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Title: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: michele sadauskas on November 20, 2007, 02:49:18 AM
hello,

This is my first year as a member and am just wondering how this years seed exchange is coming along?
I am an overseas member and I am correct in that I should be automatically sent a seed list?  So far, haven't received anything....sure don't want to be left out.

michele



Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: David Nicholson on November 20, 2007, 11:18:12 AM
hello,

This is my first year as a member and am just wondering how this years seed exchange is coming along?
I am an overseas member and I am correct in that I should be automatically sent a seed list?  So far, haven't received anything....sure don't want to be left out.

michele


Hi Michele, all of the people involved in the Seed Ex are very efficient and I am sure your copy of the List will turn up in the next few weeks.If you haven't had a copy say, by mid December, and you send a private Mail to Maggi I,m sure she would be willing to follow it up for you. Yopu are right and overseas members are sent a copy automatically.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Paul Ravenhill on November 20, 2007, 05:46:39 PM
Got my seed list today, but I'm missing pages 19 to 22. anyone else? ???
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: ChrisB on November 20, 2007, 07:03:12 PM
Mine has not yet arrived, I wonder why?
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Maggi Young on November 20, 2007, 08:11:43 PM
Hi, Folks and a warm welcome to Michele.  Yes, I hear the seedlist is out and yes, i also hear  there is a problem with some pages. I have not heard yet what is to be done about this. Neither have I heard when the list will appear on the website. When it does, that should solve the missing pages problem though I realise you will want to get ordering before then!  I had hoped that the list would be send for the web at around the same time as it was posted out ...perhaps it was an there is a problem getting it online. There have been some difficulties with loading to the main site lately. I have been laid up for a couple of days but nothing seems to have come this way but I'll try to find out what I can as soon as poss.

Chris, you are not an overseas member so you would have to request your list, except that you are a Donor, I know, so should have received one. I'll follow up on that, too.

Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: ChrisB on November 20, 2007, 09:53:51 PM
Hope you are feeling better now, Maggi!  Lot of colds and flu going around just now.  I'll wait patiently for my list to appear.  Do they send it by email or snail mail?
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Maggi Young on November 21, 2007, 11:40:42 AM
Snail mail, Christine.
I have had no reply as yet from Stuart Pawley.... watch this space for news.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: ChrisB on November 21, 2007, 11:43:17 AM
Whoopeeeeeeeeeeeeee!  My list arrived this morning.  So exciting to see so many armeria seeds donated - thank you to those who did so!!!!

I know they are not as 'exciting' as some bulbs or other delicacies, but to me they really are.

And I see someone also donated seed from Diascia 'Joyce's Choice' - wonder what that will do?  Certainly won't come true, but may produce some interesting new cultivars.  If you get any and grow it, I'd love to see the result (they usually flower same year as sown).  That particular Diascia was one of the first to be shown by Jeff Hamilton on Gardener's World.  He spotted it at Chelsea where it was first exhibited.  Not exciting by today's standards, but at the time it was an important breakthrough in colour, as was D. 'Lilac Belle' both bred by Hector Harrison, who has since died.  Joyce is his wife.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: ChrisB on November 21, 2007, 11:45:06 AM
Thanks for checking Maggi.  Must be our postman takes more coffee breaks than those in other parts.  Anyhow, it arrived safely this morning.  Thanks again
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Maggi Young on November 21, 2007, 12:20:34 PM
Glad to hear it has arrived, Christine... are you missing any pages?
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: ChrisB on November 21, 2007, 12:48:53 PM
Hi Maggi, nope think they are all there, thanks Maggi.

Now to get down to my order.... lots to think about!
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Maggi Young on November 21, 2007, 01:31:39 PM
News from a distraught Stuart Pawley:
He is deeply distressed that the printer (not the usual printer) has changed the font size of the document without permission and has also contrived to produce faulty copies in about 15 per cent of the lists, with various different pages missing from different copies. 
So, the good news is that 85 per cent of you will have correct versions of the seed list but an unlucky 15 per cent will have pages missing. We will try to get the proper, complete seed list online for you to check as soon as possible but, in the meantime, if you are one of those with missing pages, email me and I will get a copy to you.
If you hear of a friend with missing pages and no email access , perhaps you could act as a go betweeen for them and we'll try to get everyone supplied with the correct document in the end!
Sincere apologies for bother caused to those with faulty copies,
Cheers,
 Maggi
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Maggi Young on November 21, 2007, 06:23:01 PM
Seedlist is online for viewing now see this page : http://www.srgc.org.uk/seed/seedlist.php

Orders must be made by paper copy, as before.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: David Nicholson on November 21, 2007, 06:39:23 PM
Mine arrived this morning also, all pages complete.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Maggi Young on November 21, 2007, 06:51:59 PM
Excellent news, David, thanks for letting us know. Happy choosing!
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: ChrisB on November 21, 2007, 06:56:36 PM
My order is now in the hands of the Royal Mail  ;D
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 21, 2007, 10:25:33 PM
Not fair, Chris!
Ours haven't arrived yet!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: ChrisB on November 21, 2007, 10:42:11 PM
Sorry Fermi, but I don't expect you'll be as keen to get armeria as I am lol.  I'm trying to get a National Collection together.  The list is now on line anyhow, so you will be able to browse the list and order now.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Cgull49 on November 21, 2007, 10:59:48 PM
The last couple of years I've requested surplus seed along with my regular request for seeds.  Rather than waiting for the post with my seed list to arrive here in Canada I wanted to submit my request for seeds using a modified 2006/07 form. Would this be acceptable?

If I do this what is the extra cost for surplus seeds?  Previously it was 2 pounds stering for each additional 20 packets.  Is this still the rate that is being charged?

As most are aware the quicker I submit my list the more likely I'll get my first choices.

Rob
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Susan Band on November 22, 2007, 09:22:51 AM
Rob,
I am pretty sure that overseas members get put to the top of the pile to componsate for the fact the post takes longer. It used to be Overseas Donor, Home donors, overseas non-donors, home non-donors, surplus seed requests.  Think it will still be the same.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Cgull49 on November 22, 2007, 05:14:50 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Susan.  I did manage to get my request for seeds in the mail last evening.  Now it's just a matter of waiting.

Although, it would be the best to get my first choices I've never been disappointed with what I've received and it's just as exciting to get something I hadn't even considered as to get something I had placed a higher priority on. The arrival of those seeds during our cold snowy winters can't help but fill me with expectations of the new growing season even if it is sometimes an additional 4 months away.

Ya have to love this country - the great north strong & free.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Rafa on November 22, 2007, 06:28:52 PM
Hello I have received mine this morning. Thank you very much to all the seed list team and specially to Stuart who has included a note in the enveloppes to conatact me in case you choose: Atropa and Lupinus species.

All the best,

Rafa.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: tonyg on November 22, 2007, 08:49:09 PM
I received mine yesterday and posted it back today.  Half my first choices were donations from Rafa - thanks Rafa for your generosity!
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Casalima on November 22, 2007, 09:13:04 PM
I got mine today - still studying it!!
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 22, 2007, 09:43:47 PM
Still no sign of the hard copy, and while I have managed to make my selection on-line (thanks, Maggi, for the link) there is no form to download to send back the requests!
Can someone post a form that we can download? I know that we have to post it back by snail-mail, but the hard copy may still be in transit!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Susan on November 23, 2007, 03:05:40 AM
I agree with Fermi.  No hard copy here yet either. Have you received yours Lesley?  Please can someone scan an order form that we could download and post off by snail mail.

Thank you,

Susan
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 23, 2007, 06:33:37 AM
I've found a copy of the 2005/2006 form which I think is the same!
If the hard copy hasn't arrived tonight I may take my cahnces and use that!

