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Title: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: Darren on June 13, 2012, 09:21:02 PM
I've used the superb Keith Singleton J.I. composts and grit for years but getting the amount I need from local suppliers was never easy. Susan discovered that we could get a mixed pallet delivered directly, and at much less cost than the usual retail price.

I ordered a mixed pallet online, phoned with my card number on a monday morning (speaking to Mr Singleton himself - a nice chap with numerous mutual acquaintances). He said that as we are relatively local he would see if his own truck might be passing rather than sending the order by palletline. On tuesday he rang to tell me they could deliver around midday on the wednesday!

At 10 minutes past noon on the wednesday the truck pulled up and I expected to have to carry the bags to the garage from the pavement but the delivery driver said he reckoned he could get his little forklift up our steep drive and get the palet right into the garage. 5 minutes later it was done and he was on his way.

Here is the URL for the pallet deals:

http://www.cumbriagardensandpetsdirect.co.uk/main.asp?category=Gardening+Pallet+Deals (http://www.cumbriagardensandpetsdirect.co.uk/main.asp?category=Gardening+Pallet+Deals)

Superb service and excellent products. Here is the pallet with 12 bags J.I number 2, 12 bags coarse grit, 10 bags sand, 1 bag dolomite lime, 12 bags mulch/soil conditioner. 3 bags fine composted bark. Delivered right into the garage.




Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: Maren on June 13, 2012, 10:11:56 PM
Oh you lucky man! I wish we had someone like that nearby. :) :) :)
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: Mavers on June 14, 2012, 03:27:12 PM
Hi Darren, is that a 475kg pallet or 1200kg in your garage?

The products offered seem very good.

What is it you like about their JI composts?

Mike
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: Tony Willis on June 15, 2012, 02:11:42 AM
Darren

it is super stuff and they are a great firm but my last delivery was a minimum of 2 one tonne pallets.
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: Darren on June 15, 2012, 08:24:51 AM
That is a 1200kg Pallet Mike - actually 1210kg as the JI is in 24kg bags so it is hard to get exactly 1200kg in a mixed palllet. I like their JI because it seems to have the right amount of humus in it and keeps its structure for a long time compared to Bowers which turns to dust if I leave it dry in pots whilst my bulbs are dormant. I also find it gives better and more sustained growth, plus it feels and smells great with that proper humussy smell which is hard to describe. The lack of weed seeds is also a bonus.

The grit is smaller and more rounded than the sharp stuff that our local garden centres stock too.

Tony - I think the minimum varies with distance and hence delivery cost. We are lucky as they deliver to garden centres at Overton and in Garstang so their own truck passes us quite frequently. I know they deliver to Logan botanic gardens, and to nurseries in Northumberland so distance possibly not a great object if order is big enough (say a local group clubbing together for a couple of pallets).

Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: mark smyth on March 06, 2014, 04:38:28 PM
We cant get any good JI over here
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: Maggi Young on March 06, 2014, 04:48:06 PM
 renaming this thread to make it more obviously about compost and not a person!
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: David Nicholson on March 06, 2014, 05:01:29 PM
Just by way of comparison J Arthur Bowers to Green Ore (I got my money back from JAB!)
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: ChrisB on March 06, 2014, 05:52:35 PM
Darren not sure if you're still reading this thread but if you are do you use the ordinary JI or the special alpine mix?
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: SusanS on March 06, 2014, 08:01:24 PM
Hi Chris,

Darren buys the straight JI and then tinkers with it  ::)  I'll mention your query to him tomorrow - have sent him to bed with a hot lemon drink as he is coming down with a cold.

Susan
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: ChrisB on March 06, 2014, 08:33:22 PM
Hi Susan
Thanks tell him together better soon.  Are you going to the Kendal Show?  There's a chance I may be going with Pearl and Mike Dale.  Fingers crossed....
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: Darren on March 07, 2014, 08:13:06 AM
Thanks Chris - I'm vertical for the time being but can't say I'm feeling better! Have to be at work today as I'm currently training to take on a new role next month (two weeks to learn my predecessor's 20 years of organic chemistry experience before he leaves - oh and the main instrument has developed a fault which needs fixing before we can go any further).

