Crocus to identify? Post them here....

[Cyril L]

Hi Thomas

I have only just found your reply.  Thank you for the information.  I will dig up the corm when dormant to confirm.

Here is a picture of similar crocus close by on the raised bed, it must be the same.

[tonyg]

Hi Thomas

I have only just found your reply.  Thank you for the information.  I will dig up the corm when dormant to confirm.

Here is a picture of similar crocus close by on the raised bed, it must be the same.

Butting in (!) I'd say this one is definitely Crocus sieberi, probably ssp atticus but there are a couple of named clones 'Violet Queen' and 'Firefly' so it might be one of those.

[Cyril L]

Many thanks Tony.  It might be C. sieberi ssp. atticus as I have grown this in the past.  I have never grown 'Violet Queen' and 'Firefly'.

[annew]

Please can someone confirm this one (or suggest otherwise?).

[Thomas Huber]

Sorry Anne, can only confirm that this is surely NOT danfordiae.
Do you know where it was collected ?

[annew]

No, I got 'C. danfordiae' from 2 different sources in 2010, and I'm not sure which this is. Any ideas what it might be? And what does C danfordiae really look like?

[tonyg]

No, I got 'C. danfordiae' from 2 different sources in 2010, and I'm not sure which this is. Any ideas what it might be? And what does C danfordiae really look like?

This definitely ain't danfordiae.  The most notable thing about Crocus danfordiae is it's size, it is tiny.  Open flowers perhaps 15mm across, petals circa 10mm long.  Current thinking is that there are several similar taxa under the umbrella that we call Crocus danfordiae but all are similarly small flowered.

Here's a picture with my forefinger sideways on for scale.

Leaves are often very upright, flowers distinctly waisted when open.

Your plant looks like a biflorus cultivar type .... but not any of those on Thomas's online reference collection!

[Thomas Huber]

No further comments from me - it doesn't look like any cultivar that I know,
but surely a plant from the 'ex-biflorus complex'.....

[annew]

I don't think either of the two forms I have are correct, I'm pretty sure I would have noticed if they were tiny, given how keen I am on tiny things. That was probably the reason I bought them in the first place.

[annew]

I found a picture of the other one:

[tonyg]

I found a picture of the other one:

Pretty .... but danfordiae, I think not.

PS will I see you next month as I make a return visit to Leeds AGS?

[udo]

I found a picture of the other one:

Hello Anne,
this could be Crocus pseudonubigena. Mine of Cambridge Bulbs also look thus and have a little bit black anthers.

[annew]

Thanks, Dirk. I don't have a photo of the flower open, and it finished flowering long ago. I will look next year.
Tony, alas no, we will be at Kendal Show. We will miss Loughborough this year, so we thought a visit to Kendal would be good instead.

[pehe]

I've got these as C. chrysanthus EA Bowles. Could someone confirm that?
The are different from John Grimshaw's pictures in Hubi's COMPILATION OF CROCUS CHRYSANTHUS/BIFLORUS, but close to the picture in Bowles book Colchicum & Crocus.

Poul

[Maggi Young]

Poul, look here : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5060.msg138259#msg138259   - to see 'E.P. Bowles'   - just like yours.