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What Ipheion?
« on: February 21, 2008, 03:49:04 PM »
This Ipheion has been in my garden for a number of years and has been totally neglected as can probably be seen from the number and size of the flowers. Bearing in mind the not particularly good quality of the pictures could anyone suggest what it might be please?

« Last Edit: February 21, 2008, 04:08:25 PM by Maggi Young »
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Re: What Ipheon?
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2008, 04:11:47 PM »
Hi David,
From what I can see, I think it's the normal Ipheon uniflora.
Beware if you try to remove it - I had a somewhat similar clump entangled in the roots of a shrublet - I wanted to get rid of both and am now still struggling with the remaining bulbils that keep popping up everytime I think I got rid of the last one....  >:(
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Re: What Ipheion?
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2008, 06:57:43 PM »
1. thanks Maggi, I shall write a hundred times 'Ipheion is spelt I-P-H-E-I-O-N ::)

2. Thanks Luc, I will leave it where it is and give it some TLC. By the way having Googled it I see it can be uniflora and also uniflorum or is one singular and the other plural (as Peter Cook used to say 'I would've been a judge but didn't have the Latin')
« Last Edit: February 21, 2008, 07:01:25 PM by David Nicholson »
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Re: What Ipheion?
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2008, 07:11:07 PM »
Well, Google being what it is, if you were to google Ipheon, you'd get plenty results for that too... doesn't mean it's kosher!! It would have been uniflora when it was a Triteleia, or a Brodiaea, or any of the other things the taxonomists have called it over the years  :P
You were close enough that we know what you mean though, and that's always a good start!
Luc... I 've just looked again at your post... you better do some lines too! :-X
« Last Edit: March 04, 2008, 01:17:59 PM by Maggi Young »
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Re: What Ipheion?
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2008, 07:28:51 PM »
You're a very tough teacher Maggi - we do our best you know...  :-\ ;D
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Re: What Ipheion?
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2008, 07:43:05 PM »
Luc, it is cold and I am in a bad mood... Lily our little dog has a sore ear and a sore paw... I am worried for her.... perhaps I was too severe on you.... especially since my own spelling is not always the best  :-\
You need only write half the amount of lines!
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Re: What Ipheion?
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2008, 08:32:39 PM »
You are too kind Maggi...
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Re: What Ipheion?
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2008, 08:49:30 PM »
Favouritism!
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Re: What Ipheion?
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2008, 08:55:56 PM »
I find the best TLC for Ipheion uniflorum ( :)) is Roundup. >:(

Though I also grow (deliberately) 'Froyle Mill,' 'Charlotte Bishop and 'Alberto Castillo' and I adore `Rolf Feidler' though I think that's a different species, isn't it.

I do hope Lily is better soon. Our lad has just come from the garden, one of the many wilder parts, covered in cleavers seeds so he's not wildly popular at present.
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Re: What Ipheion?
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2008, 09:03:56 PM »
Lily says thanks for your kind words, Lesley  :-*


David, I am shocked at your accusation  :o I would not stoop to such behaviour, even if Luc were not from a home of Chocolate ::)
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Re: What Ipheion?
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2008, 07:31:36 AM »
Luc - I made good experiences when I replanted my Ipheion last year. They even survived mold affection
in the place where I stored them wrongly. Their leaves are present since last autumn and even some
flowers found their way out in winter.

Maggi, give Lily a big kiss from me - hope this helps
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Re: What Ipheion?
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2008, 08:29:49 AM »
Maggi - this time it's me having to correct you.
I'm not from "a" home of chocolate, I'm from "the" home of chocolate  ;D
Thanks everyone for your moral support in my battle against Ipheion uniflorum
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Re: What Ipheion?
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2008, 11:42:35 AM »
Ipheion .. would have been uniflora when it was a Triteleia, or a Brodiaea, or any of the other things the taxonomists have called it over the years 

The taxonomists have called it all sorts and now thrown out Iphieon as a genus completely.  Some of it is now Tristagma, so Ipheion uniflorum is now Tristagma uniflorum.  Ipheion dialystemon (we discussed on another thread) is now Nothoscordum dialystemon.  There has been quite a considerable revision of the family Alliaceae in general.  Interestingly, (all? some?) genera previously in Amaryllidaceae are now in Alliaceae. 
So Narcissus and Galanthus are now onions. 
And little blue jobs Scilla, Hyacinthus etc are in Asparagaceae.   

This and other interesting moves can be found at Kew monocot checklist
 http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/

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Re: What Ipheion?
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2008, 11:52:01 AM »
Tristigma uniflorum or Tristigma uniflora?
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Re: What Ipheion?
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2008, 12:29:39 PM »
Tristigma uniflorum or Tristigma uniflora?

 ;D  ;D

It's TristAgMA uniflorUM  (no one said it had to rhyme!)

 ;D  ;D
« Last Edit: March 04, 2008, 01:18:37 PM by Maggi Young »
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