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Title: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: WimB on March 06, 2012, 05:46:03 PM
Some Saxifrages which are starting to flower here now:

Saxifraga 'George Gershwin'
Saxifraga 'Kampa'
Saxifraga marginata f. milica
Saxifraga marginata
Saxifraga 'Marilyn Monroe'
Saxifraga scardica f. olymp
Saxifraga sempervivum f. stenophylla
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Tim Ingram on March 08, 2012, 06:05:28 PM
I've always struggled to grow these well but am getting hooked on them again after buying Malcolm McGregor's book last year. So I am trying some in tufa and some in the coolest but still reasonably light parts of my sand bed. They really are wonderfully cheerful plants at this time of year.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Graham Catlow on March 11, 2012, 04:40:07 PM
A first for me with this one.
Bought as a single tiny rosette in August 2010.
The photo is more red than the actual colour which is very pink.

Saxifraga frederici-augusti subsp. grisebachii 'Wisley Variety' The longest plant name I have, and have ever come across.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Jlynx on March 11, 2012, 10:34:58 PM
Very nice looking Sax.  I ordered one from a nursery.  Is it outside in a trough or is it in an alpine house?
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Graham Catlow on March 12, 2012, 06:55:02 AM
Hi!
It's in a trough. I cover the trough through the winter to keep out some of the winter wet. I don't know if I need to though.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Tim Ingram on March 12, 2012, 05:37:38 PM
Some really nice examples from Wisley on Sunday. The two troughs were beautifully planted, and I would be more than happy to grow saxifrages as well as this! Does anyone recognise the salmon cultivar shown in the first trough? Although it doesn't come out in the photo the most striking plant in the second trough (to my eyes) was S. ferdinandi-coburgi (middle top). This had small but vivid yellow flowers on the tightest of cushions.

These two troughs are on the north side of the glasshouse, giving good light but cooler conditions. Elsewhere a few saxes. were growing in tufa walls - S. 'Penelope' and 'Tumbling Waters'. This has to be the ideal way of growing them if one has access to tufa.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 12, 2012, 09:43:26 PM
Surely the whole concept of trough-growing was invented for Porophyllum saxifrages. :)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Jlynx on March 12, 2012, 11:42:05 PM
Outstanding troughs!  Tumbling Waters looks great. Impressive
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: ruweiss on March 14, 2012, 09:22:29 PM
Most of the Saxifrages of the Porophyllum section start to show their beautiful
flowers, some of them are already almost out of flower.
The S.frederici-augustii seedlings are 3 years old and could be maybe hybrids.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 14, 2012, 11:04:51 PM
They are very nice Rudi. :)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: ruweiss on March 16, 2012, 08:48:25 PM
Thank you Lesley
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Leiomerus on March 19, 2012, 11:05:11 PM
Hi,
Here are some nice pictures of some even nicer Saxifragas, rewarding plants if you give them the little attention they deserve.
1/ Saxifraga 'Cumulus' next to a big marble rock in the rock garden
2/ Saxifraga 'Kathleen', a plant of 14 years old and still happy
3/ Saxifaga 'Lismore Carmine' in the rock garden
4/ Saxifraga 'Your Song', growing on a moonrock and my alltime favorite
5/ Saxifraga 'Red Poll', growing in a hole in sandstone
6/ Saxifraga 'Laka', growing in my concrete gutter
7/ Saxifraga 'Peach Melba' (left) next to Saxifraga 'Allendale Charm' and charming indeed, also with a miserable life in the gutter ... ;)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on March 19, 2012, 11:13:13 PM
I have 'Your Song' too, and I like it VERY much.
Your close-up photos really show the charm of these flowers. The cushions are so good too, of course.

That last peachy apricot is pretty, too.  Hard to beat the large white flowers, though, isn't it?

   
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Leiomerus on March 19, 2012, 11:21:41 PM
Thanks Maggi, but 'Peach Melba' still has to open some flowers and some buds have been frozen during the long, cold spell we and the plants experienced. But we could hide in our warm bed and the Saxifragas had to whitstand temperatures of minus 15 degrees.
But nevertheless 'Peach Melba' still has enough good buds to show a fine display. ;)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on March 19, 2012, 11:29:01 PM
Oh yes, I take nothing away from Peach Melba..... the colour is pretty and the flower shape good.
There is just so much of the "film star" about large white flowers.  :D
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: adrian young on March 20, 2012, 04:56:52 PM
My problem Maggi is I like them all........... ;D
What about this beauty, S. Beinn Eighe
Ss. cinerea x dinnikii, raised by John Mullaney
Shown at Blackpool last Saturday, did not see you there? ;)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on March 20, 2012, 05:03:57 PM
S. Beinn Eighe is  indeed lovely.  Large flowers, soft pink... what's not to like? ....as our USA cousins say!

If you were looking for me in Blackpool you'll have had a fruitless search... I was here in Aberdeen.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Leiomerus on March 20, 2012, 09:58:48 PM
All those beauties ! The pleasant thing is, that the beauty fades away after some time, but next year it comes fully back, at least with Saxifragas, people are another matter, but these always maintain their beauty inside ...

