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Re: Leucojum
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2017, 05:51:17 PM »
Leucojum vernum var. vernum 'Null Punkte'
Leucojum vernum var. vernum
Leucojum vernum, Vagneri Group
Leucojum vernum 'Eva Habermeier'
and Leucojum vernum var. vernum 'Milly'
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Re: Leucojum
« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2017, 05:59:28 PM »
An unnamed selection with a very open flower!
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Re: Leucojum
« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2017, 10:02:22 AM »
Real beauties. :D :D :D

The white ones from the last two years flowered again. The clone from 2015 hadn't flowered since.
They all got some Boron last year and now I have 3 Flowers from the 2015.
It was last time nearly all white with very tiny yellow dots on some petals.
This time all three show light yellow dots on the outer petals and the inner ones are pure white.

The other one I found last year is again pure white. The bud had some very light yellow colour at the tip, but fade to white while opening.

The garden from the old lady which had some white flowering in it is no more. When I passed last summer there, they had started to dig it up.
I asked and was allowed  to look for Leucojum bulbs. The original stand of the white ones was already dug up and so I don't know if these bulbs are gone or not. Now there is only gravel there with a plastic foil underneath.

There are still a lot coming up  now in my small garden from there. But no white ones yet.

But I have seedlings pollinated with mine from this garden. So in some years...
« Last Edit: March 05, 2017, 11:54:07 AM by partisangardener »
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Re: Leucojum
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2017, 10:18:52 AM »
Real beauties. :D :D :D

The white ones from the last two years flowered again. The clone from 2015 hadn't flowered since.
They all got some Boron last year and now I have 3 Flowers from the 2015.
It was last time nearly all white with very tiny yellow dots on some petals.
This time all three show light yellow dots on the outer petals and the inner ones are pure white.

The other one I found last year is again pure white. The bud had some very light yellow colour at the tip, but fade to white while opening.

The garden from the old lady which had some white flowering in it is no more. When I passed last summer there, they had started to dig it up.
I asked and was allowed  to look for Leucojum bulbs. The original stand of the white ones was already dug up and so I don't know if these bulbs are gone or not. Now there is only gravel there with a plastic foil underneath.

There are still a lot coming up  now in my small garden from there. But no white ones yet.

But I have seedlings pollinated with mine from this garden. So in some years...

That's almost a real albino, really great, Axel! Superb find!
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Re: Leucojum
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2017, 10:22:01 AM »
Here two unnamed forms, one which keeps its flower closed (I think it wants to be a Galanthus) and the colour of the stamens shine through giving it a yellowish glowe just beneath the ovary.
And a very open one, almost like a claw.
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Re: Leucojum
« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2017, 10:48:23 AM »
I have not seen this long petals before.
But in a public park last year some green claws. Seems to be persistent because this year again the same kind.
The white one from last year seems to be persistant white.
there is the same plant when I got it last year
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10409.15
« Last Edit: March 05, 2017, 10:52:33 AM by partisangardener »
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Re: Leucojum
« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2017, 10:06:21 PM »
Hello
I've been tasked with starting a collection of Leucojum Vernum cultivars at work , any recommendations as to wear to acquire them would be most helpful at this stage , open to swaps, or buying them if they aren't to much money .

Thank you for your help
Emma Thick Glasshouse horticulturalist And Galanthophile, keeper of 2 snowdrop crushing French bulldogs. I have small hands , makes my snowdrops look big :D

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Re: Leucojum
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2017, 07:35:16 AM »
I had some seeds last year from white ones. But now it is too late for bulbs or seeds. Their roots start to grow latest in august here.
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Re: Leucojum
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2017, 07:56:48 AM »
Just a few named cultivars have made it into the RHS Plant Finder https://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/Search-Results?form-mode=true&query=leucojum%20vernum and only var. vagneri is obtainable.  If I remember correctly, Joe Sharman generally has a few on his printed lists.  But I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, Emma.  I'll keep my eyes open for them.  They seem to find conditions in my garden too dry. 
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Re: Leucojum
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2017, 11:48:15 AM »
A reminder to all of  this  issue of International Rock Gardener which  has an article by Wim Boens about  Leucojum  types.  It's  No. 76 of April 2016 - it has got a long list of variants and photos of them  The link for it is  http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2016Apr281461879792IRG_76.pdf
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Re: Leucojum
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2017, 01:41:01 PM »
Apart from the false believe, that they need a cold period to germinate, a very good article.
I have shown in the thread of Galanthus germination that Leucojum does germinate sometime between August and end of September in the same year, if sown at once. I had always Galanthus and Leucojum seeds at the same time under the same conditions. Leucojum was usually a bit more early. Germination not delayed to another year if seeds did not dry out.
But as with Galanthus always the little bulb first. Most of the time the first leaf comes up the same time as with the adults.
In my garden peeping up in late autumn.
Same applies to Galanthus. http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11117.0

Seeds die to a great percentage if kept dry for too long (some weeks to a few month)
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Re: Leucojum
« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2017, 06:58:15 AM »
Apart from the false believe, that they need a cold period to germinate,...Seeds die to a great percentage if kept dry for too long (some weeks to a few month).

Yes, you are right Axel, I've noticed it in the time since I wrote my article too...fresh seeds, sown immediately, germinate very early on (almost immediately after sowing) without needing cold stratification. When I wrote the article I had only ever sown dried seeds (rehydrated by soaking them in water before sowing) and those seemed only to germinate during or after winter. Rehydration of dry seeds makes more seed germinate (the germination rates of dried seeds can be very low) but never almost 100%, like with fresh seeds. I do mention it like this in my lectures now too...
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Re: Leucojum
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2018, 04:42:26 PM »
Leucojum vernum 'Null Punkte'
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Re: Leucojum
« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2018, 12:54:35 PM »
Leucojum vernum var. vagneri  makes an effort!
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Re: Leucojum
« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2018, 04:21:43 PM »
Leucojum vernum 'Null Punkte'

Wim, do you have more pictures of this year's flowerings please?
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