Crocus February - 2009

[Gerry Webster]

I'm still thoughtful over my question in the January thread of taxonomic origin of "C. isauvicus "Spring Beauty"" (a form of C. minimus???).
Unfortunately nobody was able yet to give an answer on this illusive name.
It is obvious a new cultivar from Dutch origin but not registered in KAVB.

Under this link there is a picture of it (not a good one compared the one on the label of the package I purchased in a German garden center last autuum)
http://www.brentandbeckysbulbs.com/spring/productview/?sku=13-0167

I also remember that Dix Export had it as a new introduction on the list but I can't access/find it anymore.

Maybe someone can help me on the identification.

Armin - the name "C. isauvicus" does not appear anywhere in Mathew nor in either The RHS Database or the Kew Monocot Checklist. I think someone must have copied a name incorrectly. I agree it looks like C. minimus; an old synonym for this is C. insularis.

[Guff]

I was just posting what I had bought as isauvicus 'Spring Beauty', I agree it's a (form) or is C. minimus.

Question is it the same as C. minimus or a different form. Brent and Becky's has both listed. Are they different forms? And where does the name isauvicus 'Spring Beauty' come about?

http://www.brentandbeckysbulbs.com/spring/genus.php?genusid=14

[art600]

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Armin - the name "C. isauvicus" does not appear anywhere in Mathew nor in either The RHS Database or the Kew Monocot Checklist. I think someone must have copied a name incorrectly. I agree it looks like C. minimus; an old synonym for this is C. insularis.
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Isn't it possible it is simply an 'r' was replaced by a 'v'  - thus it should read isauricus 

[Luc Gilgemyn]

Crocus biflorus tauri opened for me today.

Looks very good David !
I'm expecting the same show - but as they're outside in the garden, I have some more weeks to go I think... 

[Janis Ruksans]

Dec 2007, I bought 100 Spring Beauty for around $12.

Plant on picture 2 is 100% virus!
Janis

[Anthony Darby]

Anthony, that is a stunning photo of your C. biflorus.

No problem Mark.

[Thomas Huber]

Question is it the same as C. minimus or a different form. Brent and Becky's has both listed. Are they different forms? And where does the name isauvicus 'Spring Beauty' come about?

http://www.brentandbeckysbulbs.com/spring/genus.php?genusid=14

Interesting link, Guff - especially the photo of C. tommasinianus Claret, which I posted on this forum
some years ago. Nobody has ever asked me for permission, let's wait for their reply to my e-mail!

[Gerry Webster]

Isn't it possible it is simply an 'r' was replaced by a 'v'  - thus it should read isauricus 

Art - I agree & I suggested this in my post 365 (1st Feb). Although this looks rather like C. minimus I suppose it could be a form of the variable C. biflorus isauricus.

[mark smyth]

Is that photo of 'Claret'?

This is what someone I know grows as 'Claret'

[Thomas Huber]

Although this looks rather like C. minimus I suppose it could be a form of the variable C. biflorus isauricus.

Gerry, I have planted some 'Spring Beauty' bought from Dix last autumn but the corms surely don't look like biflorus.

[Thomas Huber]

Is that photo of 'Claret'?

This is what someone I know grows as 'Claret'

Mark, my photo doesn't show the true colour which is like the plants on your photo.
But my plants have pointed tipps, while yours are more rounded 

[mark smyth]

I tried to beg some corms but the answer was no.

[Maggi Young]

Guff, it is sometimes the case that a mistake, once made, is perpetuated  by others and often for a long time...... I think this is the case with the "isauvicus"     I noticed from an image search for that name that all the images that came up were the same, and also quoted the same text as Brent and Becky's Bulbs, evenwhe purpoting to be another supplier, so it seems that the image and text are just being copied together, leading to a further confusion.
 Take the case of Erythronium 'White Beauty', this is a form of E. californicum but for years it has been called  E. revolutum 'White Beauty' after one nurseryman wrote that, during a "senior moment", in his catalogue and the mistake stuck with the plant for many years!

[Maggi Young]

Thomas, yes, I recognise your plants..... and your house wall!!

[Thomas Huber]

I tried to beg some corms but the answer was no.

Let's wait until summer and I will have a look if I can spare some small bulbils for you - if you want!?
I found this photo which shows the colour better than the stolen one: