We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Narcissus miniatus and others  (Read 23573 times)

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Narcissus miniatus and others
« Reply #60 on: October 21, 2008, 07:35:10 PM »
yes very nice display, Gerd
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

Luc Gilgemyn

  • VRV President & Channel Hopper
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5528
  • Country: be
Re: Narcissus miniatus and others
« Reply #61 on: October 21, 2008, 09:23:20 PM »
Wonderful display Gerd !!!  :o
Luc Gilgemyn
Harelbeke - Belgium

Lvandelft

  • Spy out IN the cold
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Country: nl
  • Dutch Master
Re: Narcissus miniatus and others
« Reply #62 on: October 21, 2008, 10:14:53 PM »
Gratulations Gerd!
It seems that our discussion in January about giving the bulbs during summer the right
period of temperatures of at least 25º C. is giving good results!
A lot of effort, but very effective!
Luit van Delft, right in the heart of the beautiful flowerbulb district, Noordwijkerhout, Holland.

Sadly Luit died on 14th October 2016 - happily we can still enjoy his posts to the Forum

Hans A.

  • bulb growing paradise
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1470
  • Country: 00
Re: Narcissus miniatus and others
« Reply #63 on: October 21, 2008, 11:14:04 PM »
Great display Gerd! - wonderful to see them all together. :)
Hans - Balearic Islands/Spain
10a  -  140nn

Paul T

  • Our man in Canberra
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8435
  • Country: au
  • Paul T.
Re: Narcissus miniatus and others
« Reply #64 on: October 22, 2008, 11:04:29 AM »
Gerd,

Thank you for your excellent pictures!!  Great stuff!  8)
Cheers.

Paul T.
Canberra, Australia.
Min winter temp -8 or -9°C. Max summer temp 40°C. Thankfully, maybe once or twice a year only.

Anthony Darby

  • Bug Buff & Punster
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9647
  • Country: nz
Re: Narcissus miniatus and others
« Reply #65 on: October 24, 2008, 09:38:48 AM »
I have two serotinus flowering now. One from Turkey (ex PC) has a corona bright orange and like a 1mm deep cup. The other from goodness knows (silent 'k') where has an almost non-existant greenish corona.
Anthony Darby, Auckland, New Zealand.
"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution"
http://www.dunblanecathedral.org.uk/Choir/The-Choir.html

Brian Duncan

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 34
Re: Narcissus miniatus and others
« Reply #66 on: October 24, 2008, 11:32:51 PM »
Quote
Gerd wrote: I topdressed all pots with brown lava grit. Then they were plunged in black 'Glasasche', an ash which is used for draining. Because of the dark colour of the grit and the ash all warmth during sunny days is collected. Additionally I installed 2 soil heating cables (25 + 30 W), one at the bottom of the pots and another at the upper third of the plunge medium.
So the temperature around the bulbs was kept always above + 25 ° C, sometimes up to 50 ° C.
During spells of colder weather I covered the area with air cushion foil in order to support the effect of the heating cables.
I started 'heating' at June 10th and finished at the end of August.
The bulbs were repotted and a first watering followed. As soon as the first flowers appeared
artificial light was added.
Gerd,
Thanks for details of your methods that have worked so well. I assume the bulbs were dry in the pots during the warm treatment? I fear I may have been too late getting the bulbs into heat - more like Aug. to Oct. rather than your June -Aug.. Also, I was treating 'dry bulbs' in nets in a simple cabinet - easier no doubt but I still have to find if it works. My late treatment may have confused the bulbs!
I enjoyed your pictures - such a comprehensive lot!
Brian
« Last Edit: October 25, 2008, 11:53:33 AM by Maggi Young »

Anthony Darby

  • Bug Buff & Punster
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9647
  • Country: nz
Re: Narcissus miniatus and others
« Reply #67 on: October 26, 2008, 08:15:57 PM »
I finally have pics of both forms of Narcissus serotinus that I have. One, ex PC, from Turkey and one possibly from Zakynthos.
Anthony Darby, Auckland, New Zealand.
"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution"
http://www.dunblanecathedral.org.uk/Choir/The-Choir.html

Hans J

  • Gardener and Gourmet
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4159
  • Country: de
Re: Narcissus miniatus and others
« Reply #68 on: October 26, 2008, 08:39:28 PM »
Anthony ,

I would say the second is a N.miniatus - but I'm not a specialist for this plants ......

« Last Edit: October 26, 2008, 09:55:50 PM by Hans Joschko »
"The bigger the roof damage, the better the view"(Alexandra Potter)

Luc Gilgemyn

  • VRV President & Channel Hopper
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5528
  • Country: be
Re: Narcissus miniatus and others
« Reply #69 on: October 27, 2008, 09:26:31 AM »
Wonderful wee gems Anthony !   :D
Must give them a try myself...
Luc Gilgemyn
Harelbeke - Belgium

Paul T

  • Our man in Canberra
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8435
  • Country: au
  • Paul T.
Re: Narcissus miniatus and others
« Reply #70 on: October 30, 2008, 06:43:14 AM »
Anthony,

Both are very cute.  Nice!!  8)
Cheers.

Paul T.
Canberra, Australia.
Min winter temp -8 or -9°C. Max summer temp 40°C. Thankfully, maybe once or twice a year only.

Oron Peri

  • Middle Eastern Correspondent for the Forum
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1500
  • Country: 00
  • Living in the Galilee Region, min. temp. 5c max 40
    • Seeds of Peace
Re: Narcissus miniatus and others
« Reply #71 on: October 30, 2008, 11:13:28 AM »
I finally have pics of both forms of Narcissus serotinus that I have. One, ex PC, from Turkey and one possibly from Zakynthos.

Anthony,
Your Narcissus from Zakynthos is very interesting, first as you have mentioned it lacks the Orange corona, second the flower seem like it comes 90degrees to the stalk with dark green colored and third i see that leaves are already mature, which is also not common at time of bloom.
Was it raised from seed and does it set seeds?
I find it just beautiful :o
Is there any chance of virdiflorus blood in it?

« Last Edit: October 30, 2008, 11:31:38 AM by Oron Peri »
Tivon, in the lower Galilee, north Israel.
200m.

Anthony Darby

  • Bug Buff & Punster
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9647
  • Country: nz
Re: Narcissus miniatus and others
« Reply #72 on: October 31, 2008, 09:31:20 AM »
Anthony,
Your Narcissus from Zakynthos is very interesting, first as you have mentioned it lacks the Orange corona, second the flower seem like it comes 90degrees to the stalk with dark green colored and third i see that leaves are already mature, which is also not common at time of bloom.
Was it raised from seed and does it set seeds?
I find it just beautiful :o
Is there any chance of virdiflorus blood in it?


Oron, I will pollinate it. An earlier flower in the pot has a seedhead. I must admit these bulbs were not seed grown so to my knowledge have no viridiflorus blood in them.
Anthony Darby, Auckland, New Zealand.
"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution"
http://www.dunblanecathedral.org.uk/Choir/The-Choir.html

Gerdk

  • grower of sweet violets
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2928
Re: Narcissus miniatus and others
« Reply #73 on: November 11, 2008, 02:08:47 PM »
This is part one of the last batch of my autumn flowering daffodils

1. N. miniatus with 8 petals
2. + 3. N. miniatus with an orange shade
4. The same species in 2007
5. + 6. N. serotinus - exceptionally large form
7. - 9. N. x alleniae (miniatus x viridiflorus)
pics of a form which is nearer to the miniatus parent
Gerd
Gerd Knoche, Solingen
Germany

Gerdk

  • grower of sweet violets
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2928
Re: Narcissus miniatus and others
« Reply #74 on: November 11, 2008, 02:15:38 PM »
Second part

1. - 3. Narcissus x alleniae in a form close to viridiflorus
4. + 5. N. viridiflorus photographed in Spain
6. - 8. N. viridiflorus in cultivation

Gerd
Gerd Knoche, Solingen
Germany

 


Scottish Rock Garden Club is a Charity registered with Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR): SC000942
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal