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Re: Reticulate Iris 2009
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2009, 09:14:34 PM »
Having just reviewed the old forum to look at Kuh-e Abr, I can see that this is not my Iris - the falls are blue, whereas mine are plum?

Arthur, yours is nothing like Kuh-e-Abr, which has sort of sky blue petals of quite a different shape

 
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Re: Reticulate Iris 2009
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2009, 09:18:51 PM »
Looks like bakeriana. Mine will be out soon for comparison.
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Re: Reticulate Iris 2009
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2009, 09:23:05 PM »
Looks like bakeriana. Mine will be out soon for comparison.

Does your bakeriana have a round stem or the more typical reticulate 4 sided stem?  Mine is not round.
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Re: Reticulate Iris 2009
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2009, 09:54:54 PM »
Arthur maybe this is of help. Looking at the old Forum I found this picture
of Andrew:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/139/24790.html

Here is a picture of I. bakeriana cultivated in Holland.

It would be easier if these pages are under the same line as the other I. reticulata.
When I came back after searching around in my pictures I could not find the site under Iris, but found it under Bulbs General. ????
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Re: Reticulate Iris 2009
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2009, 10:03:28 PM »
I don't think it's remotely connected to I. bakeriana. To me is says a wild, collected form of reticulata. Perhaps Janis - when he's finished his glass of wine - is the person most likely to identify correctly, or just call it a most attractive form of I. reticulata. The leaves being taller than the flowers at bloom time suggests this too.
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Re: Reticulate Iris 2009
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2009, 10:23:10 PM »
The flowers in Arthur's picture are much paler that I. bakeriana and Arthur states that it is not a garden variety. Arthur, you do a lot of travelling, is this some seed that you have collected yourself in the wild? Whatever, you could just name it 'I. desirable'!

« Last Edit: January 01, 2009, 11:08:21 PM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Reticulate Iris 2009
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2009, 10:28:25 PM »
I think it is almost entirely unlike 'Clairette'!!    ;D ;D ;D
OK OK I take it back .... although I read somewhere that Clairette may have I bakeriana genes in it.  There are some very different pictures on the web purporting to be Clairette!

Here (trying to help :-\) is a pic of Iris bakeriana as supplied by Miniature Bulbs  ... it does look quite like a plant I grew under the name 'Clairette' a long time ago - honest! 

Art - your plant looks like a wild form of I reticulata that I saw at Brian Mathews on a CG visit, again a while ago, so long that I dont have a digital pic to share, only a slide.

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Re: Reticulate Iris 2009
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2009, 10:42:42 PM »
Here is a picture of Iris ret. Clairette in the Connoisseur Collection, which should be the right one.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2009, 11:09:16 PM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Reticulate Iris 2009
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2009, 11:00:33 PM »
'Clairette' is bakeriana x reticulata (in that order, I think, not VV). It is bluer that Tony's pic but not so blue as in Luit's. In between.
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Re: Reticulate Iris 2009
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2009, 11:10:56 PM »
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It would be easier if these pages are under the same line as the other I. reticulata.
When I came back after searching around in my pictures I could not find the site under Iris, but found it under Bulbs General. ?

So it would, Luit..... I hadn't noticed which section it was in.... I will move it now.
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Re: Reticulate Iris 2009
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2009, 11:21:31 PM »
Thank you Maggi.
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Re: Reticulate Iris 2009
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2009, 11:38:03 PM »
Diane

Where did you acquire your Kuh-e Abr?  It looks a good doer and I would like some in my front scree, where others flourish.
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Re: Reticulate Iris 2009
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2009, 11:48:27 PM »
Diane

Where did you acquire your Kuh-e Abr?  It looks a good doer and I would like some in my front scree, where others flourish.
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Re: Reticulate Iris 2009
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2009, 08:54:42 AM »
Hello,

art600, your Iris reminds me strongly of a reticulata-iris, that was previously shown by Dirk Schnabel (alias udo) in another Reticulata-thread here in the forum: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1194.210
I also think that it is the same species (or variety or whatsoever) as previously shown by Alan McMurtrie on his website under name Iris "Ameona" from Iran (see http://www.reticulatas.com/HTML%20Pages/species-2.html). Moreover Janis Ruksans shows a very similar looking Reticulata Iris in his Book "Buried Treasures" on plate 271, stating that it was found by Arnis Seisums in Iran.
Where does your Iris come from? I would not be surprised, if it came from Iran (Northwestern Iran, to be precisely: somewhere in the Zagros Mountains)
Since I am also interested in this fantastic looking gem, is there a chance to get seeds from you?

Kind Regards
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BTW: Janis Ruksans calls it "Iris reticulata var. kurdica"
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Re: Reticulate Iris 2009
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2009, 09:41:42 AM »
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I also think that it is the same species (or variety or whatsoever) as previously shown by Alan McMurtrie on his website under name Iris "Ameona" from Iran
Erwin, I did see this picture too, but the falls(?) are much darker as in Arthur's picture.
The picture in the book looks more the same, but in Arthur's picture there is more blue in the falls.
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