Some 'saxual' beauties :
1/ Saxifraga burseriana 'John Tomlinson' growing happily being squeezed by some marble rocks
2/ Saxifraga 'Elvis Presley', Elvis Presley was very famous but now he is in the gutter
3/ also in the gutter : Saxifraga 'Johann Wolfgang Goethe', what a name and the plant is even 'bigger' than the name in my opinion
4/ some Saxifragas love the life in the gutter 8)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on March 20, 2012, 10:11:10 PM
They may be in the gutter.... but they are looking at the stars..... :D :D ;)

 Is there a Saxifraga called 'Oscar Wilde'? There should be!
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: alpinelover on April 10, 2012, 09:21:36 PM
A selection of a few plants that flowered here in the garden.
'Satchmo' (photo 1)
'Roklan' (photo 2)
A seedling from 'Winifred' (photo 3)
'Bohemian Karst' (photo 4)
'Jenkinsiae' (photo 5)
'Allendale Celt' (photo 6)
'Farewell' (photo 7)
Stribrnyi (photo 8)
'Jendini' (photo 9)
'Your succes' (photo 10)









Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: alpinelover on April 10, 2012, 09:35:15 PM
And some more,

S. burseriana form Seissera (photo 1)
'Bridget' (photo 2)
'Coolock Kate' (photo 3)
S. sempervivum (photo 4)
'Ganymede' (photo 5)
'Cranbourne' (photo 6)
S. burseriana var. burseriana (photo 7)
'Vincent Van Gogh' (photo 8)
'Christian Huyghens' (photo 9)
S. porophylla, very rare (photo 10)









Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: alpinelover on April 10, 2012, 09:37:58 PM
Some vieuws:
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 11, 2012, 03:31:35 AM
Alpinelover, these plants obviously love you as much as you love them. Real gems, every one and beautifully grown and healthy. I love them all but especially the unusual colouring of 'Christian Huyghens.' I'm greedy so I hope you have more to show us. :)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Jlynx on April 14, 2012, 12:53:49 AM
Thanks for sharing.  Excellent collection growing in the tufa.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: adrian young on May 08, 2012, 05:59:52 PM
Hi
Some great sax pics
The pic of S.Roklan is very pale,
this cultivar is usually much darker
The first pic is at Waterperry
the second is from Prague
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on May 08, 2012, 06:45:42 PM
Hi Adrian... did the conference in Loenen go well ?
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: adrian young on May 08, 2012, 07:21:35 PM
The conference went very well Maggi,
Mark did a great job organising it.
We had a great day at the Utrecht Alpine Fair,
came away with 70 plants.
Met up with all the locals including Ger v d Beuken
and Gert Hoek plus Bart Moerland, yes a good event.
Some interesting lectures, MM was in form.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Leiomerus on May 09, 2012, 06:29:44 PM
Hi Adrian,

I regret I didn't see you in Utrecht, probably because the event was so crowded, there were so many plants and so little time. I had to leave early too.
I hope you enjoyed my pictures, shown in the lecture given by Kris De Raeymaeker.
I also acquired many plants, of course mainly Saxifrages.  ;)

Greetings from Leiomerus
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: adrian young on May 09, 2012, 06:45:30 PM
Hi Leiomerus
The Utrecht plant fair was great, got many plants,
Bart gave me a lot of saxes.
I enjoyed the pics from your garden.
I shall definitely go again.   ;)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: ranunculus on May 17, 2012, 06:20:58 AM
At a friend's house today ... Saxifraga oppositifolia with a twenty two inch diameter. Haven't encountered anything as large or as symmetrical in the wild - and he swears he doesn't trim it.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: adrian young on May 17, 2012, 09:54:51 AM
At a friend's house today ... Saxifraga oppositifolia with a twenty two inch diameter. Haven't encountered anything as large or as symmetrical in the wild - and he swears he doesn't trim it.
At a friend's house today ... Saxifraga oppositifolia with a twenty two inch diameter. Haven't encountered anything as large or as symmetrical in the wild - and he swears he doesn't trim it.
I would love to see a pic of that oppositifolia in flower (job for you Cliff)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Olga Bondareva on May 17, 2012, 11:17:37 AM
I can't shoot them all. That's a part of my flowering collection.

(http://cs301108.userapi.com/v301108879/878/tNNr0cUtEGE.jpg)
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: ranunculus on May 17, 2012, 11:56:24 AM
Wonderful collection, Olga ... very impressive.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: ranunculus on May 17, 2012, 12:33:06 PM
I would love to see a pic of that oppositifolia in flower (job for you Cliff)

I have asked him to keep me well informed, Adrian.  I want to see it in flower nearly as much as you!!!   :D
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 17, 2012, 10:30:32 PM
Nah, he's into making green crepes.
I take it the little brown spots are the has beens? It must have been very good in bloom. A question, is it easy to raise Sax oppositifolia from seed? I get a lot on my 'Ruth Draper' but even carefully sown, get very few seedlings.

