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Narcissus July to September 2009 Mostly S.hemisphere
« on: July 13, 2009, 02:50:45 AM »
I was just wondering if any one has any pics of  true "Dove Wings", my one does not have the bright yellow trumpet. I will try to find my pic and see what you all think it is.
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2009, 10:39:02 AM »
Hi Everyone, this is what I purchased as Dove Wings last year, I am not sure that it is now but I still have it as one of my favourites. Any ideas on actual ID?
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Re: Narcissus July to September 2009 Mostly S.hemisphere
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2009, 01:02:28 PM »
Kees, not sure if you are familiar with the Daff Seek Web Site?

http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?value1=Dove%20Wings&lastpage=1
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2009, 12:13:43 AM »
Thanks David, I was not aware of it . It sure does look like the flower in type but not colouring, I like mine better  :P
I am going to use mine for crossing so good to see if it fertile.
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Re: Narcissus July to September 2009 Mostly S.hemisphere
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2009, 12:29:54 AM »
Kees,

How fresh are the flowers in your picture?  Are they just opened, or have they been opened for a couple of days?
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Re: Narcissus July to September 2009 Mostly S.hemisphere
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2009, 03:50:51 AM »
A few pics of current Narcissus at my place....

An original 'Fyno', unlike the seedlings I was showing recently.  At least it was purchased many years ago as this.

A more recent pic of my Narcissus 'Taffeta', showing it pretty much in full flower now.

Narcissus tazetta ssp laticolor (also called the Chinese Sacred Lily, apparently), what I received this as a few years ago, but I can't seem to find any info on that ssp.  I can find ssp orientalis under that common name.  So now I am not entirely sure what exactly the name of mine it.  Anyone able to help clarify?  Thanks.

Enjoy.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2009, 03:53:44 AM by Paul T »
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Re: Narcissus July to September 2009 Mostly S.hemisphere
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2009, 06:23:21 AM »
Paul,
You will find Narcissus tazetta ssp. lacticolor forma canaliculatus, there was only a ' c ' missing.
This is a beautiful winterflowering daffodil indeed!

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Re: Narcissus July to September 2009 Mostly S.hemisphere
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2009, 06:48:02 AM »
Gerd,

Thank you, that is why I couldn't find it when I went looking.  Another very long name for a Narcissus.  ;D  I'm familiar with the miniature species Narcissus canaliculatus (which I can't flower for the life of me, and have now given up and mostly got rid of!  ::)) but I am wondering why this would be form canaliculatus, or is that something to do with the colouration, which from memory is similar?

Thanks very much for finally solving that little mystery.  8)  Greatly appreciated.
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Re: Narcissus July to September 2009 Mostly S.hemisphere
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2009, 06:57:26 AM »
Paul, you are welcome! Concerning N. canaliculatus I made the same experience like you did - no flowers. This was very disappointing because it was about the time when I began to cultivate daffodils.

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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2009, 02:47:37 AM »
Paul, that pic was from last year. Is has done well and looks like it has multiplied to 5 bulbs. I will take pics of it this year and post them. It must have been a good season last year as most of my miniatures have increased from single bulbs to 4-6 now, will be interesting to see how many flowers I will get though.
I have buds on Jet Fire, Tete tete and others I am not sure of. I will post pics to see if any one knows names for them as they flower.
I noticed a pic of UFO earlier in this thread but the web site that I was referred to has a differet one for New Zealand is a Div 2 white/yellow and not a poet-shame I had my hopes up. Will still be a surprise when it flowers though.
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2009, 10:02:37 AM »
Hello. At the nursery we are offering for the first time a daffodil we have grown for many, many years named Narcissus elegans var intermedius, see image below. This looks like a Tazetta type, is sweetly scented, 25 - 35cm tall and flowers early April under cover in a bulb tunnel. In John Blanchards Narcissus book N. elegans var intermedius it is also listed as N. pallidiflorus var intermedius but no description is written. Can anyone provide a botanical description of elegans var intermedius and does the plant below key into that description?? Thanks Rob
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Re: Narcissus July to September 2009 Mostly S.hemisphere
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2009, 10:41:14 AM »
Rob,

Is it an autumn flowering variant?  N. elegans is one of the autumn flowerers isn't it?  It looks like it could be a jonquilla type to me, or more likely an assoanus or cordubensis (or similar) to my inexpert eye (I am never quite sure of the technical differences between these two)? ???
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2009, 10:57:42 AM »
Yes Paul, Narcissus elegans is an autumn flowering species, the plant we have labelled N. elegans var intermedius / N. pallidiflorus var intermedius flowers early April - that's mid spring on our side of the equator :-)
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Re: Narcissus July to September 2009 Mostly S.hemisphere
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2009, 11:27:40 AM »
Hi Rob
we grow N. x intermedius which is a cross between a jonquill and a tazzetta, but yours doesn't seem to have as much of the tazetta in its appearance.
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Re: Narcissus July to September 2009 Mostly S.hemisphere
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2009, 12:51:53 PM »
Howdy All,

A couple of pics of one of the Narcissus in flower at the moment.  I have pics of more, but haven't prepared them as yet.  This is Narcissus 'Galligaskins'.

Enjoy.
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