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Claire Cockcroft

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An unknown lily -- not what the label said
« on: September 26, 2021, 12:43:15 AM »
The label said Lilium lankongense.  No, it isn't.  Any suggestions?  Thanks!


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Re: An unknown lily -- not what the label said
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2021, 05:23:06 PM »
Lilium lancifolium???
Dave Millward, East Lothian, Scotland

Claire Cockcroft

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Re: An unknown lily -- not what the label said
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2021, 05:45:11 PM »
L. lancifolium has bulbils on the stem, yes?  No sign of that on this plant.
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Re: An unknown lily -- not what the label said
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2021, 06:30:08 PM »
Hi Claire, could it be L. davidii?

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Re: An unknown lily -- not what the label said
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2021, 12:14:00 AM »
You know, Tristan, L. davidii seems right.  I have one from an Oregon nursery in a different bed in the garden.  I'll have to compare the two next summer when they both bloom.

Thanks.
Claire Cockcroft
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Re: An unknown lily -- not what the label said
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2021, 12:32:43 PM »
Hi Claire,
It does look very like Lilium davidii. Especially the foliage. Don't be too concerned if your other bulb isn't identical. There are several different forms of L. davidii & even within each form, if grown from seed, then there may well be some variation.
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Re: An unknown lily -- not what the label said
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2021, 11:24:31 PM »
It looks typical for davidii.  If there were any black dashes on the flower face along with the dots (as L. amablile has), then it is a hybrid.  The inward linear fold of the leaves is a natural tendency for davidii, and not for lancifolium.  Lancifolium leaves are wider, glabrous and shiny, too.  Neils right that davidii can be quite diverse, but you have one of the common forms.  Not my favorite bulb for eating raw, but very good when cooked.
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Re: An unknown lily -- not what the label said
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2021, 08:07:17 AM »
Not my favorite bulb for eating raw, but very good when cooked.

So which is your favourite for eating raw Rick? (I'm enjoying the idea of having enough lilies to harvest them for eating, although so are the lily beetle here!)
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Re: An unknown lily -- not what the label said
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2021, 05:40:59 PM »
Well, they say L. maculatum is one of the best for general eating, by I don't have enough to try them out.  If I can remember off the top of my head, so far I have tried Ll. davidii, amabile, michiganense, martagon, tsingtauense, distichum, lancifolium, leichtlinii, dauricum, and a whole lot of my own hybrids of mostly asiatics and some trumpets.

All the trumpets are terribly bitter, even after cooking, and that awful taste is difficult to get out of your mouth.

All the asiatics I have tried are always good cooked, but have some variability with a soapy taste when raw (but never to the point of being inedible).

It seems everything in the martagon section of lilies are best for raw eating: sweet and crunchy, and no soapy taste at all.  I haven't actually tried medeoloides or hansonii, except in hybrids.
Rick Rodich
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Re: An unknown lily -- not what the label said
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2021, 08:20:20 AM »
Well, they say L. maculatum is one of the best for general eating, by I don't have enough to try them out.  If I can remember off the top of my head, so far I have tried Ll. davidii, amabile, michiganense, martagon, tsingtauense, distichum, lancifolium, leichtlinii, dauricum, and a whole lot of my own hybrids of mostly asiatics and some trumpets.
Apparently this is why the "Ancient Proverb" which says "If you have two loaves of bread, sell one and buy a lily" is not so much a statement of aesthetics as a suggestion of a varying your diet!  ;D
cheers
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