We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Crocus medius non virus to spare/swap  (Read 2773 times)

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Crocus medius non virus to spare/swap
« on: September 04, 2008, 08:28:51 PM »
I've been busy tonight repotting Crocus and Narcissus.

My pot of Crocus medius ex Oliver Wyatt, not virused and obtained in 2004 from the East Anglia bulb sale,  has done very well. I can spare some pea sized corms.

It may be late but I'd like to swap for other Crocus.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2008, 08:32:44 PM by mark smyth »
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

Luc Gilgemyn

  • VRV President & Channel Hopper
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5528
  • Country: be
Re: Crocus medius non virus to spare/swap
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2008, 09:01:42 PM »
Wonderful looking Clump Mark !
Luc Gilgemyn
Harelbeke - Belgium

David Nicholson

  • Hawkeye
  • Journal Access Group
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13117
  • Country: england
  • Why can't I play like Clapton
Re: Crocus medius non virus to spare/swap
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2008, 09:03:49 PM »
To late for me Mark, all my stuff was re-potted weeks ago. But then I haven't been swanning around the UK :P
David Nicholson
in Devon, UK  Zone 9b
"Victims of satire who are overly defensive, who cry "foul" or just winge to high heaven, might take pause and consider what exactly it is that leaves them so sensitive, when they were happy with satire when they were on the side dishing it out"

Gerry Webster

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2571
  • Country: gb
Re: Crocus medius non virus to spare/swap
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2008, 09:32:53 PM »
Mark - I had the Oliver Wyatt form from Kath Dryden a few years ago and can confirm that it seems to be virus free. I lost this during a period of illness but last year I obtained some plants from  Hythe Alpines which appear to be similar, if not identical.  It's a very vigorous form.
Gerry passed away  at home  on 25th February 2021 - his posts are  left  in the  forum in memory of him.
His was a long life - lived well.

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Crocus medius non virus to spare/swap
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2008, 11:21:10 PM »
Luc from 5 bulbs  bought 4 years ago the clump in the photo last year had just under 30 flowers. I forgot to lift them this summer to give them fresh soil. I might have a little poke around tomorrow
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

Boyed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 691
  • Country: 00
    • Vintage Tulips
Re: Crocus medius non virus to spare/swap
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2008, 05:54:05 AM »
Mark,

Your crocus medius looks wonderful!

Relating viruses;
I always conduct stidies with viruses in different bulbous plants. In USSR different scientific organisations and institutions on the bases of their experiments stated that very small daughter bulbs of many tulips are not susseptable to virus. So if someowne has a rare tulip cultivar, which is virus infected, he/she can grow healthy plants from very small daughter bulbls. My experiments with tulips proved this method to be usedful for many cultivars. And few years ago I began to conduct such experiment on crocuses. It seems that this method works. My observations show that infected crocus and its doughter corms shows the symptoms of virus, but new replacement corms of very small doughter bulbs next year doen't show the symptoms. I haven't finish my experiemnt yet and need to grow those corms to the flowering size to make sure that virus won't appear later. I will let you know about the final results of my test.

So far I can say that this method is effective for many tulip varieties.
Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast
Vanadzor, ARMENIA

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Crocus medius non virus to spare/swap
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2008, 08:18:33 AM »
Happy to read you like the Crocus but does anyone want some? Later this afternoon they will be repotted.
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

Thomas Huber

  • Neustadt Croconut
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1468
Re: Crocus medius non virus to spare/swap
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2008, 08:29:10 AM »
Much too late for me to swap, Mark! Mine are all rooted for weeks now!

Very interesting, Zhirair!! So there is still hope to clean an infected stock of rare plants?
Please keep us in touch with your experiment!!
Thomas Huber, Neustadt - Germany (230m)

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Crocus medius non virus to spare/swap
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2008, 08:40:18 AM »
I should say these corms have no roots
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

Boyed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 691
  • Country: 00
    • Vintage Tulips
Re: Crocus medius non virus to spare/swap
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2008, 09:15:01 AM »
Thomas,

yes there is a hope to clean the infected stock, but I shoul say, that for some crocuses as crocus heuffelianus, this method is not effective. even the smallest daughter bulb of cr. heuffelianus are susceptable to virus. But, for example, for crocus niveus this method is effective.
Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast
Vanadzor, ARMENIA

Thomas Huber

  • Neustadt Croconut
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1468
Re: Crocus medius non virus to spare/swap
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2008, 10:04:40 AM »
Zhirair, it also seems effective for Crocus medius. Some years ago I found one single
flower between virused trade forms, that didn't show any signs of virus. I digged it
up planted separately and so far this plant and it's offsprings look healthy.
Thomas Huber, Neustadt - Germany (230m)

Paul T

  • Our man in Canberra
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8435
  • Country: au
  • Paul T.
Re: Crocus medius non virus to spare/swap
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2008, 12:47:23 PM »
Mark,

That really is a stunning picture of a beautiful crocus.  I just love the bright orange styles glimpsed between the petals on some of the flowers.  Really, really nice picture!!
« Last Edit: September 05, 2008, 10:47:51 PM by tyerman »
Cheers.

Paul T.
Canberra, Australia.
Min winter temp -8 or -9°C. Max summer temp 40°C. Thankfully, maybe once or twice a year only.

dominique

  • River Dweller
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 554
  • Country: 00
  • passionated by bulbs since 1978,
Re: Crocus medius non virus to spare/swap
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2008, 04:01:52 PM »
Mark
OK to swap with you. I send you my bulbills list; if not too late
do

Pontoux France

gote

  • still going down the garden path...
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1594
  • A fact is a fact - even if it is an unusual fact
Re: Crocus medius non virus to spare/swap
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2008, 11:36:23 AM »
This year is too confused for me for any swap but I would be interested.
I have Crocus speciosus that is seeding itself = virus free and very early.
It has been around here for seventy years and since only early types can seed here in mid Sweden this is the result of natural selection.
It is 2-4 weeks earlier than commercially available stock.
This is an advantage where the winter is early.
Next year I hope to have corms available if someone wants to swap.
I also have 'Vanguard' that has been grown in isolation for fifty years and looks healthy to my inexperienced eyes.
Both kinds are in the ground. not in pots.
Have a nice weekend
Göte
Göte Svanholm
Mid-Sweden

 


Scottish Rock Garden Club is a Charity registered with Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR): SC000942
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal