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Bulbs => NARCISSUS => Topic started by: Phill on January 12, 2013, 06:12:31 AM
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Does anybody know of a commercial source for this delightful little Narcissus?
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It's January
try it in August again
Roland
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Does anybody know of a commercial source for this delightful little Narcissus?
Try Anne Wright when her new list comes out - about June:
http://www.dryad-home.co.uk (http://www.dryad-home.co.uk)
There are photos on her 'gallery'.
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Thanks very much gents.
All the best,
Phill Austen.
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I think Anne got it from me. No commercial outlets. Sadly the breeder/finder passed on last year
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Alas, I only have a few bulbs so far, so it won't be in my list for a couple of years.
Unfortunately, inclusion in my gallery photos is not an indication of availability (if only...) Worth asking though.
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I need to chip or twinscale all of mine. Bloomin Narcissus fly got some of mine last year
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With me Fairy Gold seems rather prone to rot. I got it from Avon Bulbs some years ago and built it up into a nice clump which then went right back due to rot. I chipped the surviving bulbs but the resulting small bulblets also seem to be prone to rotting, so that I now only have a handful of little ones growing on.
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Think maybe I'lll also try some in the garden
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Martin
I thought that Narcissus fairy gold was a N. cyclamineus hybrid
then I can't imagine that moisture is the problem
they like a little moisture spot
Roland
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I had it for five years before taking advice to plant deeper (it was not increasing with any enthusiasm) and that was the last that I saw of it! I greatly regret losing this dainty little cultivar, and I would like the oportunity to try again. Does anybody know of other potential sources?
Phill.
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Think maybe I'lll also try some in the garden
Is the pic on Daffseek not of your plants.
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Narcissus cyclamineus grown from seed here in the garden
grows only a few cm deep
Roland
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Yes David
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A different sort of query please.
I have a little daffodil of my own (below) which I want to register. Yes, there are others very like it but it's great difference is that it is so prolific. One of a batch of seedlings from 'Gambas,' all flowered with either 'Gambas'-like flowers or similar to this one, but in their second year, made another flower or occasionally two. This one made 7 flowers on its second flowering and when I lifted it, it divided into 7 good bulbs all of which grew on and multiplied and flowered again the following year. Of course the bulbs can be chipped but I think this natural vigour is worth encouraging so I would like to register and name it.
Every name I've thought appropriate seems to be used already so short of 'Bonnie Lesley' which I can't see as a used name, but seems a bit boastful, I'm thinking of using my mother's name, Alison. There are other Alisons but not on its own so far as I can see. I must admit to finding Daffseek rather a mountain to be climbed, and I haven't the nouse to go there, so - can anyone tell me, is the name 'Alison' already used for a Narcissus? If it is I can try Alison Barron or Alison Edgar, (Ma's maiden name) or even Alison May (her second name), but I like the single word.
Yours in the post today Anne. :)
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Have a look here Lesley
http://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/plant-science/plant-registration/daffodils (http://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/plant-science/plant-registration/daffodils)
Roland
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Thanks Roland for your quick reply. I see there are two registered as 'Alison' which must be confusing. I'll go with my daughter's name, 'Susan Cox.'
So here it is, to be registered as Narcissus 'Susan Cox.' :) This picture shows just two bulbs.
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I made it 3 x "Alisons" Lesley plus a further 5 with added surnames attached.
Lovely little Daff by the way and well worth registering
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Very nice, Lesley, and I wholeheartedly agree with naming bulb cultivars (be they daffs, snowdrops, crocus or whatever) because they're healthy, strong growing and fast-increasing, even if they're not a million miles away from previously named cultivars (especially if those earlier ones are less strong growing and/or slow to increase).
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I put your picture on my facebook site
and the first reactions are very positive
Roland
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Thanks Roland for your quick reply. I see there are two registered as 'Alison' which must be confusing. I'll go with my daughter's name, 'Susan Cox.'
So here it is, to be registered as Narcissus 'Susan Cox.' :) This picture shows just two bulbs.
