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Title: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Diane Whitehead on February 03, 2012, 03:48:04 AM

who does sell Trilliums in the Northern Hemisphere. Many Americans say they can't be bought at all in the States so they MUST collect plants from the wild.



Thimble Farms on Saltspring Island, British Columbia sells lots of trilliums grown from seed.
I take the ferry over several times a year because I like to choose plants in flower, but they
are also a mail order nursery, and do send to the U.S.

This photo shows a small part of the nursery, though not the trillium part.

http://www.thimblefarms.com/
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Tim Ingram on February 03, 2012, 09:32:42 AM
Diane - that is a very stimulating sight! Something to aspire to.
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: maggiepie on February 03, 2012, 12:32:17 PM
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Thimble Farms on Saltspring Island, British Columbia sells lots of trilliums grown from seed.
I take the ferry over several times a year because I like to choose plants in flower, but they

http://www.thimblefarms.com/

Diane, you are so lucky to be able to wander aroudn TFN, all I can do is browse the catalogue and sigh.
Think I could spend a week there.

 :'(
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: BryanEmery on February 03, 2012, 05:20:34 PM
It is such a fun nursery to wander through. I go 2-4 times a year, it takes many hours and many hundreds of dollars...
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: maggiepie on February 03, 2012, 05:29:38 PM
It is such a fun nursery to wander through. I go 2-4 times a year, it takes many hours and many hundreds of dollars...
So you get great nurseries + the good weather. :'(



Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Maggi Young on February 03, 2012, 05:36:27 PM
It is such a fun nursery to wander through. I go 2-4 times a year, it takes many hours and many hundreds of dollars...
So you get great nurseries + the good weather. :'(




Wondering if you should  be contemplating a move from New Brunswick, Helen........ ::)
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: BryanEmery on February 03, 2012, 05:39:38 PM
It might be worth a move... Crocus and snowdrops are up in the garden, I have flowers in the garden every month. We can even grow citrus with minimal protection. Another sunny day in paradise!

B
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: maggiepie on February 03, 2012, 06:08:38 PM
Wondering if you should  be contemplating a move from New Brunswick, Helen........ ::)

Chance would be a fine thing, Maggi.
Would need to win the lottery bigtime !!
Then of course, I might be tempted to go back to Oz........hmmmmmmm
Not sure what is worse, 7 month long winters or 7 month long summers.

Bryan, you are making me cry!!  :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Maggi Young on February 03, 2012, 06:49:43 PM


Chance would be a fine thing, Maggi.
Would need to win the lottery bigtime !!
Then of course, I might be tempted to go back to Oz........hmmmmmmm
Not sure what is worse, 7 month long winters or 7 month long summers.

Bryan, you are making me cry!!  :'( :'( :'( :'(

Neither option of extended season is perfect, is it?

Bryan, behave yourself, you're making us all jealous.... as if it wasn't bad enough that I have Grahame Ware boasting to me all the time about what great swimming weather it is in BC....... :-X
That... and when Ian visited Vancouver he thought it was beautiful...... :)
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: BryanEmery on February 03, 2012, 07:07:11 PM
Oh but Maggi he was in vancouver, here in Victoria we are further south with much better weather.  ;D

And we can only grow some citrus with out a frost free greenhouse ...

B
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Maggi Young on February 03, 2012, 07:21:34 PM
Oh but Maggi he was in vancouver, here in Victoria we are further south with much better weather.  ;D

And we can only grow some citrus with out a frost free greenhouse ...

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Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: maggiepie on February 03, 2012, 07:23:45 PM
Oh but Maggi he was in vancouver, here in Victoria we are further south with much better weather.  ;D

And we can only grow some citrus with out a frost free greenhouse ...

B

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Maggi, in Oz you can grow citrus outdoors just about anywhere.
I had a wondeful Kaffir lime that had the most wonderful scent when in flower, THEN the gigantic stinkbugs would arrive and cover it.
Had to chop it down in the end...!!

Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Maggi Young on February 03, 2012, 07:26:00 PM
Oz is too far and too hot for me. Canadian weather is better for redheaded folks!
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: maggiepie on February 03, 2012, 07:48:32 PM
Oz is too far and too hot for me. Canadian weather is better for redheaded folks!

I don't think I could handle an Oz summer again. Maybe Tassie.
NZ might be ok in parts.
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Grahame Ware on February 03, 2012, 07:53:49 PM
Diane: I also have some lovely seed grown Trillium ovatum that I will selling at VIRAGS and AGCBC Spring sales.

And Maggi, we were at the beach this morning and we went swimming. Okay, I lied, my puppy dog Dee Dee went swimming! I had a vicarious thrill of throwing sticks in the water. She's home and dry and sleeping now.

Sposed to hit 11C here today and its sunny with barely a breeze.

G
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: maggiepie on February 03, 2012, 07:56:30 PM
Grahame, would you like to come to New Brunswick and set up a stand somewhere in Spring?

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Grahame Ware on February 04, 2012, 12:24:22 AM
Helen: New Brunswick? That's a whole lotta overhead for this Pop op.

Did have a lubberly day at the beach with my 5 month puppy dog girl. The prettiest black lab I've ever seen but built like a brick outhouse.
Found some huge cedar posts 8" diameter and 10' long and relatively dry. Also a pressure-treated 6" x 6" post that was 5' long and a lovely 2" x 8" pressure-treated board that was 8' long.

Everybody knows that my 1 ton Dodge van is really a beach taxi for dogs both long since gone and for the new dog. They can get wet and dirty as hell and I've usher them into the back.

It does double however as a pretty good thing for beachcombing- for both me and my new beachcombing buddy.

Yah, really great day today and its coming your way!
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 05, 2012, 09:30:19 PM
Thanks for the link Maggi. It just shows how like a real conversation among friends, the Forum is. We start off on one subject but are soon onto something else then something else agaoin. I don't know how you manage to keep up with us all. ;D
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 05, 2012, 09:37:30 PM

I don't think I could handle an Oz summer again. Maybe Tassie.
NZ might be ok in parts.

Yep, NZ IS OK is parts. Not Auckland (though Anthony may disagree) because it rains every day and is very humid, no good for alpines, all the east coast is drought prone in these times of global warming but we still have a good climate for alpines, rhodos and the like and Central Otago if you want to grow oncos and junos to perfection - along with cherries, peaches, apricots and all the summer fruits and berries. Apples and pears too. Tell me when you're coming, I'll pick you up at the airport (probably Chch.) ;D
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: maggiepie on February 05, 2012, 09:49:14 PM
Lesley, I would come just for the fruit!!!

Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 06, 2012, 01:17:52 AM
And you'd be very welcome Helen. :D I'm living on stone fruit pro tem, with predictable results. ???
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: maggiepie on February 06, 2012, 02:27:25 AM
Lesley, have been looking at houses for sale around Dunedin.
Where are the rural areas?

Stone fruit is the best.
I can eat a kilo of cherries in a day  :o
Are cherries considered stone fruit?
Peaches, nectarines, plums, oh yummm.
I really miss blood plums.
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: fermi de Sousa on February 06, 2012, 02:56:35 AM
And you'd be very welcome Helen. :D I'm living on stone fruit pro tem, with predictable results. ???
Things have gone pear-shaped? ???
 ;D
Helen,
you don't have to live where summer is seven months long - especially not in NSW this year! But Tassie would be a better option if you could stand not being able to order anything you like out of the seed/bulb catalogues the way you can in Canada! Worse in NZ, remember! (and they haven't heard of Collingwood! :o ) The West Coast of Canada may be the best bet afterall!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 06, 2012, 10:10:42 AM
Yes, cherries are definitely stone fruit. ;D I can eat a kilo a day too, at least while the season lasts. Rural areas are near me, Mosgiel/Sadlle Hill or Allanton a little further south. Depends how far you want to go from the city. Then there's the Otago Peninsula if you fancy penguins/albatrosses/seals and the like. Or north of the city try Waikouaiti, offically still IN Dunedin, an anomaly which occurred when local bodies amalgamated some years ago. Central Otago is about 1 1/2 hours north west.

