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Gerdk

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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus (NH)
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2016, 08:26:56 AM »
I have a question for the experts of you on Narcissus serotinus.
I bought a bulb in November last year in a paper bag. I planted in a pot in the greenhouse. he made no leaves and no flower.
I stopped watering in May and allowed to dry all summer (cook behind the windows). This year I changed to earth and he received his first water storm on 15 September. the bulb was still there, with firm roots start growing.
my question is: is it normal that he spent a full year to rest?

When planted very late in November it might be a reaction of the bulb to wait for the next growing season.
Even when bulbs planted and watered at the right time it occurs (although rarely) that they 'sleep' during the time when growth is expected.
I guess your plant will show either leaves or flowers shortly.

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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus (NH)
« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2016, 10:32:06 AM »
I also thought that it was like that but Rafa told me (by MP) that it was already obsolete. He told me that
- Narcissus obsoletus should be the correct name for Narcissus elegans (strong species with multiflore stem, southern spain, northern Africa)
- Narcissus serotinus is Narcissus serotinus ss. It is only found in andalousia, all N. serotinus from various place in mediterranean bassin are the last one (N. deficiens) (stem with only 1 flower, no leaves when flowering size)
- Narcissus deficiens should be the right name for N. miniatus, or "N. serotinus" from Tony, or N. obsoletus from Anthony ! (stem with one or few flowers)
As I said above, the three species are separated by chromosome number, (visible differences aside), but I await to see whether swapping of obsoletus for elegans stands. I have seedlings of serotinus and await to see how it compares with obsoletus (now elegans? - see a previous post of mine), which I find to be a very vigorous plant that multiplies very well vegetatively and produces masses of seed.
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus (NH)
« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2016, 02:57:19 PM »
When planted very late in November it might be a reaction of the bulb to wait for the next growing season.
Even when bulbs planted and watered at the right time it occurs (although rarely) that they 'sleep' during the time when growth is expected.
I guess your plant will show either leaves or flowers shortly.

Gerd

Thank you for the information  Géré.
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus (NH)
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2016, 11:52:18 AM »
Narcissus miniatus (obsoletus) x N. tazetta

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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus (NH)
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2016, 01:32:55 PM »
Narcissus miniatus (obsoletus) x N. tazetta

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What a fascinating hybrid, Gerd :D I think it would have attractive fragrance. Is it your original breed?
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus (NH)
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2016, 04:02:44 AM »
Narcissus broussonetii :)
« Last Edit: October 28, 2016, 10:20:44 AM by YT »
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus (NH)
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2016, 10:10:39 AM »
Tatsuo, your pots are always kept so neat - you put us to shame! I am enjoying, as always, seeing your  lovely collection of plants photographed on your blog page.  8) 8)
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus (NH)
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2016, 11:25:24 AM »
Thank you Maggi. I share only 'well taken' images here ;D ::)
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus (NH)
« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2016, 02:05:07 PM »
What a fascinating hybrid, Gerd :D I think it would have attractive fragrance. Is it your original breed?

Thank you Tatsuo. Yes, it has a pleasant fragrance. The hybrid is of wild origin from Israel and a gift
of a generous forum member.
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus (NH)
« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2016, 04:48:58 AM »
Here is my 'Autumn colors' hybrids and Narcissus papyraceus mixed with 'Inbal'. They started flowering 10/09/16. I'm growing seedlings of Narcissus deficiens and Narcissus obsoletus so I can create my own hybrids. The most fragrant Autumn colors Tazetta is #3.

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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus (NH)
« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2016, 08:24:00 AM »
They are lovely. I will await your next generation with interest!
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus (NH)
« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2016, 10:14:33 AM »
Very nice indeed Brad.

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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus (NH)
« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2016, 06:02:26 AM »
The first green Narcissus serotinus hybrids or whatever they are are starting to flower.
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus (NH)
« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2016, 11:14:31 AM »
A very attractive hybrid - is it an artificial cross?

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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus (NH)
« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2016, 03:42:56 PM »
What is the parentage of these viridiflorus hybrids?

Mr. Nijssen does not produce itself. All that I understood his explanation is that they may have genes Narcissus poeticus.
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