Galanthus for ID

[steve owen]

Hi All

after my disappointing 'Hyde Lodge' at the end of last year (written about in the autumn thread)  - I now find another impostor from the same place.   

The order arrived in excellent condition on March 4th 2008 with the label 'G. Fieldgate Superb'.  Today I have had the chance to go into the garden during day light hours and find this:

It is a nice looking thing and I am quite happy for it to be in my garden - but, unless I am pretty much mistaken, it is not £25 worth of 'Fieldgate Superb'! 

Any one care to hazzard a guess as to what I have £25 worth of?

Cheers

John

John

I can't think of any drop with the pictured combination of a yellow ovary and limey inner mark. Its like Blonde Inge in reverse. Maybe you should hold on to it!

[KentGardener]

Hi Alan

I have heard the same from another well know Galanthophile.  He has clumps of Deer Slot in his garden and only 20/25% of each clump exhibit that distinctive mark.

Maybe we need another Alan Briggs find?....

Regards

John

[Martin Baxendale]

I have heard the same from another well know Galanthophile.  He has clumps of Deer Slot in his garden and only 20/25% of each clump exhibit that distinctive mark.

Makes you wonder if it should have been named in the first place (or if it was trialed enough to be sure the mark was constant before naming). Mind you, it's not the only one.

[KentGardener]

I have heard the same from another well know Galanthophile.  He has clumps of Deer Slot in his garden and only 20/25% of each clump exhibit that distinctive mark.

Makes you wonder if it should have been named in the first place (or if it was trialed enough to be sure the mark was constant before naming). Mind you, it's not the only one.

But when that mark is there - it is perfect.   

Just a shame it isn't there more often.  That is the reason I am not on any waiting lists for 'Deer Slot' (or 'Clovis'- if it did it all the time it would be wonderful - but once in a blue moon ).

Cheers

John

[Diane Clement]

A leaf for ID, well confirmation - is this virused?

its a seedling of G reginae olgae vernalis.  Also is this variety normally bright green, not glaucous?
Sorry, the pics are not good

[Jo]

I wouldn't like to guess Diane, I find that leaves in the garden can have marks like that if they've had mulch dumped on them as they are coming through. ( Who would be so irreligious  )

Some more of the snowdrops for ident from a garden I visited today, please

Firstly an Arnott lookalike. It is athird again bigger in all respects, can have 2 scapes, is also scented, has a slightly different inner mark.

Secondly an elwesii, does it look like any named ones or is it just the sp.

[mark smyth]

single marked Galanthus are mind boggling especially when tall so while I watching Dragon's Den - I'm out. I dont know about the elwesii either, sorry.

[Alan_b]

I think that is the way of the world Alan, as Steve rightly says anything better would be Coin Slot

It may be the way of the world, but is has knocked any desire I might have had to own Deer Slot on the head.

[Maggi Young]

I really must say, "I told you so!"  That is exactly my point about these multitudinously named 'drops.... half are indistinct and the other half are inconsistant.......wake up and smell the crocus, Folks! 

[Alan_b]

Secondly an elwesii, does it look like any named ones or is it just the sp.

It looks like one of the "funny face" forms with two eyes and a downturned mouth.  There is a named cultivar called "Grumpy" like this but many more unnamed ones.  In fact I saw one today in a verge where the eyes and the top of the mouth were peaking out from between the elongated closed outer petals, which I thought should be named "Shy Boy"; but it was just a snowdrop growing in a verge.  Unfortunately I did not have my camera so cannot show you a picture.

[Alan_b]

A leaf for ID, well confirmation - is this virused?

its a seedling of G reginae olgae vernalis.  Also is this variety normally bright green, not glaucous?
Sorry, the pics are not good

It perhaps looks a bit miserable but with the weather we have been having, who wouldn't be?  Seedlings are very frequently bright green but become glaucous in subsequent years.

[Hagen Engelmann]

Oh Maggi, this is the false topic. Wake up and smell the few best galanthus.

[Maggi Young]

Impossible, Hagen.... look at Ian's new Bulb Log.... only snowdrops are deep in the snow!!

http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2009Feb111234361398Bulb_log_06.pdf

[Hagen Engelmann]

hm.hm.hm

[gote]

I realise that an ID might be next to impossible unless we have a provenience. Nevertheless.....
We bought a bag of mixed Galanthus in the sixtes and planted them in our forest. Most of them failed but two kinds survived. They seem by the way to prefer forest that is not too dense.
One of them is the following. (Woronowii???)
Any ideas??
Göte