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Re: alpine and subalpine Plants from New Zealand
« Reply #360 on: January 02, 2018, 09:50:44 AM »
Hi Mark,

As with many other Raoulias there is some variation in the foliage colour. I looked through my image library and found the following picture not particularly golden but tending that way.

hmm, although it's over 30 years ago I don't think it's that.

The leaves had a sharp point. Rather than being woolly they had the same sort of silk / satin  finish I remember Leucogenes leontopodium has.
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Re: alpine and subalpine Plants from New Zealand
« Reply #361 on: January 02, 2018, 09:55:56 AM »
It looks like you had a good day. I am surprised Hilda is letting you out of the house at the moment after some of your more recent escapades.

I used to think the Chionohebes at the base of the tors (similar to the one you have posted) were Chionohebe glabra until I found the real one growing on very wet sites in snowbank areas. It sort of keys out to Chionohebe pulvinaris which has been recorded from Otago, but it does not make a lot of sense since Chionohebe pulvinaris has a more northern distribution. The question I would pose and I don't think there is an answer to it yet is "Are these plants more similar genetically to Chionohebe thomsonii which you will find growing on the exposed cushion field a few metres away or to Chionohebe pulvinaris which is found predominantly in the northern part of the South Island"

Thanks for the comments David.
Maybe we need another visit to the very wet site on the Pisa Range to make a comparison..... ;D   
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Re: alpine and subalpine Plants from New Zealand
« Reply #362 on: January 02, 2018, 10:12:13 AM »
hmm, although it's over 30 years ago I don't think it's that.

The leaves had a sharp point. Rather than being woolly they had the same sort of silk / satin  finish I remember Leucogenes leontopodium has.

Hi Mark ... so alike maybe?

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Re: alpine and subalpine Plants from New Zealand
« Reply #363 on: January 02, 2018, 11:19:55 AM »
in some ways - much smaller, leaves probably 3mm, noticeable point, green yellow with a silk / satin sheen. Formed a dense cushion, might have formed a mat if I hadn't killed it.
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Re: alpine and subalpine Plants from New Zealand
« Reply #364 on: January 02, 2018, 11:22:29 AM »
ok, I think I've found it..it look like this one, labelled Raoulia hectori var mollis

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Raoulia_hectori_var_mollis_1.JPG

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« Reply #365 on: January 02, 2018, 07:28:47 PM »
Dave, I'm afraid to ask but in that photo of the bike, what is that huge patch of blood above it? Whom did you slaughter? ;D
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Re: alpine and subalpine Plants from New Zealand
« Reply #366 on: January 03, 2018, 10:07:45 AM »
ok, I think I've found it..it look like this one, labelled Raoulia hectori var mollis

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Raoulia_hectori_var_mollis_1.JPG

I have searched for Raoulia images on the web and have seen some weird  and wonderful things. Sadly many of them are mis-identified. Apart from simple identification errors once plants are taken into cultivation they frequently loose their original character and become unrecognisable. I would place the image in the Wikipedia link of R. hectorii var mollis in this category. However I have retrieved this from my image library. It is provisionally labelled Raoulia hectorii var mollis but since the entire genus needs to be revised I cannot be certain it is named correctly. It comes from Mt Burns and is related to Raoulia hectorii but has a golden colouration. When I first found it I tag named it Raoulia hectori "Golden'

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Re: alpine and subalpine Plants from New Zealand
« Reply #367 on: January 03, 2018, 10:24:49 AM »
hi, yes, that looks like it. I wonder where Jack Drake's got it from? I bought a number of New Zealand plants from them I've never seen elsewhere - from memory it was Aciphylla simplex, Phyllacne colensoi, Pygmea tetragona, Raoulia monroi, Dracophyllum lyalli and many more.
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« Reply #368 on: January 03, 2018, 01:35:14 PM »
Fantastic landscapes and plants  :o
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Re: alpine and subalpine Plants from New Zealand
« Reply #369 on: January 03, 2018, 02:34:38 PM »
Jack Drake specialised (among others) in NZ plants that is where we got our enthusiasm for them way back in the early 1970's - he used to get seed sent from NZ.
Many of the special plants Inschriach propagated and sold started to disappear from circulation when John Lawson, who took over the nursery, retired.
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Re: alpine and subalpine Plants from New Zealand
« Reply #370 on: January 03, 2018, 02:56:48 PM »
Ian...

It is really a great pity ones that there is no respectable successor in this special area. I would pay a property... for good seeds from NZ. 😭😭

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Re: alpine and subalpine Plants from New Zealand
« Reply #371 on: January 03, 2018, 03:58:56 PM »
I used to get seed from the New Zealand alpine garden society - don't they do that any more?
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Re: alpine and subalpine Plants from New Zealand
« Reply #372 on: January 03, 2018, 04:21:44 PM »
I used to get seed from the New Zealand alpine garden society - don't they do that any more?

 yes..... http://www.nzags.com/ - their seed ex for 2017 is over now, though.
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Re: alpine and subalpine Plants from New Zealand
« Reply #373 on: January 03, 2018, 05:05:30 PM »
hmm..seems they don't have as much in the native section as I remember - but then that was along time ago.
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Re: alpine and subalpine Plants from New Zealand
« Reply #374 on: January 03, 2018, 05:19:38 PM »
... I am also a member with NZAGS. I also got various seeds of the seed exchange. I was very grateful for it. 😊, However, some of the shown plants of David and Dave there also is not there. Logically.

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