I must say a big congratualtions to the Team to actually have the Seedex list out so quickly considering the closing date for SRGC donations is the last of the major Seedexes!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Maggi Young on November 23, 2007, 11:45:19 AM
I am hoping to get a copy of the order form from this year's list to send you, but if you have an old one, please use that with a note attached to explain why! I will email you, Susan and Fermi, with a jpeg of last year's form which will help a bit meantime!!
 M
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Maggi Young on November 23, 2007, 12:27:43 PM
Good news, Folks! I have just received , from the very kind David Pilling, scans of this year's order forms, which will be of much greater use to you! Thanks, David, I am extremely grateful to you!
 M
So, if you are another SRGC Member missing your lists/pages/ etc. email me and I'll help out!
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: ChrisB on November 23, 2007, 12:35:58 PM
Isn't this organisation the best?  I don't know any other gardening org. (and I belong to the lot) that will go this far to make sure members are served.  Maggi, you are really a star!!!!
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Maggi Young on November 23, 2007, 01:06:39 PM
Thanks for your kind words, Christine, which are much appreciated. We are all volunteers in the SRGC and we do try to provide as full a service as possible... after all, it is all to enable us to enjoy the wee plants that brought us together in the first place.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: ian mcenery on November 23, 2007, 06:20:38 PM
Maggi will you also be personally delivering our seeds?  If so give me some advance warning I will bake a cake and put on the kettle   ;D


Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Maggi Young on November 23, 2007, 06:43:28 PM
Sadly not, Ian..  :-X
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Susan on November 23, 2007, 07:13:01 PM
Maggi,  Thank you so much for the forms. I can open last years, so that will do.

Ian Mc - I think she should deliver ours, it is warmer out here at the moment.  Will happily bake the cake, bring out the single malt, a good drop of New Zealand wine.  What more could a girl want.  She certainly deserves it.

Chris - I totally agree, where else could you get such co-operation so swiftly.

Thank you all.

Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Brian Duncan on November 23, 2007, 10:43:28 PM
A maiden message - stimulated by the seed list on line!
What an amazing seed list!!  Congratulations to all donors and those who had patience and took time to compile such a list for the benefit of others. Now I must seek to join the SRGC.

But a question emerges - who knows anything about the history of the name in the list N.rupicola rapiata? It's the rapiata part that is puzzling - I've been given some unverified information. Maybe the seed donor knows all the background facts?
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Gerdk on November 26, 2007, 11:42:05 AM
But a question emerges - who knows anything about the history of the name in the list N.rupicola rapiata? It's the rapiata part that is puzzling - I've been given some unverified information. Maybe the seed donor knows all the background facts?
I agree - indeed an amazing list!

Brian,
Maybe you found the same information concerning the rapiata daffodil, but if not:
There is a Narcissus Rapiata listed on 'plantnavigator.ch' (Switzerland). The source is Rare Plants UK.
I am interested in another daffodil mystery. Who found Narcissus triandrus in Morocco (No. 2565)?
Gerd
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: dominique on November 26, 2007, 02:01:27 PM
It is my first order. Where can I find the  official order form to send my order ? Next year, I will give some seeds too. Thank you
Dominique
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: tonyg on November 27, 2007, 12:06:08 AM
Dominique - hopefully one of the Scottish members will help you.  If you are a member of thr SRGC (not just of the forum community) you can request a seed order form which comes with a printed copy of the list.  As an overseas member you would get a list sent automatically.  It may be that there is someone who can 'fast-track' your membership to enable you to make an order this year. 

Come on you Scottish Rockers - help Dominique out, he is one of us :) :)
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: crazy4alpines on November 28, 2007, 11:40:44 PM
Ooopps!  Maggi can you please help me?  I was careless and failed to realize that one of my last minute surplus seed choices is an endangered species and my order is already in the mail.  It is #1190 Delphinium luteum.  I did not see a black dot next to it on the seed list and since it was a last minute inclusion to my surplus seeds list, I forgot to check the APHIS forbidden list (see the below link provided by NARGS)

https://www.nargs.org/RestrictedSeed/

Hopefully everyone else will want this delightful dwarf pastel yellow Delphinium and there won't be any seed left for the surplus seed distribution.  But others might select this for their 1st choice main seed distribution list.  Regardless, I was hoping you could have someone put a post-it note on those seeds warning not to send them to USA members.  Others might have also made this mistake due to the lack of a black dot and a note next to those seed packets might be the easiest way to address this.  I gratefully appreciate any assistance you can provide.  I appologize for my blunder and will be more diligent checking the APHIS forbidden list next year.  I am still amazed and very delighted by the wonderful selection of seeds available this year and gratefully thank all of the donors and seed exchange volunteers for their efforts.

With humility,

Steve
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Maggi Young on November 29, 2007, 11:48:39 AM
Hi, Steve,
 I will email you with an address to send your message to, with a note of your full postal adddress etc. so that the Seed Distribution team can try to pick up your order before the Delphinium gets included.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: dominique on November 29, 2007, 12:56:58 PM
Dominique - hopefully one of the Scottish members will help you.  If you are a member of thr SRGC (not just of the forum community) you can request a seed order form which comes with a printed copy of the list.  As an overseas member you would get a list sent automatically.  It may be that there is someone who can 'fast-track' your membership to enable you to make an order this year. 

Come on you Scottish Rockers - help Dominique out, he is one of us :) :)

Thank you Tony, it is made. Maggi, as always has resolved my problem !
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Susan on November 29, 2007, 09:22:38 PM
Seed list finally arrived in New Zealand.

Susan
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Carlo on November 29, 2007, 09:59:04 PM
Still don't have mine (despite the fact that AGS has been here and is out the door already...).
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Susan on November 29, 2007, 10:25:07 PM
Haven't received AGS and when I last looked at their site there was no current seed list on it.  Off now to have a look.


Susan
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 30, 2007, 06:06:35 AM
Finally received the hard copy of the SRGC Seed list yesterday! Just as well that I used the form Maggi supplied!
AGS arrived two days ago. No sign of NARGS yet, but they usually make it sometime closer to Christmas!
What a fun time of year! Myopically searching the lists, checking the web for pics and poring over reference books;fun, fun, fun,fun,fun!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: t00lie on November 30, 2007, 09:11:41 AM
Fermi ---as i tend to keep previous years lists which i peruse at my leisure ,(using reference books ,web and NZ biosecurity info),during winter ,i already have a 'must have' list waiting for the current bulletins.

Saves time but the system relies on your 'must haves' appearing in the following years list.Not a problem if some of them don't as i find the list always remains far larger than what can be requested.!!!--Big smile.

Susan--- AGS seed bulletin arrived 8-00 am mail this morning.Posted back at 1.15 pm today after completion over lunch.
It's arrival was a pleasant surprise.I'm not too sure of when the financial year ends for any of the big 3 societies but i've been a bit slack this year as i only got round to renewing my membership of NARGS and AGS by the web last week ,(SRGC is via a revolving credit subscription thingie??? or whatever it is called-- actioned automatically ).I therefore had presumed my tardiness would require some follow up from my end.
Fingers crossed for NARGS .

Lunch made --pack loaded--*camera ready--early morning start tomorrow---WOO HOO !!!!!!!!,(sounds like i'm suffering from a bad case of cabin fever) --first proper field trip of the season--,--- and a nice sunny day forecast.
* I might just follow Lesley around in the hope she repeats,(and this time can be recorded), her act of a few years back where upon having her gumboots stuck fast in a bog she collapsed face down into an alpine cushion and had to be rescued --out of her boots.

Pics of the day and any action to follow.

Cheers Dave.

   
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: David Nicholson on November 30, 2007, 09:30:48 AM
........* I might just follow Lesley around in the hope she repeats,(and this time can be recorded), her act of a few years back where upon having her gumboots stuck fast in a bog she collapsed face down into an alpine cushion and had to be rescued --out of her boots.

Pics of the day and any action to follow.

Cheers Dave.
   

A sight worth seeing Dave! ;D
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: t00lie on November 30, 2007, 10:27:47 AM
Quote-"A sight worth seeing Dave! Grin"

I'm a bit worried David cos if it does happen i'm sure the shots will show a heck of a lot of camera shake.

