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Alessandro.marinello

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Vagaria olivieri
« on: September 12, 2009, 02:44:40 PM »
today in flower, Vagaria olivieri, endemic of Morocco :)
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Re: Vagaria olivieri
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2009, 09:51:49 PM »
Beautiful, Alessandro, the green vein on the underside of each petal is lovely looking from the side or top...can you tell us more about this plant?
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Re: Vagaria olivieri
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2009, 02:00:26 AM »
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Vagaria is a small genus that belongs to the Amaryllidaceae, comprises two sp. V. olivieri(Morocco) and V. parviflora(Israel,Syria and Lebanese), similar to Pancratium, but one differs for the crown that encloses the stames, that they are free, while in Pancratium the stames they are attacked the petals
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Re: Vagaria olivieri
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2009, 10:52:00 AM »
Thanks Alessandro for your explanation - looking at plants, after having been a Member of the Forum this year, I feel I can enjoy plants so much more knowing a little about their habitat, growth patterns, background and history  :)  They obviously love the heat from the places in which they grow.

Have just been into Google to find out more about this sweet flower and came across another posting last year from Alberto:

http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2518.0

Pity it doesn't like the alpine cold too!
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Re: Vagaria olivieri
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2009, 02:21:56 PM »
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Many news of this genus is not had, perhaps it knows it to Oron and it could say more. Certainly that this species does not tolerate the freezing, but in the alpine zones there are more favorable conditions of humid plains, also in presence of temperatures many inferiors to the zero
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Re: Vagaria olivieri
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2009, 08:27:30 PM »
Wellit took a while, but finally Vagaria olivieri is flowering here too :-)
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Re: Vagaria olivieri
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2009, 08:57:13 PM »
There are so many plants I'd love to grow here in Dunblane, but the vagaries of the weather prevent much success. ???
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Re: Vagaria olivieri
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2009, 09:05:31 PM »
 ;D ;D
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Re: Vagaria olivieri
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2009, 09:06:51 PM »
Just finished banging my head against the wall. It grew for us in Britain, but flowers more freely here.
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Re: Vagaria olivieri
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2009, 11:11:50 PM »
In my wanderings around Dunblane with Heidi, many of the rhododendrons think it is spring and are flowering again. I don't blame them July and August were like winter. They say the difference between a Scottish summer and a Scottish winter is the temperature of the rain. Don't you believe it! Rain is always bloody cold here!

As an aside, the re-branded Dunblane Hydro Hotel (it's now called "Double tree", which sounds like a Jamaican soft drink! ::)) had a grand opening yesterday. It is usually included in my wanderings, but the sheltered nature of the setting, with Holme Hill on one side and Knockmafuddy Wood on the other,  means that the large rhododendrons (mostly ponticum) aren't affected.
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Re: Vagaria olivieri
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2009, 01:15:37 AM »
Yet another genus I'd never heard of.  Thanks all!
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Re: Vagaria olivieri
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2009, 07:28:16 PM »
Very nice!

Today evening Pancratium parviflorum (Vagaria) started to flower. Because of the dark, I had to use a flashlight to take this picture.
It has beautiful leaves with a white stripe in the middle. The leaves appear after the flowers.
Tomorrow I will take more clear photos in the sunlight.

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Re: Vagaria olivieri
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2009, 08:47:06 PM »
Miriam
lovely, this species is native of Israel and Syria ?
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Re: Vagaria olivieri
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2009, 09:53:46 PM »
Buona sera Alessandro (just came back from a trip in your beautiful country),
It is native to Israel and Lebanon, about Syria- probably but I am not sure. There is also a population in N. Sinai (Egypt).
It grows mainly between rocks in half-shade.
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Re: Vagaria olivieri
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2009, 10:07:14 AM »
A picture from today.
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