Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
Specific Families and Genera => Saxifraga => Topic started by: Leiomerus on January 11, 2013, 11:02:33 PM
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Some Saxes start to flower, but much, much too early.
1/ for instance, Saxifraga 'Antonio Vivaldi' started to flower TWO months later last year.
2/ Saxifraga 'Allendale Billows' is always an early bird, but not that early.
Many others are full of buds, and now it starts freezing.....
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I recently bought a parcel of plants from Gerd Stopp in Germany and included with them were two Saxes I know nothing at all about:-
Saxifraga candelabrum
S. presolanensis
I would really like some growing tips please. Also included was S. kusnezowiana which I think is a Kabshcia type, would this be better in a pot or could I risk it in a trough please.
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Well, I can tell you what is said about them in Malcolm McG's book :
S. candelabrum is in the section Rosulares. Stems 5- 38cm up to 30 flowers leaves 6 x 1.4cm
petals 6.1 x 3.1mm flowers yellow with orange-red or purple spots 2000 to 4200m in Sichuan, Yunnan
S. presolanensis Subsection Holophyllae, series Sedoides . Somewhat intermediate between series Muscoidieae because of the foliage, and series Sedoides, because of the inlorescence and flowers.
From a small aea to the north of Lake Iseo in northern Italy. Off-white flowers often marked greeny-yellow. Leaves 1.0x0.25cm Flower stem 6 to 10cm 2 to 8 flowers with notched petals 4 x 1.25 mm
S. kusnezowianum is a Kabschia type. Also known as S. juniperifolia. Spiny, glossy leaves to 13x2.5mm
7 to 12 Yellow flowers( petals to 6 x 3mm ) in dense head, stamens and styles prominently exerted.. Flower stems hairy, to 4cm . Caucasus, northeast Turkey, Bulgaria
That any help?
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Yeh, thanks for that Maggi. I have the book but lent it out and can't for the life of me remember who to >:(
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I recently bought a parcel of plants from Gerd Stopp in Germany and included with them were two Saxes I know nothing at all about:-
Saxifraga candelabrum
S. presolanensis
I would really like some growing tips please. Also included was S. kusnezowiana which I think is a Kabshcia type, would this be better in a pot or could I risk it in a trough please.
Hello David,
I have those plants, I grow the first two in a pot and the kusnezowiana grows in a tufa rock.
S. candelabrum and S. presolanesis are sensitive and I keep them in a pot with permanent raincover, from the last I have a few cuttings and will try it in a tufa rock too.
By the way, this is the website from Bart Moerland, a friend of my, who has a specialised Saxifraga nursery, he has a website too and you can find information about many Saxifraga's.
http://www.alpigena-saxifrages.nl (http://www.alpigena-saxifrages.nl)
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Gert, many thanks indeed for the growing information, and thank you too for details of Bart's Web Site which I shall take a look at later.
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Saxifraga 'Sissi' just bought at Discussion Weekend last year, now in one of my sinks
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'Sissi' is a very beautiful Sax. but I'm surprised that it flowers now already.
Here it has started freezing again, so the buds have to wait for a better time to open. ;)
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Saxifraga 'Sissi' just bought at Discussion Weekend last year, now in one of my sinks
Very pretty Chris.
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Saxifraga Sissi
Saxifraga Allendale Jin
Saxifraga Coolock Gem
Saxifraga Godiva (x gloriana)
Saxifraga Peter Burrow
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Saxifraga ? Label lost.
Saxifraga? label lost
Sax in raised bed
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A few pictures of yesterday, now we have snow.
Saxifraga burseriana 'Major'
Saxifraga unguipetala, some discussion about this plant/name, but I keep it under this name till ......
Saxifraga lowndesi -GS11-, a species from the Himalaya, not always easy, but now lots af flower (buds).
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Super plants and pics.
Saxifraga oppositifolia
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Two Saxifraga oppositifolia in flower, the first is the earliest flowering 'Ecrins form' and the second is my own clon 'Col du Pourtalet 1'.
Collected on the Col du Pourtalet in the Pyrenees, I found 3 forms, and this is best flowering form.
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After a period with frost and no snow the Saxifrages look fine:
Saxifraga sp. SEP 45
Saxifraga sp. SEP 164
Growing in a trough with a little more peat.
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Hmm, some look fine, but if we wait for a little better weather most will look much better.
1/ Sax. lowndesii in a little stone pot
2/ Sax. 'Golem' has suffered from the cold and the snow, but has some more buds to compensate.
3/ This is the home of many Saxes, today the glacier was almost melted away.
4/ Saxifraga oppositifolia 'Latina', a warm name against the still cold weather.
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David Attenborough made a serious "blue" last night in our screening of his generally excellent programme "Kingdom of Plants." He showed what he called a sempervivum (v eye vum? surely veevum) but in fact it was Saxifraga grisebachii, the form we know as 'Wisley.' I guess he was repeating what he'd been told by someone but since the filming was in the Kew Alpine House at the time, someone should have known better!