Now will that be because ---of my concern for LCs health, --or the thought of the money,(blackmail),i'm going to receive --or maybe just the humour of the whole thing.

I'll leave you to make an educated guess.

Actually as i'm writing this for some reason,(probably as a defense to how the above might be received), i keep coming back to these following words ,(from a British comedian ,the late Dick Emery in one of his characters as he crossed and uncrossed his legs)-- "all in the best possible taste"

Big big smile.

Good night --
Dave.     
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Andrew on November 30, 2007, 05:31:52 PM
British comedian ,the late Dick Emery in one of his characters as he crossed and uncrossed his legs-- "all in the best possible taste"

Dave

Kenny Everett ?
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: David Nicholson on November 30, 2007, 06:21:39 PM
Andrew's right Dave it was Kenny not Dick Emery.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 30, 2007, 09:53:26 PM
Dick Emery was 'Oo you are awful, but I like you'.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: t00lie on December 01, 2007, 08:41:09 AM
Oops..... thanks guys .

My memory --well in fact our memories aren't what they used to be ,as i'm positive i asked 'she who will be obeyed 'whether i had the right comedian or not prior to posting last night.

Plenty of pics taken on the trip today --will post over the next day or two .

Good night
Dave.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: David Pilling on December 01, 2007, 12:22:04 PM
Hi,

An oddity is that the AGS seed exchange application form asks for 23 selections (non-donors) or 30 selections (donors) but provides 24 or 31 boxes.

So filling in all the boxes results in an extra choice.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Gene Mirro on December 03, 2007, 02:59:25 AM
As a first-year member and a seed donor for 2007, I am still on a pretty steep learning curve.  I didn't get my printed seed list until a couple of days ago, so I sent in a "homemade" order form about a week ago.  I just got the printed seed list, and I see that there is an order form for surplus seeds.  Can I send that in with another "small lots of seed" permit?  Or did it have to go in with the original order?  Thanks for your advice.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Diane Whitehead on December 03, 2007, 05:36:47 AM
The NARGS list comes a lot later than the Scottish and AGS lists.
I used to count on receiving it just before Christmas, but not
recently.  However, the seeds arrive very quickly.

Here are the most recent dates, working backwards from last year:

list arrived Jan 3 (but it was online before this), seeds arrived Jan 16
list Dec 30 - seeds Jan 20
list Jan 13 - seeds Jan 27

 :-\   The NARGS surplus seeds arrive late,
though, and I have just discovered the 60 packets that I received
sometime in April, 2004!!  April is not a good month for sowing
so many packets  - I am totally involved with plant sales, flower
shows, potting on the basil, peppers, tomatoes etc.  I guess I just
stuck the envelope out of the way for a bit - and lost track of them.
They were sown yesterday, and it will be interesting to see how many
germinate.

Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Ian Y on December 03, 2007, 11:00:49 AM
Gene, strictly speaking , the  surplus order should go in with the main but send yours in, with a note, and a second small seed lot permit.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: David Pilling on December 03, 2007, 12:21:19 PM
The impression I have is that the SRGC exchange works on the basis of accumulating orders until a certain date (guess - January 2008) at which point a computer analyses all the orders and works out who gets what.

The AGS on the other hand appears to be first come first served.

If that is right, there's no need to rush with SRGC orders.

Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Ian Y on December 03, 2007, 01:27:58 PM
SRGC seed ex distribution works on this basis.... first, overseas donors, second, home donors, next overseas non donors, then home non donors then surplus.... ALL ORDERS MUST BE RECEIVED BEFORE  15th JANUARY 2008.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: fermi de Sousa on December 04, 2007, 03:50:23 AM
I've just heard from Laura Serowicz (the NARGS Seed Intake Manager) and they are just finalizing the list so we should see it in the not too distance future.
Having done the SRGC and the AGS ones already, it gives us a breathing space before we start poring over the lists and the references all over again!
These 3 are (to me) the main seedexes and do an amazing job with selfless dedication by teams of volunteers. I know we here in the Antipodes have made complaints about missing out on "choice" items from the lists (anyone here ever got Tecophilea?) because of the sheer distances and the time it takes for the mail to be delivered.
But overall I'm happy to participate in the system and always rejoice when some long awaited "rarity" comes into flower!
cheers
fermi

Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Ian Y on December 04, 2007, 10:11:33 AM
Just to add some insight to the way the SRGC seed exchange works - the list is made up from the donations before the seed is split into individual packets.
With some of the rarer plants there may only be 5 packets or less.
It is also possible that when the packeters go to work the seed of that rare and sought after plant may be sterile or obviously wrongly named so no packets are available.

