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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #1065 on: August 03, 2015, 12:45:30 PM »
I showed the construction of this covered rockery in my Ardivachar blog, but it's probably better suited here.

To recap: the base was filled with sandy soil with 20mm chippings worked into the upper surface for extra drainage. Rocks were then laid, contours and raised areas were filled with sand. The surface was treated with a thin layer of John Innes compost with 50% extra grit. As planting progresses, a top dressing of grit will be applied.

   Chris' Arivachar diary is here : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11519.0  and the post mentioned above is reposted back there : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11519.msg338386#msg338386
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #1066 on: August 03, 2015, 01:31:13 PM »
   Chris' Arivachar diary is here : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11519.0

Thanks Maggi. The relevant bit is at the end of page 8.
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #1067 on: August 07, 2015, 03:57:21 PM »
Progress.
Plants settling in well: Dianthus myrtinervius in bloom.
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« Reply #1068 on: August 07, 2015, 10:48:43 PM »
Plants settling in well: Dianthus myrtinervius in bloom.

John, I fear that may be an imposter. It looks awfully like maiden pink. Seed of D. deltoides has been doing the rounds in the seed exchanges  wrongly labelled as D. myrtinervius for a while now. See also
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13443.0

True myrtinervius should look something like this
http://www.greekflora.gr/el/flowers/0843/Dianthus-myrtinervius

I think Plant World Seeds sell it.

Sorry! Tristan

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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #1069 on: August 07, 2015, 11:56:12 PM »
I got it from Rob Potterton, so if it's not D. myrtinervius he's selling a wrongly described plant.
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #1070 on: August 08, 2015, 09:33:02 AM »
It really is time we had a modern Dianthus monograph, isn't it?
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #1071 on: August 08, 2015, 12:30:45 PM »

True myrtinervius should look something like this
http://www.greekflora.gr/el/flowers/0843/Dianthus-myrtinervius
Sorry! Tristan

 Please note that the link given above is to  is to photo of  Dianthus myrtinervius subsp. caespitosus

For Dianthus myrtinervius -  a pic from Leif & Anita Stridvall   ex Macedonia : http://www.stridvall.se/flowers/gallery/Caryophyllaceae_1/342_27
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http://www.botanickateplice.cz/foto/foto/4302.jpg
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #1072 on: August 08, 2015, 02:39:53 PM »
Thanks Maggi. You're quite right. I couldn't find a reliable photo of the type form, or a description.

Do you think the two pictures in your links are the same species? Hard to tell I know but the Czech one is more deltoides like. Certainly they don't look the same.

I really think we need that monograph!

Best, Tristan, finally enjoying some warmth in Wales.


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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #1073 on: August 08, 2015, 06:02:53 PM »
Ralph's plant is a lot more compact than all the Dianthus deltoides  I have here. I mostly have the darker forms, which I prefer, but  they are all taller plants  in flower and with the foliage keeping more close to the stems.
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« Reply #1074 on: August 08, 2015, 06:29:26 PM »
Hi Maggi, yes it does look more compact than deltoides usually is. But the foliage and flower shape are very similar, and it's only just coming into flower. Would be interesting to see when it's fully out.

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« Reply #1075 on: August 12, 2015, 08:41:01 PM »
Constructing a home for alpine plants  - cross posting this here
Film with Christoph Ruby about how one can make an alpine garden at home.
 I am very pleased to  have been sent,by Hans Joschko, this link to a short film  from German TV - it is about the construction of a garden for rock plants- a project to bring the alpine home of these plants into a private garden. The piece films Christoph Ruby ( familiar to some from his pieces for the IRG e-magazine) who is director of the Botanic Garden of Hof, making and planting a fine little crevice garden. 
It is  less than 6 minutes long and cleverly produced. Using time-lapse  we see the construction and is  you watch it a couple of times you will get the drift, even without knowing any German! 
Here is the link :
http://www.br.de/mediathek/video/sendungen/querbeet/querbeet-felsspaltengarten-alpinpflanze-100.html
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #1076 on: August 13, 2015, 02:58:26 AM »
Thanks, Maggi, a very enjoyable video.  (If only building with rock could really be done that quickly.)
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #1077 on: August 24, 2015, 07:09:43 AM »

I photographed this lovely natural rock outcrop in the Barossa Valley North of Adelaide on the weekend.

Jamus Stonor, in the hills behind Adelaide, South Australia.

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« Reply #1078 on: August 24, 2015, 10:24:07 PM »
Jamus, your lovely natural outcrop reminds me (slightly), of my own not at all natural outcrop on Mt Clarendon (an old concrete washtub). The Saxifraga grisebachii 'Wisley is one of 15 plants on the mountain at present but there's room for about as many again, including some tiny bulbs. I'm going to Hokonui Alpines tomorrow to remedy that! ;D
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« Reply #1079 on: August 24, 2015, 10:25:51 PM »
I don't know why but in the processing to bring down the size, the first image went from colour to black and white. I can't get it back again, except perhaps by reprocessing the original?
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