Olga, that is an amazing collection. They must give you such pleasure.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 17, 2012, 10:32:56 PM
I have asked him to keep me well informed, Adrian.  I want to see it in flower nearly as much as you!!!   :D

Or are they buds?
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: ranunculus on May 17, 2012, 10:35:26 PM
Or they buds?

Flowers are well past, Lesley.  The grower has never had a single self-sown seedling.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 17, 2012, 11:41:54 PM
Mmm, I though they were past flowers. I suppose any seed would fall back into the mat. RD sets lots of what seems to be good quality seed, black and with good substance, quite large for a sax.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Hoy on May 19, 2012, 08:17:00 PM
This is not my collection but wild growing and rather common here on the island. Not as impressive as Olga's collection though, just the everyday Saxifraga granulata.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: hadacekf on May 21, 2012, 08:07:19 PM
My silver saxifragas.
Saxifraga longifolia - self seedling.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: ranunculus on May 21, 2012, 08:10:58 PM
Stunning, Franz.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: alpinelover on May 21, 2012, 08:47:57 PM
I can't shoot them all. That's a part of my flowering collection.

(http://cs301108.userapi.com/v301108879/878/tNNr0cUtEGE.jpg)

Really nice collection, Olga! Are they blooming now at this moment?
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: johnw on June 10, 2012, 04:30:38 PM
Meant to do a day trip to Newfoundland last Monday and got marooned at the airport in dense fog until Wednesday night.  Temps werre 4-5c and extremely damp and chilly.  The season is easily a month ahead over there despite the weather.  My the mossies do well over there.  You even see them as colourful patches in folks' lawns.  Here one big patch beneath, of all places, a Norway maple in Spaniard's Bay.

johnw
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: ViggoU on June 13, 2012, 09:09:52 PM
Here is a couple of images from the botanical garden in Tromsų taken last weekend. The first one is a close-up of a group in the "Saxifraga-hill". The second is a gigantic Saxifraga marginata.

Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: David Nicholson on July 04, 2012, 05:46:39 PM
Saxifraga cuscutiforms. I'm a bit confused about this, in McGregor he lists it as a cultivar of S stolonifera "most commonly grown as a house plant" but it is also listed as a synonym of S stolonifera (if I've read it right).

Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: David Nicholson on July 04, 2012, 05:52:46 PM
In my little rock garden I try to keep a section for easy stuff normally obtainable from garden centres and I have a few Mossy Saxes scattered around. One of these is S. 'Ruth McConnell'. People passing often are interested in what I grow and I tell them where the plants can be obtained from and try to persuade them to have a go at something similar. Haven't managed to get anyone to join up yet but, one of these days............
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Maggi Young on July 04, 2012, 07:26:11 PM
Seeing your sax. named for Ruth McConnel, reminded  me of that lady and her history with the SRGC: Ruth McConnel and her mother Mrs Garnett-Botfield, were famous members of the SRGC in the 1960's, who popularised Rhodohypoxis. Between them Ruth McConnel and her mother raised and named just about all the named forms of Rhodohypoxis baurii. There are a couple of short articles by Ruth in the SRGC Journals.

I see in the past I have used McConnell as well, but the name is McConnel.... names are a big source of confusion are they not? And not just for the plants!
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: ruweiss on July 22, 2012, 09:38:29 PM
During a short 5-day trip to the dolomites we were lucky to see so many alpine
plants in full flower; especially some Saxifrages were at their best. The highlight
was a Sax.caesia in show quality, we have never seen a more floriferous plant
of this species in its natural habitat before.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: David Nicholson on July 23, 2012, 07:32:13 PM
Lovely pictures Rudi.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Hoy on July 27, 2012, 10:26:17 PM
Yesterday I walked a valley with 1000s of Saxifraga cotyledon. They grow in steep, often vertical cliffs but I managed to picture a few ;) The rosettes die after flowering but  some new are formed first.

And a Saxifraga aizoides.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: adrian young on September 03, 2012, 06:39:56 PM

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Saxifraga cuscutiforms. I'm a bit confused about this, in McGregor he lists it as a cultivar of S stolonifera "most commonly grown as a house plant" but it is also listed as a synonym of S stolonifera (if I've read it right).


David; Saxifraga cuscutiforms is botanically not different to S stolonifera. Horticulturaly it is worth
keeping as a cultivar.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: David Nicholson on September 03, 2012, 06:49:21 PM
It's been very good value Adrian, only just finished flowering.
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Roma on December 23, 2012, 04:58:19 PM
Saxifraga under water :(
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on December 23, 2012, 05:54:55 PM
Good grief !  >:(
I hope they make it ok, Roma !
Title: Re: Saxifraga 2012
Post by: Roma on December 24, 2012, 12:28:08 PM
I hope so too, Luc.  Their heads are above the water now but more rain is forecast for tonight and later in the week. 
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