I must admit that I keep and sow all my own Tecophilea seed and never send it to the exchange.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Joakim B on December 11, 2007, 10:56:36 PM
Great thanks to the donors and the people working to make this wonderful thing happen :)
I enjoy reading in the seed list and compare names from the forum with that I wanted and then change and rechange.

Now to my question which of the following seed could be sown in pots outside under roof if need at the time of arrival of the seeds?
It will be in Portugal with temps 10C as average temp with 5C as night temp and 15C as day temp.
Aquilegia
Colchicum
Crocus
Cyclamen
Habaranthus
Helleborus
Hepatica
Iris
Lachenalia
Morea
Paeonia
Primula
Sparaxis
Zephyranthes

I understand that it may vary within a genus but hope to get a general answer so that I do not get seed that I will just destroy due to lack of proper growing conditions.
I also wonder if the germination of the above are good or if it takes a long time and only a few will germinate.
Sorry for the big question but I have tried to look around here but people are using so different techniques it is hard to get what can be done.

Kind regards from a sunny Portugal
Joakim
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Carlo on December 11, 2007, 11:22:43 PM
Joakim,

In Portugal I'd put them ALL in pots outside. Some of those you listed need a cool period, none will suffer from being outside in cooler temperatures of YOUR winter.

Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Joakim B on December 12, 2007, 08:17:56 AM
great thanks Carlo
I was thinking some might need to be sown inside for a time to get started before going out but now I can happily ask for the seeds and see what happens. :)

Carlo are You interested in public gardens even if they are not alpine? I could tell a bit about the ones I have been to but do not know it they are on any top 100 list but they might be best in the area. For example Lund, Sweden Aarhus Denmark and a few in Coimbra Portugal.

Kind regards
Joakim
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Carlo on December 12, 2007, 10:22:55 AM
I think public gardens would be a great new topic for the forum. I've got a list of public rock gardens on my website that Maggi mentioned here a while ago, but we needn't restrict our discussion to rock gardens.

I've seen several in Portugal that are very interesting--and many of our forumists seem to travel (more extensively than I).  I'm sure a lively discussion will result...
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: gote on December 17, 2007, 08:43:29 AM
My big problem with the SRGC seed list is that I want to have it all. Obviously I have to find the most desirable sixteen. Then I have to decide which are the second most desirable numbers and put them in as extra numbers. Then I have to somehow decide upon any surplus numbers.
The best way for me to do this would be to put the whole list into Excel (or some other similar program). I could then look through the whole list and put a rating for each one that I am interested in and sort the list.
This would facilitate the creation of a “short list” enormously. I do it this way for lists that I can easily convert into Word or Excel.
The list is available on the web but as pdf file. This is a type of file that is intentionally designed with the purpose of preventing this helpful use of the data in the file. It is possible to use OCR-software to unravel the mysteries of the pdf file and turn it into Excel, Word or whatever. However, the seed list is unusually awkward for this procedure. It is not impossible, however so the idea that pdf protects copyrights or whatever against evil-doers is futile.   
If the Distribution form would be available as Word-file it would be easy to fill it out with clearly printed figures and any corrections would be easy and free from smudge.
So:
Please, please:  Do not use the pdf file type for the seed list on the web and please give the form(s) as Word file(s)
The list is most likely created in another form anyway so why complicate matters by converting to pdf?
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you. 
Göte
(And the obvious thank you to all who work with the list)
   
 
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Thomas Huber on December 17, 2007, 10:17:15 AM
Göte, it should be no problem for you to convert the pdf file into word or excel by copy and paste!
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: David Nicholson on December 29, 2007, 10:23:32 AM
My Main Order arrived in this morning's post and I only missed out on one packet. I'm very pleased, and I was pleased with the replacement packet as well.

