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Re: Crocus November 2016
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2016, 08:48:13 PM »
Crocus goulimyi var. leucanthus, JJA345.220

I'm not sure its a true type or hybrid ???

It looks neither like goulimy nor like leucanthus. Sorry, but I no this problem.
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Re: Crocus November 2016
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2016, 11:18:24 AM »
It looks neither like goulimy nor like leucanthus. Sorry, but I no this problem.
Hmm... thanks in any way, sokol  ;)
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Re: Crocus November 2016
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2016, 11:31:49 AM »
Crocus wattiorum
It drizzled today and all crocus flowers closed but wattiorum's :)
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Re: Crocus November 2016
« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2016, 11:35:55 AM »
Crocus wattiorum
It drizzled today and all crocus flowers closed but wattiorum's :)

Tatsuo, they are gorgeous! I have some young plants coming along and hope one day they may look like this.
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Re: Crocus November 2016
« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2016, 11:38:23 AM »
Crocus goulimyi var. leucanthus, JJA345.220

I'm not sure its a true type or hybrid ???

Tatsuo, this does look like C. goulimyi to me, but it is not var. leucanthus, which is much paler in colour.
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Re: Crocus November 2016
« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2016, 04:23:51 PM »
Crocus goulimyi var. leucanthus, JJA345.220

I'm not sure its a true type or hybrid ???
In my experience var leucanthus hybridises freely with the blue forms in cultivation.  The offspring vary.  With careful hand pollinating I have achieved white and pale offspring but if pollen from blue flowering goulimyi gets in the offspring are usually blue.

Many years ago I had seed known to be from Mani White.  I was told it would breed blue the first generation but I could expect whites among blues in later generations.  This has proved to be the case.

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Re: Crocus November 2016
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2016, 12:41:14 PM »
Tatsuo, they are gorgeous! I have some young plants coming along and hope one day they may look like this.
Thanks, Matt. Hoping your wattiorum flower soon!
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Re: Crocus November 2016
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2016, 12:46:49 PM »
Tatsuo, this does look like C. goulimyi to me, but it is not var. leucanthus, which is much paler in colour.
In my experience var leucanthus hybridises freely with the blue forms in cultivation.  The offspring vary.  With careful hand pollinating I have achieved white and pale offspring but if pollen from blue flowering goulimyi gets in the offspring are usually blue.

Many years ago I had seed known to be from Mani White.  I was told it would breed blue the first generation but I could expect whites among blues in later generations.  This has proved to be the case.

Thank you, Matt and Tony. The blue seedling must be a hybrid with var. goulimyi. I found a white flower came out from another seedling in the same pot today :)
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Re: Crocus November 2016
« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2016, 01:46:30 PM »
Stuning group of wattiorum Tatsuo!

Crocus laevigatus is the star of the day here

3x Crocus laevigatus gold back form
Crocus laevigatus dark form
Crocus laevigatus ssp. pumilus

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Re: Crocus November 2016
« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2016, 06:49:07 PM »
I like the creamy colors of the 2nd photo. is it a locus form?
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Re: Crocus November 2016
« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2016, 06:53:30 PM »
i don't know Yann! I got it out of a swap. But i also really like those colouring . Something else than blue and white in autumn flowering crocus.

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Re: Crocus November 2016
« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2016, 08:35:12 PM »
I like the creamy colors of the 2nd photo. is it a locus form?
See more about C. laevigatus  'Goldback'  here :
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12424.msg316617#msg316617

" Crocus laevigatus GOLD BACK - plant with amazing history. I think it was sent from United Kingdom by Roger Poulet some 20 years ago to "down under" - to Marcus Harvey in Australia. Last summer Marcus very kindly sent me corm of it. So it returned from "exile" to its native hemisphere and now made first flower here. I'm shocked by its color!
Janis "
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6194.msg172484#msg172484
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6194.msg172901#msg172901
 
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=7934.msg217470#msg217470 - where Janis suggests that the shape suggest  more C. boryi

http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8043.msg219835#msg219835 here Janis shows a yellow- backed form he found in Greece


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Re: Crocus November 2016
« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2016, 08:53:03 PM »
Woooww, that's a lot of information Maggy!
Thanks for that!

I'm happy to grow this gem and hope is do well in the coming years

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Re: Crocus November 2016
« Reply #43 on: November 17, 2016, 09:12:32 PM »
Of course, Ruben - the forum and SRGC site is FULL of such great information!!
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Re: Crocus November 2016
« Reply #44 on: November 17, 2016, 11:15:17 PM »
great Maggi! thx
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