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But also the Saxifraga vive para siempre!
I remember an episode in the British TV show with the character Detective Sergeant Jim Bergerac cleared a suspicious death of someone growing all kind of herbs. He (or was it she?) turned out to be poisoned by Deadly Nightshade - somebody had translated that to deadly nitrate (in Norwegian)! and the whole point of the story was lost ;D
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Saxifraga 'Jupiter'
Saxifraga aff. lowndesii -TJR736/02-
Saxifraga Állendale Fairy' growing in a tufastone
Saxifraga 'Marilyn Monroe'
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Saxifraga 'Henry Rousseau'
Saxifraga 'Zlaty Kun'
Saxifraga unifevolata, a specie from the Caucasus
Saxifraga unguipetala
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Saxifraga 'Kampa'
Saxifraga 'Elvis Presley'
Saxifraga 'Eros'
Saxifraga 'Quarrywood'
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Just back from the Sax weekend at waterperry - unfortunately I forgot my camera ::)
I bought a S. landaueri "Leonore" although looking on Sax sites that might be "Leonora"
The other one I got I've not been able to find, S. "Rosaleen" - anyone know anything about it?
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I recently bought a parcel of plants from Gerd Stopp in Germany and included with them were two Saxes I know nothing at all about:-
David - I am intrigued did you buy a parcel of mixed plants without knowing what was in it or have I completely mis-understood. Sounds quite exciting, a bit like a lucky dip
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Some years ago we bought one of Gerd Stopp's Christmas special parcels- you don't know what you'll get, just the number of plants. Every one was a little gem , they really were- it was great fun too.
Gerd Stopp
Shakespearestr. 10
09127 Chemnitz
GERMANY
Tel: +49 371 772007
Fax: +49 371 7750623
Gerd Stopp <gerd.stopp@t-online.de> - not sure if this email works or not.
See list from 2012 here : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=2493.msg255896#msg255896 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=2493.msg255896#msg255896)
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That sounds like fun and good for someone like me who is new to alpines so struggles to choose :) Hope the list is made available this year
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David - I am intrigued did you buy a parcel of mixed plants without knowing what was in it or have I completely mis-understood. Sounds quite exciting, a bit like a lucky dip
Yes, I did exactly that. I didn't know what I would get but I knew from the experience of other Forumists that anything grown and sold by Gerd Stopp would be worth buying. As did Maggi I bought one of his Christmas specials. Gerd Stopp doesn't have a Web Site and doesn't appear to like emails either and he produces two Lists each year. His main list (and I forget the timing of this) and his Christmas List. I'll let you have copies of them TPG when I get them.
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Many thanks David I would really appreciate that :)
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Yes, now it is spring. Saxifraga season starts in the open garden.
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Two more, others wait for sun
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Very nice indeed K-D. Some of mine here but maybe a little past their best.
Saxifraga oppositifolia 'Theoden'
S. x boydilacina 'Alan Martin'
S. 'Peach Melba'
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I see that Saxifrages are proving very popular this year in the pages of the French Forum, Plantes Passions - with some help from familiar "faces" here! ;)
http://plantes-passion.forumactif.fr/t4649-saxifraga-2013 (http://plantes-passion.forumactif.fr/t4649-saxifraga-2013)
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Yes Maggi, but you have to speak a little bit French for that .... ;D
Here some Saxes in Melle, but it's still very cold over here, so the development of the saxifrages goes very slowly.
1/ Saxifraga 'Cio-cio-san', a very nice one with stemless flowers of a nice shape and colour.
2/ This is Saxifraga 'Allendale Charm' opening its flowers. This one had the protection of a big marble rock, so it seems unharmed. But the nice 'Allendale Charm' from last year in the gutter, has several damaged and frozen buds and flowers. :'(
3/ Saxifraga 'Tenerife' is mostly shown on the show bench filling enormous stone pots. This is a more modest one growing in a little rock garden made of sandstone.
4/ Saxifraga burseriana 'John Tomlinson' squeezed between some rocks and with wonderful flowers, but some animal likes these flowers too.
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Some more Saxes :
1/ Saxifraga x polulacina 'Cathy Read' in my sandstone rock garden.
2/ Also in the same rock garden, Saxifraga 'Cumulus', one of the best Saxes ever.
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Now some Saxes that are growing INSIDE the sandstone.
1/ Saxifraga x poluanglica 'Red Poll', has to open some more flowers, but I like it already.
2/ Full of promise : Saxifraga 'Tvuj Usmev' and the sandstone is to its liking.
5 degrees Celsius today, it was really hot. ???
Of course, if you are used to 2 degrees ......
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You have a cracking collection Leiomerus.
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Thanks David, I do my best.
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Saxifraga "Coolock Kate" (left) and "Mary Golds" enjoying eachother's company on a tufa rock !
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Lovely plants Luc.
