We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Aconitum kirinense  (Read 856 times)

Leena

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2771
  • Country: fi
    • Leena's You Tube Videos
Aconitum kirinense
« on: September 20, 2020, 04:52:37 PM »
I have this plant which I have grown as A.kirinense. What are the main differences between A.kirinense and A.volubile? I have grown this from seeds which I got from a friend who had gotten hers from another and originally the seeds came to Finland from Swedish STA, garden amateurs seed exchange many years ago.

My plant starts to flower about two weeks earlier than my A.volubile, but the flowering may overlap some. Flowering time is the main difference I see, and also A.kirinense is more compact (still tall), but I don't know how much shade/sun matters. The colour of the flowers is similar. Leaves are a bit smaller than A.volubile. Flowering starts here in the lat week of June, while A.volubile starts around mid July.
I have seeds from my A.kirinense, but before I give them to anyone, I would like to get opinions about if my plant is right or not. :)
Leena from south of Finland

Gabriela

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2359
  • Country: ca
  • Never enough Gentiana...
Re: Aconitum kirinense
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2020, 05:16:38 PM »
I am not familiar with A. volubile but even if I would be Leena, Aconitums are very difficult to identify and all characters must be taken into consideration (basal and stem leaves, flowers, fruits, seeds....). This is the reason why so many misidentified species are circulating around. Many are really looking very similar on a superficial look.

I have young plants of A. kirinense grown from wild seeds and I can show basal leaves (they didn't flower yet). But this won't really help much.

My best advice for now is to watch the close-up pictures with A. kirinense on plantarium.ru, which is an excellent repository of plant images taken in the wild.
https://www.plantarium.ru/page/view/item/512.html

Here's a picture with basal leaf from my plant, still in a container I planted full with various Aconitum seedlings last year. If planted in the garden it would have flowered most probably.

« Last Edit: September 22, 2020, 10:57:21 PM by Gabriela »
Gabriela
Ontario, zone 5
http://botanicallyinclined.org/

Leena

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2771
  • Country: fi
    • Leena's You Tube Videos
Re: Aconitum kirinense
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2020, 08:00:03 AM »
Thank you Gabriela, these are so difficult.  :( In my last picture with only leaves, the top leaves are from lower part of the plant but I'm not sure if they are what you call basal leaves.
I think I will enjoy my plant and not offer it's seeds because I can't be sure what it is. :)
Leena from south of Finland

Gabriela

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2359
  • Country: ca
  • Never enough Gentiana...
Re: Aconitum kirinense
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2020, 12:39:54 AM »
The leaves I show are coming from the ground (root), are not growing on a stem (flowering or not).
Your plant looks very much alike, but yes, hard to be sure (there is a detailed description in Flora of China, but not always trusting).

If your fruits and seeds are matching the close-up pictures on plantarium.ru and considering all else, you could share seeds as: Aconitum cf. kirinense (meaning it is very close to the species but based on the data you have are not able at this point to be 100% sure).
Gabriela
Ontario, zone 5
http://botanicallyinclined.org/

 


Scottish Rock Garden Club is a Charity registered with Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR): SC000942
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal