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Will the real Narcissus 'Julia Jane' please stand up?
« on: February 08, 2007, 05:32:22 PM »
Readers of the old forum might remember my search for this elusive creature. Bulbs from many different sources had not turned out to be the right thing - see http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/321/23059.html
Last year I bought from 2 more nurseries and HALLELUJA!!! One is the real McCoy. So, the winner is......... :o
« Last Edit: January 06, 2009, 11:32:43 PM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Will the real 'Julia Jane' please stand up?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2007, 05:33:59 PM »
Rannveig Wallis! Well done, Rannveig.  ;D
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Re: Will the real 'Julia Jane' please stand up?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2007, 06:40:27 PM »
Anne, maybe in my advancing years my eyesights going but could you tell me please what the differences are between the two varieties? They must be pretty subtle ???
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Re: Will the real 'Julia Jane' please stand up?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2007, 09:59:10 PM »
It's in the shape of the corona - Julia Jane is supposed to be petunioid ie the 'skirt' opens out flat and even recurves. The dud had a much more conical corona.
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Re: Will the real 'Julia Jane' please stand up?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2007, 10:03:39 PM »
Anne,

They both seem to be exactly the same to me, just two yellow things.

You should try growing some nice flowers for a change.

OK, 'Julia Jane' is very beautiful

Oh, revenge is sweet!

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Re: Will the real 'Julia Jane' please stand up?
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2007, 10:38:03 PM »
Where's my sling. ;) Julia Jane is a cracker.
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Re: Will the real 'Julia Jane' please stand up?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2007, 10:47:44 PM »
I have experienced the same problem with Narcissus hedraeanthus, which you cleared up for me, Anne. That which I photographed last year, from a Cotswold nursery, is a monster imposter compared with the genuine article which you sent me, and has produced two flowering bulbs for me. I will photograph them at the weekend.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2007, 11:08:51 PM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Will the real 'Julia Jane' please stand up?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2007, 11:08:58 PM »
I don't recall that Anne said a single rude word about snowdrops, unlike some others on this Forum. So your revenge comment Paddy, is unwarranted. Besides, what reasonable person couldn't tell the difference between the two above? One is a very nice flower: the other has CLASS!

I'll forgive you David because you and I are radipdly approaching our dotage, failing eyesight and all, but Paddy doesn't have this excuse, being still, the broth of a boy.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2007, 03:49:34 AM by Lesley Cox »
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Re: Will the real 'Julia Jane' please stand up?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2007, 11:28:37 PM »
I believe you are right, Lesley, I don't think Anne has said anything BAD about snowies, though she may be guilty of damning with faint praise !!
I'm pleased Anne has finally met Julia Jane, she is an elusive soul, and no mistake. We have pots full of a lovely flower we actually call 'Not Julia Jane'. Then there's 'Not Joy Bishop'...which we have to keep far from the real JB!
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2007, 03:48:45 AM »
And Viola `Maggie Nott' which one nursery here sells, to distinguish it from the true `Maggie Mott.' I think it should be `Princess Mary' though.
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Re: Will the real 'Julia Jane' please stand up?
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2007, 06:48:26 AM »
Anne,
the imposter is possibly a seedling as I have raised something similar from JJ seed.
I notice in minute typing in Paddy's message the words "OK, Julia Jane is very beautiful" was that meant to be a sneaky confession, Paddy?
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Re: Will the real 'Julia Jane' please stand up?
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2007, 09:34:06 AM »
It's in the shape of the corona - Julia Jane is supposed to be petunioid ie the 'skirt' opens out flat and even recurves. The dud had a much more conical corona.

Ah! I see it now. Thanks Anne. Having said that I think they are both lovely.
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Re: Will the real 'Julia Jane' please stand up?
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2007, 09:40:53 AM »
Touche, Paddy! Here's one I bred specially for you.
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Re: Will the real 'Julia Jane' please stand up?
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2007, 09:41:44 AM »
Glad you have tracked down Julia Jane Anne, it is a beautiful selection from the very variable seed collection JCA 805 introduced many years ago by the legendary Jim Archibald.
We have many hundreds if not thousands of flowers from subsequent generations from the original JCA805 and they still show a wide variation from narrow funnel shaped to wide petunioid coronas. Many cultivars have been selected and named that can trace their origins back to this one superb introduction.
And Paddy surely you noticed the green markings at the base of the tube and on the tips of the petals ;)
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Re: Will the real 'Julia Jane' please stand up?
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2007, 09:45:02 AM »
Now Anne you will start a stampede, a collecting frenzy.

Here is a good petunioid form several generations down from the original JCA805 introduction.
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