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Title: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: Harry Jans on December 08, 2012, 04:41:32 PM
Dear friends,

Want you to know that two new Photo Albums are uploaded to my website.

Kyrgyzstan trip (April/May 2012) can be found here (http://www.jansalpines.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=32898)
Yemen, Socotra Archipelago (Oct./Nov. 2012) can be found here (http://www.jansalpines.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=32899)

The most special plant I found in Kyrgyzstan was Kaufmannia brachyanthera (looks like a Primula) and Hepatica falconeri. Next to these Tulipa, Androsace, Hegemone, etc. Also two species of Adonis which names are not 100% yet.

My last trip was to the Socotra Archipelago, no alpines, but................ many super plants. The highlight are the Dragon's Blood trees (Dracaena cinnabari). I was very luck to find also the endemic Socotrella dolichocnema and Oldenlandia pulvinata in flower.

Here some samples of what I saw.
8422 = Kaufmannia brachyanthera
8441 = Hepatica falconeri
5985 = Dracaena cinnabari
7087 = Socotrella dolichocnema
4799 = Oldenlandia pulvinata

Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: Afloden on December 08, 2012, 04:51:52 PM
So envious of you getting to see Hepatica falconeri!!!! :o

 
Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: zvone on December 08, 2012, 04:54:43 PM


Wau! Beautiful!

Thank's Harry!

Best Regards!  zvone
Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: TheOnionMan on December 08, 2012, 05:03:37 PM
Those are some of the coolest plants I've ever seen!  The Draceana trees are out of this world.  Thanks for showing these.

Didn't know where Socotra was so I googled:
http://yemen.way-nifty.com/blog/2011/11/index.html (http://yemen.way-nifty.com/blog/2011/11/index.html)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socotra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socotra)
Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: Afloden on December 08, 2012, 05:16:57 PM
And then you even got to see Ledebouria grandifolia on Socotra!!! Would love to grow that. It looks somewhat like a Merwilla. Not sure the other species, but I've heard there are two other endemics not yet named on Socotra.
Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: Maggi Young on December 08, 2012, 05:29:17 PM
Great trips again Harry- thanks for sharing!

Forumist  Frazer Henderson is a great fan of Socotra, he has shown various posts from his trips, for instance    here  (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=1557.0)
Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: Sarmienta on December 08, 2012, 06:23:25 PM
Very nice pictures harry,especially those Dracaena,s .
Yesterday i saw you on the television at the evening news ;)
Wim
Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: Uli Lessnow on December 08, 2012, 06:36:47 PM
Harry, I am very impressed of these wonderful pics. I have never seen Dracaena cinnabari in
nature as well as in a picture.
Uli
Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: Harry Jans on December 08, 2012, 07:19:44 PM
here some Adonis from Kyrgyzstan

all A. turkestanica
Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: Harry Jans on December 08, 2012, 07:25:54 PM
Another Adonis and I am not 100% sure about the name.
It is very hairy.
Adonis tianschanica ???
Who knows?
Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on December 08, 2012, 08:32:47 PM
As always Harry , great pictures and plants . Most of the Socotran plants we don't have seen before !
I wil surely take my time to admire them on your website . Ideal for a cold winterevening like today .     
Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: Magnar on December 08, 2012, 09:12:37 PM
Great pics, Thanks for sharing  :)
Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: ranunculus on December 08, 2012, 09:19:28 PM
Oh my, Harry ... sensational as always ... Adonis to die for and Oldenlandia ... phew!!! 
Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: fermi de Sousa on December 17, 2012, 10:54:17 AM
Harry,
we got a sneak preview when Diana showed us her pics of Kyrgystan at our local meeting! :)
Fascinating stuff, but as Cliff says that Oldenlandia! Amazing! :o
Looking forward to seeing you in NZ for the Study Weekend in February!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: ichristie on December 17, 2012, 03:25:55 PM
Hello Harry great plants really cheered me up pretty  foul weather just now thank you, cheers Ian the Christie kind
Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: Tim Ingram on December 18, 2012, 06:14:51 PM
Really intriguing plants Harry - especially some of those from Socotra. These, and Maggi's suggestion to look back at Frazer Henderson's posts led me to search on Amazon for books on this remarkable place.  One, 'Socotra, a Natural History of the Islands and Their People' (by Catherine Cheung, Lyndon De Vantier and Kay van Damme), has glowing reviews by several very eminent biologists. A great privilege to visit such a place.
Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: FrazerHenderson on February 09, 2013, 08:49:45 PM
Tim
That book provides an excellent overview. Chapter 3 covers the flora. I'd recommend it to anyone as a general overview (it's about £40). It also contains a very good bibliography for further referencing and furthermore it is well produced and looks good in one's library.

For those with greater interests in the flora the best book is probably Tony Miller and Miranda Morris' Ethnoflora of the Soqotra Archipelago, published by the RBGE (2004). This weighty tome is a work of real scholarship. It contains a great illustrated key - which I've used in the field. Alas, the photographs in the book have not been reproduced well and call into question the high price (£70). I do recommend obtaining the illustrated key as a separate ring-bound publication. It is considerably cheaper at about £15, I think, but you need to contact the RBGE to get a copy.

One other publication to mention is Joel Lode's Succulent Plants of Socotra which contains 60 pages of photographs (though of variable quality) of almost all the succulent plants in the archipelago. It costs about 10 Euros - handy for a wide pocket when travelling.

Frazer

Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: arillady on February 10, 2013, 11:47:47 AM
I have just come across this thread and the Dragon Blood's Tree forest was amazing. There are some old specimens in the older parts of Adelaide. I do wonder if a certain old tree was saved when an old house on the same allotment  was demolished to build a new building or if it went the way of the house. It would have been a great pity as they take ages to get to any sort of size I should imagine. I have tried seeds twice but lost both soon after germination.
Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: Maggi Young on June 06, 2020, 01:33:26 PM
Reopening this  thread  to add a  link to a  super  video on Youtube -
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga4DncsyZj8&fbclid=IwAR0it7dNFbHh6NdAjIxFbS7v9JhZvtYSf4CdqfkJNPIi9KIe-AZTjYOko5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga4DncsyZj8&fbclid=IwAR0it7dNFbHh6NdAjIxFbS7v9JhZvtYSf4CdqfkJNPIi9KIe-AZTjYOko5c)

"The Island of Socotra, Yemen is famous for its exceptional natural beauty and biodiversity. Socotra is sometimes called the "Galapagos of the Indian Ocean", it is UNESCO World Heritage Site.

Main locations in the video: Arher Beach & Sand Dunes (0:41), Homhil Protected Area (2:50), Hoq Cave (5:59), Dirhamri marine protected area (8:48), Delisha Beach (9:30), Dixam Plateau (10:54), Rokeb di Firmihin Dragon Blood Tree Forest (13:29), Southern Coast sand dunes and beaches (17:23), Degub Cave (19:18), Detwah Lagoon (20:28), Boat trip and dolphins (24:14), Shu'ab Beach (25:39)"

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Title: Re: flowers from Kyrgyzstan & Socotra
Post by: ashley on June 06, 2020, 02:35:30 PM
Thanks Maggi, very nice to see.

National Geographic also published articles in 2012 (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2012/06/socotra/) & 2018 (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2018/11/socotra-yemen-biodiversity-photography/).
Socotra is now under control of southern Yemeni separatists (see here (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/21/yemen-separatists-seize-island-of-socotra-from-saudi-backed-government)).
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