Narcissus March 2008

[Gerdk]

Hans,
Some daffodils escaped in medieval times - a long period for building large populations.

Gerd

[Gerdk]

Just to make it more cofused this diabolic genus Narcissus, here this amazing big trumpet with 25 cm stem, corona 3'5 diameter, 3'5 corona-tube and 1cm perianthe tube with green segments.

Narcissus pseudonarcissus ssp. confusicoronatus 

Rafa,
Thank you for pics and information!

Gerd

[mark smyth]

I know someone who must have Little Spell wrongly labelled. Theirs is a tall plants and if I had known how small it was would have had it years ago

[annew]

Mark, that one I showed is the first flowering from twin-scaling. Maybe it will be bigger when more mature. Daffseek is not much help when they just say 'less that 32.5cm', but the distinctive shape of the flower looks right.

[mark smyth]

Anne I think the Daffodil people need to introduce a new catagorie for true miniatures. Your first image shows a real cutie

[Rafa]

Very imaginative name Gerd!, but it was just a Narcissus asturiensis.

But is extremely interesting to us as it could be the first location in Segovia province.

[Gerdk]

Rafa,
This N. asturiensis is very far from  those plants which I cultivate here (origin unknown).  But I must confess, I never saw them in the wild and so do not know the variation which is possible. Blanchard reported larger tetraploids.
How far is the next known location of asturiensis from your place?

Gerd

[derekb]

  Maggi,  in answer to your question yes friends of many years.

 Derek

[Rafa]

Exactly Gerd! These plants are the big tetraplid trumpets from Narcissus asturiensis species group. The nearest population is here in my village! but in the border side with Avila province. It is 67 km far from this one and I think it is the same robust variety that grows in my village described as villarbildensis (Villar de Bildas  in Asturias, is the type localitie for this robust variety of this tetraploid N. asturiensis).

[Lesley Cox]

I know someone who must have Little Spell wrongly labelled. Theirs is a tall plants and if I had known how small it was would have had it years ago

Do you think it's wrongly spelled?

[annew]

 

[annew]

I wonder if the population of asturiensis mentioned by Rafa is the source of the so-called large forms of asturiensis in cultivation, such as 'Wavertree'?

[annew]

By the way, I apologise for not putting the scientific names in italics, but I haven't worked out how to stop it once I've started!

[Maggi Young]

Anne: for names in italics, click the italics symbol, then type the name between the code marks    which come up, or, type the name, highlight it (by leftclicking and running over it ) then click the italic button....in these ways only the name comes up italicised.

Interesting point about the derivation/provenance of 'Wavertree'

[mark smyth]

Brian Duncan has a large range of asturiensis in his garden. Guess who's going to take photos on Friday!?