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Author Topic: Is there a yellow form of Lilium tigrinum?  (Read 1975 times)

Rodger Whitlock

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Is there a yellow form of Lilium tigrinum?
« on: July 13, 2009, 11:35:30 PM »
I have a lily flowering with no label in the pot and it *looks* like it might be a yellow Lilium tigrinum. I have a faint memory of having bought such a thing some years ago.

PS: Google led me to a posting by Jim McKenney from 2004 in which he addressed this very question — from me.

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« Last Edit: July 14, 2009, 12:04:05 AM by Rodger Whitlock »
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Re: Is there a yellow form of Lilium tigrinum?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2009, 11:39:46 PM »
Rodger,

Yes there is.  Lilium lancifollium flaviflorum if memory serves me correctly.
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Re: Is there a yellow form of Lilium tigrinum?
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2009, 08:02:56 AM »
Perhaps not nesessary but someon could be interested in what it looks like.
These pictures are scans from slides from the mid-seventies.
The voles eradicated all these. I have recently raised new ones from seed. They come true from seed but have also the typical black bulbils.
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Re: Is there a yellow form of Lilium tigrinum?
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2009, 10:50:29 PM »
I think that yellow is much nicer than the old, original orange. :)
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Re: Is there a yellow form of Lilium tigrinum?
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2009, 07:26:20 AM »
I have some plants from AGS seed of this form about 3 years ago - will they be yellow though?
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Re: Is there a yellow form of Lilium tigrinum?
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2009, 09:26:23 AM »
I have some plants from AGS seed of this form about 3 years ago - will they be yellow though?
Very likely. I have got 100% true from seed two times
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Re: Is there a yellow form of Lilium tigrinum?
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2009, 09:28:07 AM »
I think that yellow is much nicer than the old, original orange. :)
Yes it is. There are better oranges like tsingtauense but they are over when lancifolium is in flower so I am happy when I can have both.
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Re: Is there a yellow form of Lilium tigrinum?
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2009, 01:49:02 PM »
This is our Lilium lancifolium flaviflorum. Only one stem yet but maybe, one day, there will be a display like Gote's.
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Re: Is there a yellow form of Lilium tigrinum?
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2009, 07:17:04 PM »
This is our Lilium lancifolium flaviflorum. Only one stem yet but maybe, one day, there will be a display like Gote's.
In a couple of years you will have it. It is not fussy at all. Just grow it as the normal lancifolium. The bulbils will give you a quick increase.
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Re: Is there a yellow form of Lilium tigrinum?
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2009, 08:30:17 AM »
I hadn't noticed that my plant was going to flower; I think I was distracted as I found my first ever lily beetle on it (lucky me!) and I was inspecting the leaves every day for larvae. I thought it was from seed, but isn't flowering from seed in 2 years a bit fast. Now, I wonder if I received bulbils (It was from AGS and they have a section of bulbs and bulbils).
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Re: Is there a yellow form of Lilium tigrinum?
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2009, 12:31:57 PM »
It is indeed fast. Even from a bulbil, this is fast considering the number of flowers you have got. Some lilies flower year 2 but rarely with more than one bud. I think it took me three seasons from seed to get the first flower.
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Re: Is there a yellow form of Lilium tigrinum?
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2009, 11:35:07 PM »
Let's take another look at this question. I think the answers we have gotten so far are answers which have a built-in confusion of nomenclature and systematics.

When I said tiger lily in my original question, I meant the triploid tiger lilies of our gardens. I did not mean the diploid plants which have been making the rounds.

As far as I know, there has never been a yellow-flowered tiger lily which corresponds to the old triploid tiger lilies of gardens.

If such a thing exists, I would very much like to have a bulbil to get started with it.

Over the years I have received several plants purporting to be yellow tiger lilies. They are not. I don't know what they are, but they bloom earlier than the triploid tiger lilies.
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Re: Is there a yellow form of Lilium tigrinum?
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2009, 01:31:24 PM »
Another case when the scientific name is better.
I think that it would be very unlikely that we will find a yellow triploid L lancifolium.
The reason for the triploidy seems unknown.
The sheer numbers of triploids is probably the result of that it has been grown for food a very long time.
Tripling seems to me unlikely to occur spontaneously very often. The same goes for the sporting to yellow.
The odds against a combination and that that combination is spotted, saved and grown must be enormous.
Considering the risk of L lancifolium being a "silent carrier" of virus, I would like to lay my hands on seed of the diploid form.
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