Primula 2015

[Mark Griffiths]

David, thanks. Yes, I've had it for a while - this one is a cutting, I need to look for the parent  At my old house I had a collection where I think I didn't water them in the pots for years. They grew very slowly, flowered well and the losses were absolutely minimal. For some reason here I need to water them directly, they grow faster but I get more losses - usually I'm able to salvage a cutting though.  But I lost Pinkie and Viscountess Byng last year and that's the first time for along time I've lost all of a clone.

[Graeme]

The allioniis are getting going here now, this one is P. allionii Rosemary

now that is a good looking flower

[David Nicholson]

Mark, my set up isn't really conducive to growing Primulas and I really have to struggle to keep plants in decent nick for more than a couple of years.

[Mark Griffiths]

funny thing is when I first got it I didn't rate it. I think I had it too dry or it was too young, I'd get really small flowers - now it's alot better.

[Mark Griffiths]

David, they used to thrive on neglect, I have plants over 20 years old but they are still quite small. I'll be posting more as they come out.

[Matt T]

Do all these Primula named with a single female forename, like 'Rosemary', come from anyone/where in particular? I have x pubescens 'Christine'  and also a 'Jenny'. Strikes me that it could be a breeder's naming system?

[Graeme]

Do all these Primula named with a single female forename, like 'Rosemary', come from anyone/where in particular? I have x pubescens 'Christine'  and also a 'Jenny'. Strikes me that it could be a breeder's naming system?

depends who has named them
you will see stable names like 'Lindum x' at that stage you know who has bred it

My personal favourite is P.Allionii 'Anna Griffiths' which is an old but good one

[Mark Griffiths]

I think "Jenny" was named after Jenny Archibald so I'd agree it is various breeders that these are coming from.

[Graeme]

I think "Jenny" was named after Jenny Archibald so I'd agree it is various breeders that these are coming from.

I know Brian Burrow named a lot after his children/relatives - Martin and Dreena Thompson always name theirs Lindum - AIRE series was Peter Lister - not sure about Wharfedale series and Broadwell series 

[Matt T]

Thanks guys, that's interesting. It's nice to hear stories behind the plants we're growing.

[David Nicholson]

Mark's Primula allionii 'Rosemary': F2 from P. 'Mary Berry' raised originally by Margaret Earle under HME 238/85

Matt's Primula allionii 'Jenny': The good news that it was indeed originally named by Jim Archibald from his collection JCA 4161/23. The bad news that there is another 'Jenny' in circulation also.

Sources for both above National Auricula and Primula Society, Northern Section   (I was going to copy and paste a Link here but, annoyingly, every so often my ability to copy and paste things disappears). The data can be found by accessing 'Allionii Data' from the top of the Northern Section pages, the Northern Section pages are best found from the NAPS main page. Sorry to make it complicated.

Matt's P. x pubescens 'Christine' ""A very fine and distinctive variety. it is unfortunate that many of the plants masquerading under this name are in fact either 'Boothman's Var.' or something similar. The true plant has very rich pink thrum-eyed flowers, that fade slightly to a dark old rose. The veins on the petals tend to be slightly raised giving a textured appearance. The leaves are pale green, evenly and lightly serrated.......""

Source: "Primulas the complete guide" by the late Mary A Robinson published Crowood 1994

One of the problems in the Primula growing world is that so many of them are very, very similar in appearance, growth habit etc (Where have I heard that before!!). NAPS has a regulatory function as far as it's members are concerned in that members entering plants in seedling classes and winning prizes are then, and only then invited to name their plant(s).

[David Nicholson]

I know Brian Burrow named a lot after his children/relatives - Martin and Dreena Thompson always name theirs Lindum - AIRE series was Peter Lister - not sure about Wharfedale series and Broadwell series

'Wharfedale' raised by Alec Stubbs of Grassington (in Wharfedale)
'Broadwell' Joe Elliott from his nursery of that name, long closed.

[Matt T]

Mark's Primula allionii 'Rosemary': F2 from P. 'Mary Berry' raised originally by Margaret Earle under HME 238/85

Matt's Primula allionii 'Jenny': The good news that it was indeed originally named by Jim Archibald from his collection JCA 4161/23. The bad news that there is another 'Jenny' in circulation also.

Sources for both above National Auricula and Primula Society, Northern Section   (I was going to copy and paste a Link here but, annoyingly, every so often my ability to copy and paste things disappears). The data can be found by accessing 'Allionii Data' from the top of the Northern Section pages, the Northern Section pages are best found from the NAPS main page. Sorry to make it complicated.

Matt's P. x pubescens 'Christine' ""A very fine and distinctive variety. it is unfortunate that many of the plants masquerading under this name are in fact either 'Boothman's Var.' or something similar. The true plant has very rich pink thrum-eyed flowers, that fade slightly to a dark old rose. The veins on the petals tend to be slightly raised giving a textured appearance. The leaves are pale green, evenly and lightly serrated.......""

Source: "Primulas the complete guide" by the late Mary A Robinson published Crowood 1994

One of the problems in the Primula growing world is that so many of them are very, very similar in appearance, growth habit etc (Where have I heard that before!!). NAPS has a regulatory function as far as it's members are concerned in that members entering plants in seedling classes and winning prizes are then, and only then invited to name their plant(s).

Thanks, David!
Looking back over my photos from last spring, my 'Christine' seems to be the true plant 
Sounds as though I will have to do some homework to find out which 'Jenny' I have.

[Mark Griffiths]

thanks david, I'll see if I can look up some of the other ones I have.

what I want to know is whatever happned to "Crowsley's variety" - used to be one of the few clones you could get - not seen it for decades.

[Mark Griffiths]

let's see if I can get the link to post

http://www.auriculas.org.uk/Allionii_Data.htm