Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
Specific Families and Genera => Cacti and Succulents => Topic started by: admin on July 06, 2012, 10:07:21 AM
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Anyone grow these outside or under cold glass? Back in the 1980s I had one surviving bone dry all winter under unheated glass. No idea which species, it was a house plant out of Asda. ;D I have seen huge tubs of them growing outside at Hari Hari on the west coast of NZ, but that's a pretty favoured spot as far as winter temps go. It is phenomenally wet though.
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Used to under glass, bone dry through the winter also managed to keep some outside going even with frost and snow on them. Haven't got a clue what ones they were and I do live on right the South Coast of England.
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Just to prove I do read what you say sir, here is a photo of one which sat outside the back door all last winter with no protection at all. As you can see it is not a terribly good specimen, but it did reach flowering and I will put it under glass for the winter this year!
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Hi
Another genus I like much, and this one I'm going to show you is one of the hardiest Echeveria I ever known.
Echeveria 'Mandala'
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-IRR9upub0aU/ULvCeHifGZI/AAAAAAAA40M/S7DjJ97psKM/s601/IMG_0031.JPG)
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I would say that this is a Greenovia hybrids. This is not a Echeveria.
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Hi here are some echeveria cutting taken from an old plant, I am hoping to put some outside in the garden and see how they go.
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This plant, bought at a charity sale was apparently originally sourced from Aldi!
I have grown a number of echeveria over the years, overwintering them in a frost-free greenhouse. I find they occasionally lose their roots for unexplained reasons but usually can be re-rooted either as a rosette or from a single leaf. However a few years ago 3 of my oldest specimens failed to regenerate at all. Maybe all the material was senescent.
Erle
Anglesey
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Echeveria setosa from Aldi? Who'd have guessed - it's amazing what turns up in odd places.
Your plant is looking good, Erle - tho' it may need a shave soon! ;D ;)
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Menai - That is a fantastic setosa. Would you call it a new blue form?
johnw
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Couldn't say John as I had never seen the species before. It certainly looks bluer than the specimen in Sajeva & Costanzo.
Erle
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Echeveria setosa from Aldi? Who'd have guessed - it's amazing what turns up in odd places.
Aldi did indeed have some Echeveria setosa in store a couple (?) of years ago. Here's mine. This was almost as suprising as finding pots of Ludisia discolor in Lidl last year!
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Aldi did indeed have some Echeveria setosa in store a couple (?) of years ago. Here's mine. This was almost as suprising as finding pots of Ludisia discolor in Lidl last year!
It's growing well too.
Oddly enough, I was given a Ludisia about 15 years ago by a chum who found them in a supermarket in Inverness. ( He gets about!) Neither of us could credit it!
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Menai / SJW: Oh these are much nicer than the type ones over here. Picture #1. Is it a var. or cultivar?
Meanwhile any idea which one this large-flowered orange one is? Pic#2.
johnw
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Menai / SJW: Oh these are much nicer than the type ones over here. Picture #1. Is it a var. or cultivar?
Meanwhile any idea which one this large-flowered orange one is? Pic#2.
johnw
John - Not sure if the one I have is a species or hybrid but perhaps yours is the standard Echeveria setosa while the one with bluer leaves is Echeveria setosa var. minor? There's a comprehensive list plus photos on the International Crassulaceae Network website which may help to identify your orange-flowered plant: http://crassulaceae.net/echeveriamenu/93-list-species (http://crassulaceae.net/echeveriamenu/93-list-species)
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These Echeverias grow outside all year around. The ones in the Arid Bed have been damaged by wet but are still growing.
(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a497/kevinjamesbegley/019_zps55040fc0.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j49/scattery/second%20album/010_zpsb0fa33ce.jpg)