And no, the plant situation is NOT worse in NZ than in Tasmania. At least we can order whatever we want from anywhere within NZ and most seeds from the lists overseas. When I went from Melbourne to Hobart I wasn't allowed to take a small hepatica from Otto's garden to Marcus in Hobart because of the Tassie quarantine regs.
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: ChrisB on February 06, 2012, 10:22:37 AM
BC is too hot for me.  Even went out to White Rock to get a sea breeze and it was overwhelmingly hot.  Probably a tad cooler on the Island, but when I was there two years ago, in early June, it got up to 90F during the day.
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: maggiepie on February 06, 2012, 01:17:59 PM
And you'd be very welcome Helen. :D I'm living on stone fruit pro tem, with predictable results. ???
Things have gone pear-shaped? ???
 ;D
Helen,
you don't have to live where summer is seven months long - especially not in NSW this year! But Tassie would be a better option if you could stand not being able to order anything you like out of the seed/bulb catalogues the way you can in Canada! Worse in NZ, remember! (and they haven't heard of Collingwood! :o ) The West Coast of Canada may be the best bet afterall!
cheers
fermi

Fermi, you might be able to order seeds and bulbs here but try looking for special hardy geraniums and clematis and there's very little to choose from.
Not many nurseries that do mail order either. Seeing all the goodies on the other side of the border is no doubt similar to the way you feel without imports.

Lesley, will look at real estate around some of those areas later. Not that I can afford to move anywhere but it's fun looking. I especially love looking at the kitchens.
Btw, with regard to Australian quarantine regs, it's a bit of a joke when they are now going to allow apples from countries that have diseases that are not present in Oz.

Chris, I thought BC was cool, or is that just Vancouver?
Summer here rarely gets above 28C, nobody told me about the humidex!!!!
I say if it feels like 36 it has to be 36!!

Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: BryanEmery on February 06, 2012, 02:59:13 PM
Helen

On the island some years it will get to mid 30s but it still cools down at night, but that tends to just be for a week in the summer. Most summer days it is 22-28, but with a nice sea breeze. As for hardy geraniums, have you looked at the list from thimble farms? They have a bunch!

B
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: maggiepie on February 06, 2012, 04:44:37 PM
Yes, Bryan, have looked often at the FTF catalogue.
Unfortunately, they don't have the species geraniums that I am really wanting.

Re the summers on the island, hot days aren't so bad if it cools down at night, sea breeze sounds great.

Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 06, 2012, 08:23:02 PM
Re diseases not in Australia, I don't intend to get into that argument but the one they're bothered about from NZ apples cannot be transported on the fruit (so the growers tell me). We, in our commercial wisdom import out-of-season apples and grapes and others from California. Tarantulas and other creepies have been caught from time to time. If, as will undoubtedly happen, the glassy-winged sharpshooter comes with the grapes, our wine industry will be totally destroyed within 10 years. And they worry about half a dozen seeds of a rare fritillaria!  >:(

I applied for Geranium farreri from the AGS list and would happily have shared it with you Helen (probably there would have been perhaps only 3-5) but it was one of very few first choices I didn't get.
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: maggiepie on February 06, 2012, 08:28:52 PM
Lesley, what is a glassy winged sharpshooter?

Too bad about G. farreri, if I eventually track some down I will definitely send you some.
Seems to be as scarce as hen's teeth.


Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: ChrisB on February 06, 2012, 09:34:01 PM
It was definitely up at 28 all the time I was there last, (2 months).  Hardly a day of cool in that, and humid with it.  But i was inland a bit, Abbotsford to be precise.  But I watched the forecasts every day and it seemed to be the same heat everywhere, even on the island.  And that wasn't my first trip there either, whenever I'd been out there it was too warm for me.  I'm much happier at 18-20 myself, especially for gardening.  Can't do anything when it gets too hot, all I want to do is stay indoors and drink cold drinks....
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 06, 2012, 09:36:59 PM
Sharpshooters are a kind of insect which carry/spread Pierce's disease, a fatal disease of grapevines. It is widespread from Florida to California (where we import grapes from) and also in central America I think. It is called Xylella fastidiosa and it is this pest that any bulbs I import from Tassie must be specifically free from, on the phyto cert. Marcus has to guarantee, in writing that the bulbs and his nursery are free from it. I doubt if it is in Australia or we wouldn't be able to import from there at all.
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: maggiepie on February 06, 2012, 09:45:57 PM
I'm with you Chris, 21-23 is perfect for me.
Except indoors in Winter.

Lesley, they sound horrendous.
Am surprised they haven't wiped out the Californian vineyards.
Hard to believe anyone free of the pest would risk importing anything that they could piggyback in on.
Or is this a WTO ruling?


Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 07, 2012, 12:39:39 AM
I'm with you Chris, 21-23 is perfect for me.
Except indoors in Winter.

Lesley, they sound horrendous.
Am surprised they haven't wiped out the Californian vineyards.
Hard to believe anyone free of the pest would risk importing anything that they could piggyback in on.
Or is this a WTO ruling?




It could well be, on the basis that the grapes are inspected as they arrive but even the most stupid of us know that about 1 in 10 or 1 in 100 crates of fruit or whatever else, is inspected.
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: fermi de Sousa on February 07, 2012, 06:40:10 AM
Hard to believe anyone free of the pest would risk importing anything that they could piggyback in on.
Or is this a WTO ruling?
It could well be, on the basis that the grapes are inspected as they arrive but even the most stupid of us know that about 1 in 10 or 1 in 100 crates of fruit or whatever else, is inspected.
Lesley,
I think that's the same argument that the apple growers here are using! ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 07, 2012, 08:54:45 AM
I guess you're right Fermi. If we're to remain friends perhaps we'd better talk of alpines, not apples. ;D ???
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: BryanEmery on February 20, 2012, 01:27:29 AM
Just back from my trip it thimble farms! Some amazing hellebores, edgeworthia, rhodos, bulbs and spring ephemerals. So much fun!
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: gote on March 09, 2012, 02:24:52 PM
! It is certainly my experience that the western trilliums are realtively easy from seed, but I haven't great experience of growing eastern species.
I have no problems in growing  the eastern species from seed. Indeed they do it by themselves. However, not those from the very south parts. Those I cannot grow at all. Not necessarily because they freeze to death in the winter - they seem to need higher (soil?) temperatues than I normally have.
Göte 
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Tim Ingram on March 11, 2012, 09:55:21 AM
To stress my belief in growing plants from seed here are a few potfuls of trillium seedlings, chloropetalum and kurabayashii, conservation at the level of gardening!
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Tim Ingram on March 11, 2012, 09:56:50 AM
Oops pressed the wrong button!
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Diane Whitehead on March 11, 2012, 05:46:07 PM
The discussion diverged to North American trilliums, so Maggie put all the trillium
discussion into a new topic.  I think it is "Trilliums 2012".  Obviously a remnant
remains since you have responded and it is happening again.

No, wrong title.  They got put into "A tempting nursery in British Columbia"
Title: Re: A nursery in British Columbia and Trilliums from seed
Post by: Maggi Young on March 11, 2012, 06:54:56 PM
The discussion diverged to North American trilliums, so Maggie put all the trillium
discussion into a new topic.  I think it is "Trilliums 2012".  Obviously a remnant
remains since you have responded and it is happening again.

No, wrong title.  They got put into "A tempting nursery in British Columbia"

I'ver moved some posts again!
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