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Hans A.

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Re: Oncos 2009 - southern hemisphere
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2009, 08:05:22 AM »
Thor is mentioned as a Regeliocyclus (Intersectional Hybrid between Onco + Regelia) made by C.G. van Tubergen - often mentioned to be a hybrid of  I. korolkowii x I. sari.  a picture here: http://www.litbulbgarden.com/ss/227.html
This Iris normally produces two bluish flowers per flowerstalk while a pure Onco only should produce one.
By the elegant shape of your "Thor" and because it seems your plant has only one flower per stalk I think yours is a pure (and very beautiful) Onco.
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Re: Oncos 2009 - southern hemisphere
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2009, 08:41:16 AM »
Uhm I understand now. I should have looked up the ASI checklist when I received the rhizomes. Just took the name to be gospel. I did not think to question it. Must get back to my source about the name.
Just the dark colour made me think it was OK I guess.
Thanks Hans.
Pat
I will post a photo on the ARILROBIN forum and see if anyone knows it.
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South Australia

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Re: Oncos 2009 - southern hemisphere
« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2009, 10:47:25 AM »
Hello Pat - I wish you good luck in ID your plant, it will not be easy without help of your source. The combination of such a dark flower with dark bracts might help to find it if it is a named cultivar. Even the dark flowering species show this combination rarly.
First idea was it could be a cross of Iris haynei X Iris kirkwoodii/Iris sofarana subsp. kasruwana, but this is only one possibility among others...
Maybe someone else has an idea?
 
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Re: Oncos 2009 - southern hemisphere
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2009, 12:51:23 PM »
Seems that my source of Not Thor has the real Thor - there must have been a mix up of some sort in 2006 when he sent me the rhizome. We are going to do a swap as he doesn't have the Not Thor and I would like the real Thor.
Thanks for your thoughts Hans.
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Re: Oncos 2009 - southern hemisphere
« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2009, 10:23:38 PM »
You`re welcome - could you find out what Not Thor is? A really nice one...
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Re: Oncos 2009 - southern hemisphere
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2009, 11:42:22 PM »
Just over half way in the flowering of the arils.
PT0201 Iris susiana x sib
PT0157 Iris hermona hyb x I. samariae hyb.
PT9847 (Turkish Pendant x Close Contact) x Whither Thou Goest

Assorted good hybrids ex Tirat Tsvi (David Shahak) in 1990/92
Various choice hybrids ex Tirat Tsvi (David Shahak) in 1996
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Re: Oncos 2009 - southern hemisphere
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2009, 11:49:10 PM »
Forgot to say that I was able to take photos due to stillness and sunshine for once. A few crosses have been able to be attempted.
I have been trying a little harder with the photos to get them straight on as a friend is playing with the some of my photos to use in screen printing -removing background etc.

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Re: Oncos 2009 - southern hemisphere
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2009, 09:06:43 AM »
Another WOW!  Pat, the seedling from Wither Thou Goest looks to be a nice break into veined ABs.  Hope you register it.

Thanks for sharing these.  With the failing Sun of Autumn, they bring a bit of Spring light into the season.
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Re: Oncos 2009 - southern hemisphere
« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2009, 11:22:09 AM »
Thanks Jamie.
Anticipation of blooms to come.....
Iris kirkwoodii ex BIS ex MB France
Iris paradoxa coll. USSR ex Alan McMurtrie seed - first flowering. There are smaller leaves under the front of these larger ones so I will be very interested to see what this clump produces.
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Re: Oncos 2009 - southern hemisphere
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2009, 12:17:29 AM »
Pat, I don't like very much hybrids, but your last pic is .....
Your plants looks so healthy !!!
Thank's for sharing, and congratulations !!!
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Re: Oncos 2009 - southern hemisphere
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2009, 09:50:52 AM »
Pat,

Breathtaking irises!!  Wow!  All beautiful, but I just adore the shading of Asstgood (second last pic in your last 5 flower pics).  Amazing plants.  Did Marcus H's 'Thor' come from you (and therefore is "not Thor"?  I got one from him this year, which is why I am asking.  Yours is gorgeous!!
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Re: Oncos 2009 - southern hemisphere
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2009, 11:48:03 AM »
Paul I got my Not Thor from Marcus H. But he does not know it. He does have the real Thor so we are going to swap this year.
I have quite a few with slight variation in the Assorted Good Hybrid irises that you like.

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« Last Edit: September 28, 2009, 12:45:04 PM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Oncos 2009 - southern hemisphere
« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2009, 04:46:54 PM »
STUNNING !!!! Pat  :)
they looks like species  ;D
really fantastic flowers.
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Re: Oncos 2009 - southern hemisphere
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2009, 08:56:22 PM »
Great plants, Pat!
Hope you show us also a picture of the both species in flower. The clump of I. paradoxa looks really huge
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Re: Oncos 2009 - southern hemisphere
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2009, 09:56:12 PM »
Thanks Pat.

Middle one of those 3 is stunning.  Love the veining in the standards and the great colour in the falls.  Beautiful!!
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