
Useful; thanks Maggi.

SP for a narcissus: maybe Salmon & P...  ???
Or maybe simply Narcissus species??
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Re: Collectors References and expedition initials
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2010, 07:57:36 PM »
Crikey, Gail, that would be a simple answer, wouldn't it?

Ashley, have you messaged Brian Duncan to ask him?
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Re: Collectors References and expedition initials
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2010, 08:05:02 PM »
Referencing some collector number abbreviations from the link above, I highlighted a few:

AC&W   Albury;  Cheese, M.; Watson, J.M.
BC&W   Beckett; Cheese, M.; Watson, J.M.
Mac&W McPhail & Watson  (I purchased a share of this Turkish expedition back in the late 1970s)

I had always hoped for a Mac & Cheese expedition  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Collectors References and expedition initials
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2010, 08:18:30 PM »
Ashley, have you messaged Brian Duncan to ask him?

I e-mailed him Maggi but perhaps should try a PM too.  

Great suggestion Gail ;D but possibly not because the full number the plant came with was SP47.
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Re: Collectors References and expedition initials
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2010, 08:41:37 PM »
JJA - Jim and Jenny Archibald
MS - Michael Salmon
BSBE - Bowles Scholarship Botanical Expedition to Iran, 1963. Brian Mathew was a young squirt at the time and this expedition played a role in his rise to his present stature.
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Re: Collectors References and expedition initials
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2010, 08:47:39 PM »
Since the pdf of the list from the RHS site is available to download, I don't seen any harm in placing it here... it is info from the PlantFinder publications....

* CollectorsReferences RHS.pdf (85.29 kB - downloaded 1201 times.) click on the name to download
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Re: Collectors References and expedition initials
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2010, 09:05:52 PM »
SP for a narcissus: maybe Salmon & P...  ???
Or maybe simply Narcissus species??
Ashley - SP does not occur in  the list of collectors included in Mike Salmon's seed list (2001-2002). The nearest is SB (Salmon & Blanchard).
JJA - Jim and Jenny Archibald
MS - Michael Salmon
BBE - Bowles Botanical Expedition (many decades ago; Brian Mathew was a young squirt at the time and this expedition may have led to his present stature.)
Rodger - I think this should be BSBE (Bowles Scholarship Botanical Expedition to Iran, 1963). The members were Brian Mathew, David Barter, Stuart Baker & David Pycraft.
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