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Title: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 11, 2007, 10:18:23 PM
These narcissi are flowering now in my greenhouse. The first is in a pot labelled Narcissus elegans MS. Clearly it's not, so I must have transposed a label? The second is labelled 'Julia Jane'.
Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 11, 2007, 10:32:24 PM
'Julia Jane' should be wider than that, a lemon version of petunioides (though taller). But yours may not be fully out yet, in the picture?
Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Paul T on November 11, 2007, 10:35:45 PM
Lesley,

I was about to say the same thing.  Definitely doesn't look flat enough "at this stage", but could open further.
Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: mark smyth on November 11, 2007, 11:25:58 PM
my 'Craigton Clumper' is out and like I mentioned earlier this week 'Cedric Morris'. Both pots are now open so it cant be a one off. Even though I said they are small Brian Duncan saw one of the pots at our meeting and said they are normal in height
Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: annew on November 12, 2007, 08:39:13 AM
Ah, the Julia Jane question - it must be daff time again! :D
Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Cris on November 12, 2007, 02:05:35 PM
What a beautiful Narcisus. They remember me the N.Bulbocodium  that we have growing wild in a mountain next to me.


Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 12, 2007, 09:23:28 PM
When thy're in flower Cris, we'd love to see some pictures please.
Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Cris on November 13, 2007, 01:21:34 PM
Lesley, of course I'll show you :). I have here two pics of last year, taken in the wild. I simply love these little flowers.

Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Cris on November 13, 2007, 01:22:34 PM
Sory, i've repeated one pic

Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 13, 2007, 02:10:05 PM
Beautiful. :D
Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on November 13, 2007, 02:13:35 PM
Nothing beats seeing them in the wild !  :D
Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Gerdk on November 13, 2007, 03:02:14 PM
Lesley, of course I'll show you :). I have here two pics of last year, taken in the wild. I simply love these little flowers.


Just beautiful - it seems to be the variety (some say species) obesus !

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 13, 2007, 07:48:20 PM
Thank you Cris. I'll look forward to many more over the coming (your) winter months.
Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Cris on November 14, 2007, 01:33:58 PM
Thanks  :) They're realy amazing.

I'll post more pics in final winter, I think its abou march they flower.

Gerd, what is the difference of N.B. and N.B. obesus?
Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Gerdk on November 14, 2007, 03:19:03 PM
Gerd, what is the difference of N.B. and N.B. obesus?

Cris,
Narcissus obesus Salisb. (or N. bulbocodium ssp. obesus / N. bulbocodium var. obesus) in its typical form is an obese (fat) bulbocodium daffodil with prostrate fleshy foliage, short stems and large flowers which tend to incurve at the margin of the corona. It is found in western and southern Portugal, south west Spain and Morocco. Your last picture shows clearly the incurved margin.
The other bulbocodiums are quite inhomogeneous but without the corona as described above.

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 14, 2007, 07:44:14 PM
Here is a picture of my N. b. obesus, in a pot. But while the one Cris photographed is early, mine is among the last to flower at the end of spring. It's just finished this last week (May, if I lived in the Northern Hemisphere).

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Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on November 15, 2007, 08:02:20 AM
Nice clump Lesley - as to the flowering season, I think Cris photographed hers last spring in Portugal, I believe March - out here (some 1500 km North of Portugal) it's April before they flower in the garden.
Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Cris on November 15, 2007, 02:02:36 PM
Gerd, tanks for explanation. I've learned a bit more ;)

Lesley, they are so nice in that pot, with so many flowers. I've some in the ground, I hope they flower this year.

Marc, the pics were taken in May in their habitat. The're start now puting their leaves outside. But i've seen them just near Lisbon, a 50Km north, +/- 700 m high.

I let you a pic of one of mines, in a pot last year.
Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 15, 2007, 08:01:27 PM
Thanks Luc, for the note. I'd missed that Cris's pics were in March, last year. I need to open my eyes more ;)
Title: Re: Narcissus early winter 2007
Post by: Cris on November 15, 2007, 10:08:31 PM
Lesley, you have seen well, in an anterior post I've said that I thougt they're blooming in march.  Just today, when I looked better to the dates is that I've seen that they were in flower in May. Sorry for the confusion! It's me who must to keep the eyes open and pay more attencion ::)

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