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Re: Narcissus in September 2018
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2018, 07:55:59 PM »
Here's a puzzle. If I sow seeds of some of my N watieri hybrids which are obviously hybrids eg they are yellow, how does what appears to be pure watieri turn up in the F2 and F3 generations?
Just luck I guess!

 Isn't it simply that in the repeated crossing the  white gene  stands a reasonable chance of meeting another one and making white  seedlings?  Must say those in your photo look just like the straight species!
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Re: Narcissus in September 2018
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2018, 12:25:40 AM »
Here's a puzzle. If I sow seeds of some of my N watieri hybrids which are obviously hybrids eg they are yellow, how does what appears to be pure watieri turn up in the F2 and F3 generations?
The minions are switching labels?
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Re: Narcissus in September 2018
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2018, 09:07:38 AM »
Just luck I guess!

 Isn't it simply that in the repeated crossing the  white gene  stands a reasonable chance of meeting another one and making white  seedlings?  Must say those in your photo look just like the straight species!
The ones in the photo are the straight species. In some cases all the seedlings look like watieri.
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Re: Narcissus in September 2018
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2018, 09:07:54 AM »
The minions are switching labels?
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Re: Narcissus in September 2018
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2018, 11:21:49 AM »
The ones in the photo are the straight species. In some cases all the seedlings look like watieri.
Ah right - I guess there's often a clue     ;D
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Re: Narcissus in September 2018
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2018, 12:27:28 PM »
While madly potting all the species today, it's nice to be reminded what is hiding in those tiny bulbs!
.....N triandrus (keeping the same bulbs going is a challenge - keep sowing seeds!)
I got thiis Narcissus triandrus ssp triandrus from Graham Fleming last year and it's still here!
I've already self-pollinated it and used its pollen on a few others ;D
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Re: Narcissus in September 2018
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2018, 03:47:34 PM »
This is a seedling I raised from a hybrid called 'Romsey' 2YP (which was raised by a friend, Doug Bryce, who sadly died a few years ago) in 2004.
I no longer have the seed parent  and have no idea what the pollen parent was.
Initially flowered in 2014 and I recorded it as a 2WP but I now think it might be a jonquilla hybrid and so it should be a 7WP
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Re: Narcissus in September 2018
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2018, 04:01:26 AM »
Here in the Southern Hemisphere the cavalcade of daffs continue:
'Dovekie'
'Ruddy Nosey'
KB 10WY - probably the largest bulbocodium we've got!
The real 'Charity May'!
The unlabelled jonquil received with 'Charity May' is doing well!
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Re: Narcissus in September 2018
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2018, 07:40:16 AM »
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The 7W-YP is Jocelyn Newman.

The bulbocodium should have a longer number. We entered a 70mm bulbocodium that is to be called Dazzling Monty in the Canberra Show.

I must have been feeling really kindly to have supplied you with such a good NTT!! ;D


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Re: Narcissus in September 2018
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2018, 10:07:31 AM »
The 7W-YP is Jocelyn Newman.
I would've thought so, but it's twice the height! Could it just be due to different growing conditions?
The bulbocodium should have a longer number.
The bulbocodium is only labelled "KB10WY"because it came labelled as an 8WO! (see the thread from 2017).
I wonder if it's one of the ones you'd selected  for naming?
I must have been feeling really kindly to have supplied you with such a good NTT!! ;D
You've always been very generous! ;D
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Re: Narcissus in September 2018
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2018, 12:22:42 PM »
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If it is the biggest bulbocodium you grow you have done well at the end of the day.
As for Jocelyn Newman growing tall I suspect it is more to do with your growing conditions. Here it is usually fairly short-stemmed. What have you been feeding it with to get such extra height?
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Re: Narcissus in September 2018
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2018, 10:28:42 AM »
'Langley Dandy' was bred by Eva Murray who lived about 15 minutes away from here.
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Re: Narcissus in September 2018
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2018, 10:48:40 AM »
As for Jocelyn Newman growing tall I suspect it is more to do with your growing conditions. Here it is usually fairly short-stemmed. What have you been feeding it with to get such extra height?
Hi Graham,
the other bulb I have of "Jocelyn Newman' came from you and is growing in another bed where it appears to be the normal height.
This one came as a dry bulb - one of 3 labelled 'Charity May' (the other 2 are true to name) from someone at our plant swap last December.
They were planted in a raised bed with other bulbs (mostly daffs) and they all appear to be growing normally.
It's a mystery to me - I'll wait to see if it is the same size next year
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Re: Narcissus in September 2018
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2018, 10:58:33 AM »
Here are 3 daffs we got from Glenbrook Bulb Farm in Tassie in 2015:
1 &2) Narcissus 'Slip Slop'
3) Narcissus 'Barrii'
4) Narcissus 'Burbidgei'
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Re: Narcissus in September 2018
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2018, 02:31:38 PM »
Narcissus 'Pixie's Sister' 7YY
Narcissus 08-18MJ (Limequilla x [Hillstar x Quickstar]) LTrevanion 2018
Narcissus 'Charity May' 6YY
Narcissus 'Sparkling Tarts' 8YO
Narcissus 'Stray' 6WWP
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