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Hans J

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Narcissus miniatus and others
« on: September 27, 2008, 02:21:33 PM »
Hi all ,

here a pic of my
 
Narcissus miniatus

there is some confusion with N. serotinus ....but a friend ( a nice forumnist ) has confirmed me that this is the rigth N.miniatus ....
« Last Edit: October 09, 2008, 09:25:09 AM by Hans Joschko »
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Re: Narcissus miniatus
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2008, 02:40:55 PM »
Beautiful Hans - just beautiful !! How high are they ??
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Re: Narcissus miniatus
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2008, 02:47:44 PM »
Luc :

they are 20 cm high

for Paul Tyerman :
Paul thats the motherplants from which I have sent you before some years seeds ....in this time I have believed it is N.seotinus ....please excuse !!!
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Re: Narcissus miniatus
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2008, 10:31:22 PM »
Really a wee beauties, Hans :o 8)

Where is the natural distribution of this species?
Is it winter hardy?
Best wishes
Armin

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Re: Narcissus miniatus
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2008, 10:36:54 PM »
Armin ,

sorry but I dont know exactly which distribution this species has ....maybe a other forumist know more ::)

I have this pot since many years in my bulb frame ( without any heating ) ....from April - September dry ...and watering in wintermonth ...
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Re: Narcissus miniatus
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2008, 10:29:17 AM »
Really a wee beauties, Hans :o 8)
Where is the natural distribution of this species?
Is it winter hardy?

Armin,
Narcissus miniatus - segregated from serotinus recently comes from Southern Spain, the Balearic Islands and Crete. Because of its southern distribution (and always at lower elevations there) it isn't hardy in the north.

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Re: Narcissus miniatus
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2008, 07:09:59 PM »
Is this the same N. "serotinus" I saw many years ago on Cyprus en masse at Akamas?
I thought it was N. serotinus but never flowered with me. It grows in habitat about 15 cm in flower.
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Re: Narcissus miniatus
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2008, 07:20:41 PM »
Is this the same N. "serotinus" I saw many years ago on Cyprus en masse at Akamas?
I thought it was N. serotinus but never flowered with me. It grows in habitat about 15 cm in flower.

Luit,
I am not sure if there was serotinus or miniatus - hopefully some plants resulted from seeds collected on Cyprus will flower here soon. I'll send some pics then.

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Re: Narcissus miniatus
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2008, 09:45:38 PM »
Thanks Gerd and Hans.
Now picture is a bit clearer for me.
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Re: Narcissus miniatus
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2008, 12:02:41 PM »
Hans,

Thanks for he PM re this.  Great to have the correct name, although seeing your pic just makes me even more impatient in the waiting for it to flower (which I realise will take a few years!  ::)).  Seedlings are doing well here so far, so fingers crossed.

Thanks again.
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Min winter temp -8 or -9°C. Max summer temp 40°C. Thankfully, maybe once or twice a year only.

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Re: Narcissus miniatus
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2008, 12:30:44 PM »
Paul ,

Yes -I know that it is interesting for you  ;)
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2008, 01:32:05 PM »
What a beatiful plant. :o
Congratulations for growing it.
How much time it took to bloom ?
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Re: Narcissus miniatus
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2008, 11:39:28 PM »
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Where is the natural distribution of this species?
Is it winter hardy?
Gerd,
Both N. serotinus and N. miniatus will grow in unheated greenhouse in N. Ireland but both are very difficult to flower. 'miniatus' means orange and the picture shown clearly displays this characteristic, also the multi-florets per stem. The true N. serotinus can be found in thousands on a mound in the village of Castro Marim almost on the southern border between Spain and Portugal. It is shorter, smaller, mostly single flowered, the minute cup is yellowish and the flower in this population is a 'star gazer'. N. miniatus can be found on many roadsides around and South of Seville - indeed I have seen roadside verges with seemingly thousands of plants sprayed out with paraquat. 
Sorry my pictures of this sad sight and the two species are on slides and I cannot add to this posting.
Brian

Armin,
Narcissus miniatus - segregated from serotinus recently comes from Southern Spain, the Balearic Islands and Crete. Because of its southern distribution (and always at lower elevations there) it isn't hardy in the north.

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Re: Narcissus miniatus
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2008, 11:45:04 PM »
Hans that is lovely. It is a species I have only recently heard of and one I will be looking for.
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Re: Narcissus miniatus
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2008, 06:59:21 AM »
Brian,
Your observations concerning the distribution and  threat of Nn. miniatus/serotinus are in accord with mines. ' Serotinus ' is found in the more western parts of Southern Spain and adjacent Portugal. Also there are a lot of sites of both which no longer exists - especially the roadsides are ' clean ' now. Instead of daffodils you can find squirting cucumber (Ecballium elaterum), a weed which obviously is able to withstand intensive herbice treatments. Other places were destroyed by roadbuilding and urbanisation.
Concerning hardiness of  ' miniatus ' I meant not hardy in the open garden and under the conditions in my part of Germany. I cultivate my plants also in a greenhouse but using a small fan heater I try to keep temperatures above 0 ° Celsius.
My flowers are somewhat behind those of some others but I hope to be able to show some pics later.

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