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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2010, 09:23:06 AM »
Thanks Luc. Does that mean what I have as hungaricum Album is Velebit Star?

Velebit Star is a white (collected) form of C. hungaricum.
My plants received frost to -8°C in the last couple of weeks and the flowers stayed white !

I don't know if there are other white forms with different caracteristiques...
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2010, 09:36:44 AM »
PC says this of 'Velebit Star' :-
"A superb form raised from material first found in the Velebit mountains of Croatia.
This flowers reliably, making clusters of weather-resistant blooms in the midst of winter, when the bright palest pink stars, with contrasting black anthers, are valuable."

Dix Export say:-
" COLCHICUM hungaricum 'Velebit Star', pale pink, dark anthers "



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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2010, 10:05:06 AM »
Thanks. I'll relabel my plants today.
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2010, 11:17:53 AM »
I agree. I bought mine from PC as 'Velebit Star' and it has always been pale pink, but deeper pink after frost.
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2010, 12:10:22 PM »
PC says this of 'Velebit Star' :-
"A superb form raised from material first found in the Velebit mountains of Croatia.
This flowers reliably, making clusters of weather-resistant blooms in the midst of winter, when the bright palest pink stars, with contrasting black anthers, are valuable."

Dix Export say:-
" COLCHICUM hungaricum 'Velebit Star', pale pink, dark anthers "


If you look at the site of Leonid Bondarenko, you will see a picture with white flowers.
Is more confusion possible ?

It is my believe that a clone shouldn't be variable, or am I wrong ?
Isn't it possible that at least a part of the bulbs in the trade are raised from 2nd or even 3rd
generation seed ? That would explain the variation that we see...
« Last Edit: January 28, 2010, 12:12:05 PM by LucS »
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2010, 12:36:15 PM »
I don't know whether PC buys his from Dix- but the information I found suggested that 'Velebit Star' was collected by Antoine Hoog. I don't know if this means that Dix should have the 'real' thing. I am not sure if they would be bulked up by seed- in my experience they bulk up quickly from good sized corms.
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2010, 12:44:41 PM »
Flowering today in a recently uncovered bulb bed- the plant I am growing as Colchicum falcifolium.
Sorry for the glare we still have a lot of snow out there.
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2010, 05:55:09 PM »
No sign of pink in the flowers of my hungaricum

Here's mirzovae a few minutes apart. The second coloured by the sun. Most anthers for some reason deformed or mouldy
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2010, 05:17:50 PM »
Here is my Colchicum hungaricum

Colchicum hungaricum albiflorum

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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2010, 06:34:04 PM »
All these Colchicum are lovable!

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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2010, 06:42:00 PM »
Flowering today in a recently uncovered bulb bed- the plant I am growing as Colchicum falcifolium.
Sorry for the glare we still have a lot of snow out there.

Simon

Do you have any data regarding your Colchicum?

Im asking because this name contains a complex of a few species which i try to understand..., maybe by knowing its distribution it would be easier to classify them.

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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2010, 09:28:50 PM »
Oron, I believe it is C.falcifolium RRW99.12 from Buried Treasure, but I no longer have their catalogue to check the location.
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2010, 05:11:32 PM »
I bought a bulb of C. hungaricum 'Valentine' from Tony Dickerson at Birmingham World of Bulbs.  It's flowering now.  Are colchicums self-fertile or would I need another clone for seed set?
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2010, 08:50:39 PM »
I'm now very confused with my Colchicum hungaricum

Here is one just up in the last few days with no direct sun. Forced to open today and it is pink.

The pot full are continuing to be white
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2010, 10:33:16 PM »
Very nice Colchicum photos Mark.  By the way, you're looking a bit different today. ;D
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