Sincere thanks to Alan Hayes, Stuart Pawley (whose notes in the Seed Distribution List brighten my Novembers!) and to all the unknown packers and dispatchers, your efforts are very much appreciated. Sincere thanks too to all those who donate seed.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Maggi Young on December 29, 2007, 12:16:59 PM
Congratulations, David! I had no idea the Gang had started on the distribution, I was told it would all be taking place in January......there must be early birds working the late (year) shift! Bless 'em! :D :) :D
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: ChrisB on December 29, 2007, 01:07:50 PM
Well done everyone!  My seeds arrived this morning and all but one are those I ordered too.  I'm thrilled, yet again!  Happy New Year (and seed sowing) everyone.  Mine are now in the fridge.  Got a trug for Christmas and have filled it with mole hill soil to be used with my mix when I sow my seed.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: fermi de Sousa on January 10, 2008, 06:31:57 AM
Will's seeds arrived this week but mine haven't! Probably still sitting on a desk in the Quarantine Office!  Everything we chose was on the allowed list so there shouldn't be any problems though!
Thanks to all the Seedex Team!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Cgull49 on January 10, 2008, 03:07:52 PM
I received my seeds yesterday and got all but one of my first choices. As mentioned previously by others I'm quite happy with the replacement packet.  Thanks again to the SeedEx team.  I appreciate all your efforts.

I received a packet of Lewisia redivivia which I requested but the packet seems to be empty - I haven't opened it yet.  Is there someone that is familiar with the seed of this plant that can describe the seed?  Is it very small and relatively transparent?  Did the seed escape from the packet, although there was nothing I saw in the bubble pack? Or, was the seed not put into this packet in the first place?  No action is required - I'm just interested to find out what may have happened?

Looking forward to sowing my newly arrived species.

Rob
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 10, 2008, 04:34:29 PM
Hi Rob

Lewisia Rediviva seed should be almost black, quite shine, and round, measuring approx. 1 mm.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Cgull49 on January 11, 2008, 06:07:51 PM
Luc thanks.  I'll check, but I'm not holding my breath.

Rob
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: dominique on January 13, 2008, 09:34:18 AM
As new one at the SRGC, it is the first time I participe to seed exchange. I have received the 16 seeds taxons I had asked, but not those in supplement (for 6€). I suppose they come after all the first choices are send or is it an error?
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: David Nicholson on January 13, 2008, 09:46:54 AM
As new one at the SRGC, it is the first time I participe to seed exchange. I have received the 16 seeds taxons I had asked, but not those in supplement (for 6€). I suppose they come after all the first choices are send or is it an error?

Supplementary choices come later.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: dominique on January 14, 2008, 12:07:52 AM
Thank you David
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Linda_Foulis on January 18, 2008, 03:57:11 AM
Did anyone else get #1957 Hippeastrum elwesii?  I don't think it is what it says it is.  ???
H. elwesii is not on any of the species lists nor is it Veronica Read's book.  I can't confirm it but the seed more resembles an albuca seed or maybe cyrtanthus?  Also it has germinated much faster than any hippeastrum seed I've ever started, in only 4 days. 

Very odd, any ideas?
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Diane Clement on January 22, 2008, 01:09:57 PM
Did anyone else get #1957 Hippeastrum elwesii?  I don't think it is what it says it is.  ???
H. elwesii is not on any of the species lists nor is it Veronica Read's book.  I can't confirm it but the seed more resembles an albuca seed or maybe cyrtanthus?  Also it has germinated much faster than any hippeastrum seed I've ever started, in only 4 days. 
Very odd, any ideas?