Just lovely, Lesley. Vigour is everything really and to have a good-lookig flower that offers to grow so well is super .
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That's a lovely one Lesley.
12-15 cm tall?
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Lovely plant Lesley
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Thank you everyone. As it starts to flower it is about 10cms high and when well on in its season is maybe 15cms. This year for the first time I had seed from it which I'll sow because I DO. The results could be anything at all as the pot of this one was one of many pots of daffs and other bulbs ready for moving, so the possibilities of crossing from another small daff are quite high I should imagine. Time will tell.
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:-* :-* I wish there was a 'jumping up and down with excitement' emoticon. Many thanks, Lesley, it will be treasured. It looks like a cracker.
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You mean this??
(http://www.animated-smileys.com/smileys/garden/animated-smileys-garden-018.gif)
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Fairy Gold
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How deep do you have your Fairy Gold's Mark
R
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'Fairy Gold' is very pretty. I didn't know it until this thread. Good to see the flowers.
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Hi Lesley
25 people already like your little daffodil
see: Narcissus Susan Cox (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=462502680465373&set=a.452525218129786.95894.452518118130496&type=1&theater)
Roland
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Looks like I'd better bulk it up then and get someone to market it. ;D
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You mean this??
(http://www.animated-smileys.com/smileys/garden/animated-smileys-garden-018.gif)
Just the thing!
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'Fairy Gold' is very pretty. I didn't know it until this thread. Good to see the flowers.
I think that "Susan Cox" is it's equal, and if it proves to be more vigourous, superior. I have a weakness for any narcissus that have a long parrallel trumpet (I cannot look at Peeping Tom without feeling my face produce an involuntary smile). For me, a miniature Peeping Tom would be perfection.
phill
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This brings me Phill, to a thought that is quite important. 'Peeping Tom' is, I'm sure in New Zealand and probably has been for many years, though I've not come across it myself. However, the last couple of years, bulbs have been brought in from Holland, by local wholesalers and offered in garden centres. The usual practice is to import the bulbs at their dormant time and either chill them until our planting time 6 months later, or, I believe some now are chilled for the same time, in Holland before sending here. The theory is that this will delay growth until it is the bulb's natural time to grow on the other side of the world.
I believe this is bad practice for many types of bulbs, including Narcissus. I've twice bought 'Peeping Tom' from such importations, (early 2011 and 2012). Some of the bulbs didn't come up at all and those that did either didn't flower or flowered short and badly formed. They then rotted.
In my opinion, and it is just that but based on my own experience of 50 years of importing small numbers of bulbs, it is better to buy the bulbs at the right northern time then plant them right away, either in pots or in the garden, somewhere well drained and controllable. Yes, the bulbs will flower out of season but they are still able to take on strength from the compost or soil and maintain their original vigour. By the second season, most are successfully turned around and flower at the right southern time.
I've rarely imported Narcissus from the northern hemisphere but Crocus, Iris, both Reticulate and Juno and Erythronium respond very well to this method, Cyclamen less so, but still better than being chilled and held out of a growing medium. This latter seems only to rob the bulbs of whatever nutrients they are holding so one eventually plants a weakened and even, maybe partly shrivelled bulb.
I mention all this here because while we in the southern hemisphere are very well aware and concious of the half year's difference in our respective growing times, I am constantly surprised that many in the NH have never thought of such a thing and assume that what goes from one side of the world to the other will automatically acclimatize to local conditions instantly. It doesn't. Just as I, going from a NZ summer to an English winter would take appropriate clothing for that change, the plants too, have to make changes. In my experience, plants which grow all year round, i.e. are evergreen, herbaceous, or even trees, are much easier to acclimatize to the seasonal change than are bulbs which have clearly defined growing and dormant seasons. So if you do receive material from the south, be aware that it will perform "out of the norm" for one or maybe two years before fully adjusting to its new world.
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This is also my experience
I always keep the bulbs (planting direct after the bulbs arrive) two years free of frost
some sleep 1,5 year other start growing fast
and yes the evergreen ones are the easiest
Roland