Scilla 2009

[biodiversite]

the first one in my garden : Scilla aristides too :

[Hans A.]

Bio wonderful view!

Mind the label, I hope you find it when it has seeds on...

It is labeled again.

Onion because of its origin I would prefer to grow it in a glasshouse (possibly bulbframe) in Germany.

[Joakim B]

Here is one from the botanical garden in Ajuda Lisbon.
Scilla peruviana
It was not fully open but nice anyway.
Kind regards
Joakim

[Jim McKenney]

Here is Scilla greilhuberi now in bloom in my protected cold frame.

[ChrisB]

That's really nice, Jim.  I have a bulb of this but it has yet to flower for me.  Must be patient.

[Alessandro.marinello]

Scilla bifolia 08-03-09 Colli Euganei Padova Italy

[SueG]

Has anyone any knowledge of Scilla krousii? I can find the name in a catalogue but no more information than that.
thanks
Sue

[Ezeiza]

Scilla kraussii?

[ChrisB]

Hi Sue,

I saw one web site that mentioned it might be synonymous with Scilla natalensis, a plant I have, grown from seed, in a pot.  If yours and mine both flower, maybe we can do some comparison to see if this allegation is correct.  I could only find S. natalensis in the Elsa Pooley book.

[Ezeiza]

You will see a lot more info under its current name, Merwilla natalensis. Scilla kraussii is supposed to be another South African species.

[Maggi Young]

Sue, this may be of help....... http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/pbs/2004-October/019726.html


 more help, I imagine, than this.......
"The bulbs of Merwilla natalensis have yielded two known homoisoflavanones, the known spirocyclic homoisoflavanone, scillascillin, four known nortriterpenoids, and the new nortriterpenoid, (22R,23S)-17α,23-epoxy-22,29-dihydroxy-27-nor-lanost-8-en-3,24-dione (1), bisnortriterpenoid, (22R,23S)-17α,23-epoxy-3β,22,24ξ-trihydroxy-27,28-bisnor-lanost-8-ene (2), and trisnortriterpenoid, (23S)-17α,23-epoxy-3β,24ξ-dihydroxy-27,28,29-trisnor-lanost-8-ene (3). The structures of 1−3 were determined by spectroscopic methods. "

[ChrisB]

My 2007/8 Plantfinder signposts me from Scilla natalensis to Merwilla plumbea.  Have they got it wrong Ezieza? 

Maggi - what a bewildering statement that is.  To think that someone sits in an office composing a sentence like that!  Beggar's belief!

[Ezeiza]

Maggie, that is evident when seeing an image of the plant!

[Sinchets]

Silverhill Seeds say Scilla krausii has been lumped in with Scilla natalensis and they are now both Merwilla natalensis. It's good that they are no longer in Scilla, but I get the feeling the lumping into one species isn't appreciated.

[SueG]

OK, so to sumarise, Scilla krousii is now subsumed of Merwilla natalensis - which I already grow, but may be worth obtaining as not everyone is convinced that lumping them together is correct.  That's helpful - I'd not picked up on the link with natalensis. The company I've been looking at list it separately and talk about it being a miniature - might be worth the investment just to see what turns up I think! Thanks everyone for helping to sort that out, much appreciated.

Sue, this may be of help....... http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/pbs/2004-October/019726.html


 more help, I imagine, than this.......
"The bulbs of Merwilla natalensis have yielded two known homoisoflavanones, the known spirocyclic homoisoflavanone, scillascillin, four known nortriterpenoids, and the new nortriterpenoid, (22R,23S)-17α,23-epoxy-22,29-dihydroxy-27-nor-lanost-8-en-3,24-dione (1), bisnortriterpenoid, (22R,23S)-17α,23-epoxy-3β,22,24ξ-trihydroxy-27,28-bisnor-lanost-8-ene (2), and trisnortriterpenoid, (23S)-17α,23-epoxy-3β,24ξ-dihydroxy-27,28,29-trisnor-lanost-8-ene (3). The structures of 1−3 were determined by spectroscopic methods. "

Oh I don't know Maggie, as a cure for insommnia I bet it is brilliant

This was on the Pacific Bulb Society pages http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/pbs/2003-December/016258.html More understandable than the above certainly!

Thanks again
Sue