Hippeastrum elwesii is a synonym for Rhodophiala elwesii.  All (I think?) South American Hippeastrums were split into Rhodophiala a few years ago.  Here's a link with another link at the bottom of the first section to a posting by Alberto Castillo

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Rhodophiala

I hope Alberto will be able to give us more information now he is on this forum  ;)
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: David Nicholson on January 23, 2008, 07:25:09 PM
Got the second tranche of my Seed Exchange requests this morning-wonderful. Again many thanks to all those invoved in what must be a difficult logistical exercise.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: ChrisB on January 23, 2008, 07:42:46 PM
Me too David.  I even got one or two of the random ones that I had sent in lol.  I'll pass them on to others in our Belford Group!  Yes, yes, must be a lot of work.  Now I must sow them all to make it all worth their while.  I've already sown 80 packets of seed, with more still to do, before these arrived.  Lots of work ahead of me now... and it won't be long until spring starts to happen.  Must get my skates on.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Martijn on January 30, 2008, 05:54:59 PM
Just received the my first choice...

I was very late (after closing date) but nevertheless received many very nice items like Penstemon uintahensis and Edraianthus horvatii....search for pictures a realise what you may have missed.. ;D

What a very good service!

Martijn

Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Rafa on January 31, 2008, 07:31:02 PM
Hello, I have received the surplus list today. I am extremely happy and gratefull!!

Thank you for all this hard work!
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Ezeiza on January 31, 2008, 10:15:11 PM
Hi Diane:

                Well, that introduction was an explanation on how you "split" the genus Rhodophiala according to their cultivation requirements.

                 They are right in that Veronica does not include it in Hippeastrum because here in South America we regard it as a "good" genus different from Hippeastrum.

                  A short description on the climate for R. elwesii in the wild: first rains in autumn, when it produces the new roots but no leaves, then snow falls and covers the region until the spring defrost , then some spring rains when the plants is in flower. And a dry mild summer. Even tho days can be quite hot at night it is pretty cool.

                  It seems I have been describing the cycle for tulips, don't you think? Well, very similar. The foliage is hardy to zone 8 but bulbs may not be so and give some nasty surprise. Exposure is in full sun and grows in sandy gritty hillsides.

                   I am sure it can be grown well in England and would take well to any region that lets it follow the natural pattern described above. Rhodophialas are not the fastest growing plants in the galaxy but are extremely long lived. Something very important is to plant the bulbs as deep as you can, best if at the very bottom of the pot.

Hope this is of help..

Regards

                 
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: grannysmith on February 12, 2008, 10:45:47 PM
I was wondering if everyone in Ausie has got their main seeds. I havent received mine as yet.  :(
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: kaydale on February 12, 2008, 11:04:24 PM
I got my main lot of seed about three weeks ago!  I also got my surplus seed last week.  Two friends here on the NW coast have both got their main seed, but one hasn't got her surplus yet but AQIS could have held it up.  I hope you get your seed soon  :)
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: rob krejzl on February 12, 2008, 11:16:35 PM
Marj,

Got mine back on the 11th of Jan.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: grannysmith on February 13, 2008, 01:47:18 AM
I know of others who have had it for weeks too, thats why I was wondering. OI am glad you got yours Rob and Kaydale (is that Kaydale Lodge?) It makes me feel real good. :(
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: kaydale on February 13, 2008, 03:38:07 AM
Marjorie, yes it's Kaydale Lodge :)  I hope you get your seed soon!
Lesley
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: grannysmith on February 27, 2008, 12:55:21 AM
Joy O Joy!!! Seed finally arrived today and only minus 3 pkts to quarantine, so that a bonus. Thanks so much to all involved. It is so exciting to get them, now comes the planting. ;D
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: Maggi Young on February 27, 2008, 01:06:44 AM
Oh, Marj, that is good news. Happy sowing!!
Title: Re: 2007/2008 seed exchange
Post by: fermi de Sousa on February 27, 2008, 01:47:50 AM
Hi Marjorie,
which seed was taken?
It's always worth checking because sometimes a name has been changed and it may be allowed in under a synonym.
I had 6 packets removed from one lot and when I queried it 5 were allowed to be sent on to me!
cheers
fermi
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