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Saxifraga x Excellence
Saxifraga Allendale Beauty
Saxifraga x Citronella
Saxifraga x Lilac Time
Saxifraga x Rubens
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Saxifraga x Narden
Saxifraga x J.W. Goethe
Saxifraga x Amedeo Modigliani
Saxifraga x marcela
Saxifraga x Jan Neruda
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Hello Yann, good that you grow these nice Saxes.
I'm not sure your first picture is the right plant, but I know for sure the name is Saxifraga 'Excellent'.
Here is a picture of my Sax. 'Excellent'
Saxifraga 'Paul Rubens' is also the right name.
Same case for Saxifraga NCC 'Naarden'
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I have also a picture of Saxifraga x megaseaeflora 'Jan Neruda', growing in a stone pot.
The second one is Saxifraga x megaseaeflora 'Humoreska', growing in the marble rock garden.
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Here is also one I like a lot, it's Saxifraga x poluanglica 'Red Poll'
The first picture is a plant growing inside a little hole of a sandstone.
The second photo is one from a 'Red Poll' in a little rock garden.
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I've check the name on the pots and label, i wrote Excellence. i don't know if made a mistake...
you own a nice collection of sax
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Saxifraga x kellereri 'Suendermannii Major' (S. burseriana x S. sempervivum )
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A few more
Saxifraga anormalis
Saxifraga boeckeleri
Saxifraga Judith Shackleton
Saxifraga Jupiter
Saxifraga oppositifolia ssp paradoxa
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Saxifraga oppositifolia with Draba dedeana
Saxifraga Winifred
Saxifraga x apiculata Gregoer Mendel
Saxifraga x elisabethae Forsters Gold
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My saxifragas seem to have survived their drowning in December. They were more damaged by scorching and possible lack of water when I was away at the end of May last year.
Saxifraga cinerea
Saxifraga 'Redpoll'
Saxifraga Quarry Wood'
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Roma and Klaus-Dieter
Many thanks for the pictures of your fine saxifragas, their lovely flowers
are heart- warming after the long and dark winter.
It is always amazing, how they seem to explode in early spring.
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One of my favourite "Mossies"-- Saxifraga 'Ruth McConnell'
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Silver Saxes including S. Kinlayi flowering in New York.
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S. Burnattii
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S. Canis-Dalmatia
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While I'm at it a few Kabschias from April
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S. cv #1
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S. Minutifolia
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Saxifraga 'Winifred Bevington'
S. cotyledon Pink Form
A seedling from AGS Exchange seed (08/9-4776) supplied as from S. 'Archdale', sown February 2009. This is it's first flowering. The batch of seedlings got potted on and then forgotten about and subsequently rescued and some small offsets taken last year.
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I see I have a long way to go to get a proper Saxifraga collection!
I have named this one S. caucasica but am not sure. What do you think?
Edit 30/08/14
Adrian Young replies re ID : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11459.msg311776#msg311776 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11459.msg311776#msg311776)
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Silver Saxifragas in rock garden.
Saxifraga callosa
Saxifraga callosa hyb.
Saxifraga trough
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I grew this from seed around five years ago and this is it's first flowering. The label has been lost and I wonder if someone could ID it please, my first thought was a Saxifraga longifolia hybrid. The plant in the background is a very nice form of Campanula portenschlagiana (bet I spelt that wrong?).
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Is there anybody there?
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We're all far too busy lurking David ;) ;D
A handsome plant, well grown. I really like the symmetry of the rosettes, and the scape is spectacular.
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Thank you Ashley, you restore my faith in humanity's existence ;D
But I still don't know what my plant is-Adrian where are you?
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Two flowering now.
Saxifraga longifolia hybrid
S. 'Hareknoll Beauty'
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Graham, your first pic looks very similar to the plant I showed in Reply 59.
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Hi David, as I'm no expert I didn't reply to your original posting.
They do look similar and as hybrids I suspect they will all look slightly different. I bought mine as longifolia before I knew that longifolia only has a single rosette and as this has many offsets I just record it as a hybrid.
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I have several saxes on my roof and some are flowering now. Forgotten the name, of course.
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A pair of monocarpic Saxifraga:
-Saxifraga longifolia
-Saxifraga mutata
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An unusual Saxifraga is the drought loving Saxifraga erioblasta from the Sierra Nevada in Spain.
-March, fresh green cushion
-Flowers appear in May
-Two weeks later, the flowers change to pink
-June, the plant is in dormant.
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One of the many whiteflowered saxes on my shed roof and one Saxifraga cotyledon from the roadside (also in another post).
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Blooming now, in a trough where it has been thriving for the past six years, a silver saxifrage with tiny rosettes. Judging from descriptions in M. McGregor's book it is probably Saxifraga cochlearis 'Minor'. It's got lime spots on leaf edges, a red stalk, and rows of spots on petals, just visible in second photo. For scale, edge of trough/pot is about 18-20 mm (3/4 in.)
Knud