Crocus October 2009

[mark smyth]

My goulimyi leucanthus has green sheaths

[Luc Gilgemyn]

Great pix everyone !!!
Thomas, your rock garden looks fabulous.. and it's only starting. 

[Janis Ruksans]

Still have few minutes till comes car to pick up me and I'm using those for few more pictures, Today I made picture (a little helped with opening of flower) of inside of this crocus grown as seedling of cartwrightianus CEH-613 (see September entry). Interesting that mother plants and other corms in this pot only started to show noses. It looks quite nice and I marked it for seperating. On another - form of C. kotschyanus leucopharynx which I got this autumn from Dirk. (Dirk, many thanks!). It is very different from form grown under name leucopharynx in my youth. The last form still didn't come up. And the last - one of most georgous autumn crocuses - C. robertianus.
Janis

[Gerry Webster]

Janis - very interesting to see C. hadriaticus 'Dodona' - the shape is very distinctive. I presume this is from the Antoine Hoog collection (AH8690)?

By the way, & in relation to the discussion of Herbert's varieties of C. hadriaticus, var. saundersianus was said to have come from Dodona. 

[Janis Ruksans]

Gerry, hadriaticus Dodona comes from Antoine and several others of his named varieties.

Now 3 more pictures. In September I showed white pallasii from Crimea. Today sun opened this flower and you can see inside. Next is traditional purple form of subsp. pallasii from Crimea. And the last - pulchellus hybrid ZEPHYR ( I can't to distuingish it from Leonid's speciosus LATE LOVE.)
Janis

[Thomas Huber]

And the last - pulchellus hybrid ZEPHYR ( I can't to distuingish it from Leonid's speciosus LATE LOVE.)
Janis

Janis, the photo on Leonids website shows clearly a plant with yellow pollen - not white as in Zephyr.
The throat in 'Late Love' looks white, not yellow.

[Thomas Huber]

My goulimyi leucanthus has green sheaths

Mark my photo is made from plants I received from you in 2005

[Thomas Huber]

Great pix everyone !!!
Thomas, your rock garden looks fabulous.. and it's only starting. 

Luc, I hope you are right - if that's all I have a big problem 

[Boyed]

And the last - pulchellus hybrid ZEPHYR ( I can't to distuingish it from Leonid's speciosus LATE LOVE.)
Janis

Janis,
Even without observation of pollen and throat colours, 'Zephyr' is quite easy to distingush from 'Late Love'. 'Zephyr' is much vigorous, rather large and has very beautiful flower shape, whlile 'Late Love' has modest look, smaller and its shape of blooms is not as perfect as 'Zephyr's'. Besides, 'Zephyr' is extremely floriferous. I consider it as the best autumn garden crocus.

I showed comparison pictures in Crocus Sptember 2009 thread (page 23).
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4099.msg111465#msg111465
You can also notice that 'Zephyr' has longer pistils.

[mark smyth]

I had spare Crocus in 2004!? Are they as supplied?

I said in September that Leonid's web site shows either correct photos but supplies wrong corms or correct corms and wrong photos

[Boyed]

Mark,
I always has suspections about what you said.
In Leonid website crocus 'Late Love' (photo below) has very pale lavender colour. Mine were always greyish-white, even having somewhat different flower shape; and they've never shown even a slight lilac tint.  But one thing is clear - crocus 'Late Love' looks radically different from 'Zephyr'

[Gerry Webster]

Crocus thomasii

From Archibald seed (pop. ref. 342.802), supposedly C. cartwrightianus. After a number of mishaps only two bulbs survive from this sowing. That shown here is not C. cartwrightianus.  I think it is probably C. thomasii  - as can be seen the style divides at the base of the anthers.

[mark smyth]

Boyed your 'Late Love' has yellow pollen -adding - I see you have Leonids photo. Mine have white so I will relabel mine as pulchellus. My new policy is to write the name of the supplier on my labels but for some reason I didnt write it on my ?'Late Love'. Is Leonid the only supplier?

[Luc Gilgemyn]

Whatever the name, it's a little beauty Gerry !!

[Boyed]

Boyed your 'Late Love' has yellow pollen -adding - I see you have Leonids photo. Mine have white so I will relabel mine as pulchellus. My new policy is to write the name of the supplier on my labels but for some reason I didnt write it on my ?'Late Love'. Is Leonid the only supplier?

Mark,
Yes, indeed. Yours also have longer pistils and much resemble 'Zephyr'