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sokol

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Re: Crocus October 2016
« Reply #120 on: October 25, 2016, 09:17:23 PM »
Just a couple from the greenhouse today:-

Crocus goulimyi
and from Crocus Group 2012 seed sown October 2012 and flowering for the first time C. vernus, or is it?? Should it be this early?

David, this can't be Crocus vernus. It is the wrong time and it looks like Crocus speciosus.
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Re: Crocus October 2016
« Reply #121 on: October 26, 2016, 07:23:53 AM »
...and from Crocus Group 2012 seed sown October 2012 and flowering for the first time C. vernus, or is it?? Should it be this early?

Hi David, surely not vernus. I see a yellow throat and guess it has white anthers which would make it to Crocus pulchellus.

Sokol, all my plants are growing in the open garden
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Re: Crocus October 2016
« Reply #122 on: October 26, 2016, 06:35:12 PM »
If God want to punish someone, he applies replacing anathema...  I'm now replacing all my Crocus pots (more than 3000) from my former nursery to my living place. Every day I'm making three tours with my car (both ways together 35 km) in each tour mowing 50-60 pots and this week hope to finish with spring bloomers. Today I replaced Cretan C. sieberi between others and found nice surprise. This spring I visited Crete to make pictures of C. sieberi in situ. Few years ago I was there too early and all mountains were under deep snow. Now I was there too late and most sieberi finished blooming. By the way up on Omalos I collected some crocuses in leaves supposing them all as C. sieberi. I was so self-confident about name that I gave no attention to corm tunics, took corms inside peace of soil. Now I found that there are few flowers in pots with label "16GRS-... C. sieberi, Omalos". It turned that by the way I collected few of C. pumilus - perfectly matching dimensions separating it from C. laevigatus, so confirming, that I was right separating it as new species.
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Re: Crocus October 2016
« Reply #123 on: October 26, 2016, 06:47:53 PM »
Those two are pictures of C. pumilus from my coming book. The first was collected in some distance from Omalos at my first visit there when mountain tops with C. sieberi was under deep snow. The second was collected on Mt. Vouvala and I got it after wish of Jim Archibald.

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Re: Crocus October 2016
« Reply #124 on: October 26, 2016, 06:48:57 PM »
Thanks sokol and Thomas, anthers look yellow/orange to me, does that make it speciosus? Well, they do all look the same, or is that Snowdrops? ;D
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Re: Crocus October 2016
« Reply #125 on: October 26, 2016, 06:53:56 PM »
1) and 2) Crocus sativus

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Re: Crocus October 2016
« Reply #126 on: October 26, 2016, 06:56:25 PM »
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Re: Crocus October 2016
« Reply #127 on: October 26, 2016, 06:58:11 PM »
This spring on way back from high altitudes at Omalos we found small depression where more snow was accumulated and there still few C. sieberi were blooming. So I attache here those pictures although they are out of season.
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Re: Crocus October 2016
« Reply #128 on: October 26, 2016, 07:05:14 PM »
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Re: Crocus October 2016
« Reply #129 on: October 26, 2016, 07:06:06 PM »
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Re: Crocus October 2016
« Reply #130 on: October 26, 2016, 07:07:32 PM »
Crocus speciosus 'Conqueror'

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Re: Crocus October 2016
« Reply #131 on: October 26, 2016, 07:08:21 PM »
This spring on way back from high altitudes at Omalos we found small depression where more snow was accumulated and there still few C. sieberi were blooming. So I attache here those pictures although they are out of season.
Beautiful markings on that first one. Thanks for posting.
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Re: Crocus October 2016
« Reply #132 on: October 26, 2016, 08:27:25 PM »
Those two are pictures of C. pumilus from my coming book. The first was collected in some distance from Omalos at my first visit there when mountain tops with C. sieberi was under deep snow. The second was collected on Mt. Vouvala and I got it after wish of Jim Archibald.

Janis, Crocus pumilus from Vouvala looks a bit strange because of the long stamens. Is it the only plant with this character or are all like this?
Stefan
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Re: Crocus October 2016
« Reply #133 on: October 26, 2016, 08:29:14 PM »
This spring on way back from high altitudes at Omalos we found small depression where more snow was accumulated and there still few C. sieberi were blooming. So I attache here those pictures although they are out of season.

Beautiful markings, mine from Crete are all quite simple.
Stefan
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Re: Crocus October 2016
« Reply #134 on: October 26, 2016, 08:39:36 PM »
Thanks sokol and Thomas, anthers look yellow/orange to me, does that make it speciosus? Well, they do all look the same, or is that Snowdrops? ;D

Yes it does, David. The stripes that can be seen from outside are typical for both, C. speciosus and C. pulchellus, with the  colour of the stamens you can easily seperate them.
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