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Which bulb is this?
« on: March 27, 2009, 10:30:11 AM »
Could anyone tell me what's the name of this small bulb?
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Re: Which bulb is this?
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2009, 11:44:36 PM »
it looks like Scilla bythinica
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Re: Which bulb is this?
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2009, 07:09:49 AM »
Hi Tony,

it could be Scilla bythinica but the person I got it from was quite sure it isn't a Scilla but it's in the same family. I really have no clue...
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Re: Which bulb is this?
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2009, 08:19:20 AM »
I don't grow that species, but I would certainly have thought it was a Scilla.  Then again there are a couple of things that used to be in other genus that are now becoming Scillas as well aren't there?  Maybe they knew it under an old name and it is now a Scilla?
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Re: Which bulb is this?
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2009, 10:41:30 AM »
Yes,

the first time I saw it I thought it was a Scilla too but I don't know enough about that genus to be sure. I'll plant it out with a label: "Scilla????;)
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Re: Which bulb is this?
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2009, 12:06:37 PM »
I would like to tag on to this query.

Can anyone ID these two bulbs that are flowering now?
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Re: Which bulb is this?
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2009, 08:08:28 PM »
I would like to tag on to this query.

Can anyone ID these two bulbs that are flowering now?


Mark,
wondered if the first could be Hyacinthoides italica, if so it would have two bracts per flower. I think from the picture that there is only one bract, but it might be worth looking into.

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Re: Which bulb is this?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2009, 10:30:12 PM »
Mark,

Could the second one be Muscari armenaicum neglectum?  I think I have the right species name there.  It certainly looks to be a Muscari or something closely related anyway.

Added a bit later : Thought about it some more and corrected my name.  The more I thought about it the more I thought the armenaicum was wrong.  The neglectum might still be incorrect, but it is the name I was "trying" to think of in the first place.  ::)
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Cheers.

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Re: Which bulb is this?
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2009, 06:48:14 AM »
Thanks Paul. I'll look it up later. It's a big plant so I should take measurements later. After many years it hasnt increased from the original two bulbs. It's almost black to the eye
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Re: Which bulb is this?
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2009, 05:28:31 PM »
Hi Mark

I agree with Paul that it is Muscari neglectum.
Regarding the Scilla it looks to me like S. verna also for the fact that it has a single showy bract.
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Re: Which bulb is this?
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2009, 06:01:45 PM »
Thanks Oron.

Can Muscari be chipped like Galanthus and Narcissus?
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Re: Which bulb is this?
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2009, 06:12:31 PM »
Mark, usually i don't take this risk if i have only one or two bulbs.

Often i leave 90% of the bulb out of the soil or lay it on the side,  in most cases it stimulates the mother bulb to produce many new bulblets.

In some species if you just plant it close to the surface it gives the same result.
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Re: Which bulb is this?
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2009, 06:20:38 PM »
thanks
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Re: Which bulb is this?
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2009, 03:32:01 PM »
The person I got this bulb from tells me it is a Ledebouria?
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Re: Which bulb is this?
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2009, 03:53:00 PM »
The person I got this bulb from tells me it is a Ledebouria?
I would think the leaves very much suggest a Scilla rather than any Ledebouria, Wim.
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