Susan is right - I just get the straight JI and mix with grit.

We will certainly be at Kendal as we are actively involved in running the show. Susan is likely to be on the computer and I will be running the members plant stall for at least part of the day. Really hope you can make it!




Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: ChrisB on March 07, 2014, 09:52:00 AM
Glad you're a bit better.  Hope to see you next week then... Hope there's plenty of parking... Think quite a few people might come over...
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: Darren on March 07, 2014, 11:01:01 AM
Hope to see lots of visitors! A quick look at the school on Google street view suggests reasonable parking at the school but also there is a pay-and-display only 100yds away at the leisure centre.
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: Maggi Young on March 07, 2014, 12:06:25 PM
Hope to see lots of visitors! A quick look at the school on Google street view suggests reasonable parking at the school but also there is a pay-and-display only 100yds away at the leisure centre.

 See this post for a link to maps......  http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10806.msg284221#msg284221 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10806.msg284221#msg284221)
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: annew on April 17, 2014, 01:56:50 PM
Tried to order from the Singleton's website, but it's not working - when I rang it seems you can only see the products on their ebay shop, which doesn't include John Innes compost or large bags of perlite etc. They suggested I tell them what I want and they will quote, but I was hoping for the individual prices and weights to compose a palletful to share with friends. It all became too complicated. Maybe next year. :-\
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: Darren on April 17, 2014, 03:18:57 PM
That's sad. I dislike e-bay to the extent that I'd rather do without something if that is the only place I can get it.

And I still need to do my own KS order for this year.
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: Mavers on April 17, 2014, 03:22:07 PM
Green Ore is just 15 miles from my home David, I use their compost too, though I do tinker with it........wouldn't touch AB's.

Steve & Emma at 'The Mead Nursery', Brokerswood, Westbury, Wiltshire BA13 4EG sell their own brilliant home made compost, collection only though
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: ChrisB on April 17, 2014, 05:00:44 PM
Hi Anne,
Did you go to Keith Singleton Horticulture | Cumbria Garden Centre Compost ...
www.cumbriagardensandpetsdirect.co.uk (http://www.cumbriagardensandpetsdirect.co.uk)
That's where I ordered mine from and it worked like a charm just the other week.  Got a mix of various things sand, JI, Aquatic and I even got a few bags of their alpine mix which I have sieved to check how much sharp grit and it's perfect for most of my alpines very free draining...
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: shelagh on April 17, 2014, 08:54:52 PM
Doesn't appear to be working at the moment Christine. :'(
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: David Nicholson on April 17, 2014, 08:59:33 PM
Green Ore is just 15 miles from my home David, I use their compost too, though I do tinker with it........wouldn't touch AB's.

Steve & Emma at 'The Mead Nursery', Brokerswood, Westbury, Wiltshire BA13 4EG sell their own brilliant home made compost, collection only though

Mike, I didn't know Mead stocked their own brand. We try to get up to the nursery at least once a year.
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: brianw on April 17, 2014, 11:07:53 PM
I don't know where Arthur Bowers JI is made but I did notice last week that a cleared area of one on the beds at Wisley looked more or less just the same, with the odd small stone. I amend it so much with grit, perlite etc. that I found the top soil with added JI was better value at my local supplier.
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: ChrisB on April 18, 2014, 07:16:09 AM
Quite right Shelagh, how strange.  I ordered no problem but now the pallet option seems to have been discontinued... Pity because it's great stuff!  Must use it carefully... They've only got JI 2 on Facebook unless I'm doing something wrong there too.
Title: Re: Keith Singleton Compost
Post by: Darren on April 29, 2014, 01:44:42 PM
I was just in contact with Keith and he tells me that the new website going live coincided with a close family member becoming seriously ill and is still not fully recovered. This, combined with an exceptionally busy spring this year means that work on the website is effectively suspended until things settle down.

He confirms they are still happy to quote for individual requirements and I will still be ordering my bulb-repotting goods later in the summer.
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