Reticulate Iris 2009

[Joakim B]

Nice David well done
Any chance to see both plants in one shot? To see the colour differences better. Both looks great even if they sometime not live up to our high expectations who but has not sometime failed to live up the expectations.

All the best
Joakim

[ChrisB]

David - my I. r. 'George' was in bud, so I took it to draw and paint to our art group last Thursday, thought I'd do a couple of buds then wait for it to open to do some flowers too.  I didn't have to wait long, the flowers opened before our very eyes, it wowed the art group, they were mesmerised by it.  My George is a deep plum colour, nothing like the colour in the photo you posted.  Here it is for comparison.  Mine was purchased from Bob Potterton at the iris day held by the AGS.

[udo]

David,

your second Iris is never bakeriana, it is possibly I.histrioides or a cultivar from I.reticulata.

[Lvandelft]

Here's a couple that have spent the night in an un-heated bedroom (not ours!) to persuade them to open.

Iris reticulata 'Palm Spring' from Paul Christian's catalogue last year. In the catalogue he says "A new hybrid bred from Iris reticulata 'George'. Vibrant very rich, blue and deep indigo flowers with deeper falls intensying further around a lovely canary yellow crest with the finest flick of white......" Not a bad description really but my camera enhances the blue rather than indigo. Nice though.

David, Iris Palm Springs is a sport of George and by no means a hybrid.
It is registered as Palm Springs
It occurred about at the same time with two growers.
I saw it here first time with the raiser of George and he told me what happened.
He wanted to give it a name but then it was already registered.
They were shown Monday in Lisse as Palm Spring and we (hm) the Committtee complained
that the name was wrong. So now we know where P.C. has acquired his bulbs.
I showed already pics. in the old Forum in ? 2003 in Flowering now, when I just joined the Forum for the first time.

[David Nicholson]

Thanks for that Luit, later this evening I will search the Old Forum and try to find your post.

So you see Chris all kinds of differences can be shown in a sport.

Dirk, many thanks for confirming my suspicions on my 'alleged' Iris reticulata var. bakeriana. I am pretty certain that Alex also mentioned the same problem with his bulbs from the same supplier but I can't find the post.

[Alex]

David, my Miniature Bulbs "bakeriana" is something else as well - leaves also 4 ribbed. At that price, I suppose you can't complain!

Alex

[Lesley Cox]

Dirk is right, no way bakeriana. 'George' should be called I. histrioides (not reticulata) 'George' as the seed parent was histrioides ('Major' I think).

I'm interested in this "sport" thing with I. reticulata forms. How does this happen from a bulb? Is it a case of one of the offset babies coming up and flowering as a diferent colour? Otherwise, how?

[David Nicholson]

David, my Miniature Bulbs "bakeriana" is something else as well - leaves also 4 ribbed. At that price, I suppose you can't complain!

Alex

Yes Alex, so are mine. Did you make MB aware?

[ChrisB]

You are quite right, Lesley, my bulbs are labelled I. h. 'George', mea culpa.  But is the colour correct for the one I've shown?  I realise that sports can bring forth new shades etc, but mine is a real red wine colour and having seen David's its very very different.

[David Nicholson]

Luit, is this the post you meant? February 10 2004.

Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 6:16 pm:       

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Last year one of my first messages to the Forum was about a picture of Iris George by Sandy.
I was able to acquire some bulbs of the blue sport of Iris George. Iris Palm Springs now
started flowering in the glasshouse (outside the flowers become bigger)
 
I am afraid I have to remove one bulb out of the pot because it is sporting back to George


Later edit. I did a copy and paste on the above, including the pics that Luit posted but the pics didn't come out. Sorry!
 

[Lesley Cox]

Yours is absolutely right for 'George' Chris. Rich plummy colour and very like histrioides in shape and size, with leaves just above the pot/ground surface at flowering.

[Maggi Young]

http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/283/1503.html    will take you to Luit's pix!

Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 6:16 pm: as David quoted.       

[Maggi Young]

I think Luit's first mention  of the plant was in 2003, here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/283/443.html

Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 6:58 pm:  pix there too

[tonyg]

Last year MB sent out something different as Iris bakeriana.  It looked a lot closer to the real thing!
This is last years pic but they're just opening now and have increased nicely.

[David Nicholson]

.... and eight ribbed leaves too Tony? I had some from MB last year and lost them-such is life.

Maggi thanks for posting the Links to Luit's posts. How did you do that??