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Re: Sternbergia 2008
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2008, 11:20:07 AM »
Have taken another picture as more are now open.  You can see that the one at back left has a flower and 2 buds.
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Re: Sternbergia 2008
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2008, 11:59:43 AM »
.......confused? oh, yes!
Art - your last picture is really nice & the plants are lovely. I'll take you up on your offer next year. Although the size is consistent with S.greuteriana  they don't  look much  like the plants I grow & have seen elsewhere  under that name....... as Maggi says.... 
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Re: Sternbergia 2008
« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2008, 12:35:01 PM »
Here is Sternbergia sicula, in flower now. This form is derived from a collection made by Dr John Marr near Dodona (JRM 3186). Coming from the northern part of the species’ range it does not require a hot,  dry bake to make it flower (though it will tolerate such treatment).

Being so close to the Med it wouldn't matter either way Gerry! ::)
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Re: Sternbergia 2008
« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2008, 12:37:52 PM »
Is greuteriana only found on Crete? It is only supposed to have round tips to the petals.
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Re: Sternbergia 2008
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2008, 03:34:51 PM »
Here is Sternbergia sicula, in flower now. This form is derived from a collection made by Dr John Marr near Dodona (JRM 3186). Coming from the northern part of the species’ range it does not require a hot,  dry bake to make it flower (though it will tolerate such treatment).

Being so close to the Med it wouldn't matter either way Gerry! ::)
You may be right about this form of S. sicula Anthony, but I find it matters with a Cretan form of  S. lutea I grow. This needs a roasting to flower & will not perform outside in a raised S-facing bed even in my hot garden.

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Re: Sternbergia 2008
« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2008, 03:48:30 PM »
Is greuteriana only found on Crete? It is only supposed to have round tips to the petals.

I thought it was only found on Crete but according to RBG Kew & Paul Christian it is also found on Karpathos. The Karpathos form  is described as having obtuse petals & being stoloniferous. My - rather miserable - form of  S. greuteriana, if it is that plant, has pointed petals  & is not stoloniferous.
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Re: Sternbergia 2008
« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2008, 08:16:28 PM »
One of mine S. colchiflora flowered this year after being neglected under the bench
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Re: Sternbergia 2008
« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2008, 03:39:09 PM »
For more  illuminating (or confusing) info on Sternbergia in the wild (including Karpathos) see Topic: Sternbergia 2007.
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Re: Sternbergia 2008
« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2008, 04:32:55 PM »
Gerry

I would if I could find it.  Search did not locate :(
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Re: Sternbergia 2008
« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2008, 05:08:36 PM »
Art - I found it via Google. Enter Sternbergia greuteriana Karpathos. I'm beginning to wonder if this might be  your plant. Does yours produce pea-sized offsets on the ends of stolons?
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Re: Sternbergia 2008
« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2008, 06:59:59 PM »
Gerry

Found the site. http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1026.0 


 Still not sure mine are greuteriana.  My two pots of known greuteriana appear to lean over as they emerge, whereas the 'disputed' pot all grow straight up.
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Re: Sternbergia 2008
« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2008, 08:04:05 PM »
Sternbergias in my meadow and bulb bed.
Sternbergia sicula
Sternbergia lutea - grows in bulb bed better.
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Re: Sternbergia 2008
« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2008, 08:20:42 PM »
Franz

Stunning  :)
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Re: Sternbergia 2008
« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2008, 08:22:07 PM »
as every your collection is jaw dropping
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Re: Sternbergia 2008
« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2008, 08:23:07 PM »
Franz - your Sternbergias are superb. What beautiful plants!
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