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Re: Scilla 2008
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2008, 07:32:50 PM »
Good to know Gerd. I've got a few bulbs in a pot, but think I will loose them in the grass...a nice little drift of blue would be wonderful...
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Re: Scilla 2008
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2008, 10:58:37 PM »
My general rule of thumb has always been that scillas have blue pollen while chionodoxas have white. But I don't know if that is always true.
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Re: Scilla 2008
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2008, 02:01:40 PM »
Tony ,a little late , but I just came across your photo of the Scilla in your raised bed .It looks very much like my x Chionoscilla allenii ,a bigeneric hybrid . Yes Scilla bithynica is lovely , but here in my garden seeds itself all over the place ,and I have to weed it out.
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Re: Scilla 2008
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2008, 11:17:34 PM »
Two months later, my S. miczenkoana is just starting...better late than never!  You can all re-live the Scilla season through myself!
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Re: Scilla 2008
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2008, 08:37:53 PM »
Lesley,
I believe the difference is that Scilla have thin spreading filaments to the anthers. Chionodoxas have fat filaments that keep together.
Tony
My chionoscilla also looks like that. Triangular filaments but spreading.
First a close up of Scilla melaina
Second. a closeup of a chionodoxa forbesii or something like that.
Three We have a hybrid swarm so I am not sure about the names of our chionodoxas
Four. A close up of my Scionoscilla allenii.
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Re: Scilla 2008
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2008, 08:58:53 PM »
Thank you! I believe I am learning something here about the plants which I find so confusing!  :-[ :-X
NOW:   who can help with descriptive photos of Puschkinias.....and   P. scilloides, Scilla puschkinioides etc??  ::)
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Re: Scilla 2008
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2008, 09:13:19 PM »
Tony ,a little late , but I just came across your photo of the Scilla in your raised bed .It looks very much like my x Chionoscilla allenii ,a bigeneric hybrid . Yes Scilla bithynica is lovely , but here in my garden seeds itself all over the place ,and I have to weed it out.

Otto thanks for the identification.You are quite correct I have found a labelled picture from last year.The bythinica is also seeding around but not yet a weed.
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Re: Scilla 2008
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2008, 10:13:34 PM »
The X Chionoscilla allenii in the bulb frame at our Botanical garden opened in the last few days.  Here is a close-up
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Re: Scilla 2008
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2008, 10:19:20 PM »
The first Puschkinia scilloides are opening too.  Outdoors, these are still a couple of weeks from blooming.

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Re: Scilla 2008
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2008, 01:27:14 AM »
Otto, maybe you could save a little seed for me of Scilla bithynica? Pretty please?
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Re: Scilla 2008
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2008, 07:47:00 AM »
As I understand it, the filaments are fused to a short tube at the base in Puschkinia. I do not need to show a picture. there is a good one above.
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Re: Scilla 2008
« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2008, 11:08:16 AM »
Göte, thank you  :-*
So, with these filament arrangements we have already covered, I am making good progress.... I think :-\
There is still scope for confusion for me with some of these bulbs though!!
« Last Edit: April 21, 2008, 11:10:54 AM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Scilla 2008
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2008, 12:50:35 PM »
Hans

Scilla sibirica newer turns it’s petals back like Cyclamen. And it has several flowers usually. Your

could be a white form of S. rosenii. It has exactly Cyclamen-like flowers.

Could somebody ID my Caucasian Scilla?


http://photofile.ru/users/olga_bond/3535239/76733762/#mainImageLink
Possibly S. vinogradovii?
« Last Edit: April 21, 2008, 12:52:29 PM by Olga Bondareva »
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Re: Scilla 2008
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2008, 01:00:47 PM »
Olga,
You are right about the blue Scilla siberica but the white one does turn its tepals backwards. I grow both that one and Scilla rosenii and the genaral habitus, earliness, ease of cultivation are identical with the blue siberica but definitely differs from rosenii which is larger in all parts, has wider leaves and is more difficult in my place.
I know that it is an anomaly but the books and my observations coincide.
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Re: Scilla 2008
« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2008, 03:12:10 PM »
Gote

I can't disput with books.  :D But I have S. sibirica Alba - it's the same to spesies. Another clone?
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