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Specific Families and Genera => Primula => Topic started by: Mark Griffiths on January 22, 2012, 07:01:51 PM
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I can't believe I'm the first! I expect I'm not and you'll have to move it.
P. allionii Elizabeth Burrow has been out since Christmas - looking a bit better now. P. allionii Pinkie is also out - unfortunately most of the plants are dusted with sulphur and look like something that would be growing on Miss Faversham's windowsill
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Good to see such early blooms.
I like Primula allionii and its assorted forms but I cannot bear the feel of the sticky foliage.
That, and my reluctance to sit with tweezers cleaning off all the grotty leaves every year, means that I was quite quick to give up on them. :-[
I have considerable admiration for my friends who will sit for hours cleaning their allionii plants up.
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I don't do much cleaning up.
For years I didn't ever water the pots either - like 5 year stretch - only watering the plunge.
In the new greenhouse it seems I have to water the pots as well and so I spend a few minutes pulling dead leaves off.
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Some seedlings: sibthorpii and a micro-primula (Barnaven's 'Blue Julianas' strain).
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I wasn't sure whether to post in this thread or in the I'm so Happy thread. After the postman had been yesterday I found a large cardboard box in the greenhouse. It contained 12 Irish Primulas, 6 each of 'Drumcliffe' and 'Innisfree' which I had ordered from Suttons a week ago. I could not resist the offer at £4.99. They are much bigger plants than I expected and were beautifully packed with a small stake in each pot to keep them from moving and crushing the foliage.
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6 months from seed:
Primula malacoides and Primula x kewensis
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I wasn't sure whether to post in this thread or in the I'm so Happy thread.
Looking forward to see photos of the flowers, such large healthy plants should be blooming soon. I'd be doing the "Happy Dance" too. ;D
6 months from seed:
Giles - was the seed collected from your own plants? 6 months seems incredibly fast. They are all beautiful!
Julie
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Julie,
It's a commercial seed strain: 'Prima'
(Sakata, Japan)
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Thank you Giles. Looks like you're doing an excellent job growing them. :)
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A wonderful scent from a few flowers in the greenhouse. :)
Sorry about the leaves
Had problems locating three very hungry caterpillars
and a couple of slugs. :-[
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Cheryl - Very pretty even with the nibbles.
What is the very dark one?
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It was seed grown from Garnet Cowichans.
The original plants came from Barnhaven.
I love it's very dark colour and the purple edge to the leaves and stem.
The scent to this one is rather odd, to me it smells like cough syrup...
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The scent to this one is rather odd, to me it smells like cough syrup...
Hopefully, a good flavor of cough syrup. :)
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The scent to this one is rather odd, to me it smells like cough syrup...
Hopefully, a good flavor of cough syrup. :)
Venos.... I like Venos.... I HATE Benylin....... :-X :P
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I too prefer Dionaea muscipula.
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The allionii season is stating here now after going into suspended animation for 2 weeks.
The plants, P. allionii Elizabeth Burrow, P. allionii Malcolm, P. allionii Pinkie.
The Malcolm is smaller than last year. Last year it was a perfect dome of flowers - but underneath it must have been sweating as I lost a fair amount of the plant. You can also see the green sulphur powder not yet covered up by flowers or new growth.
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Very nice Mark. Takes me back to the days when I struggled to grow them and I really miss them now.
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Why? David. What happened? ???
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Ran out of space Ron and something had to go. Mind you I've run out of space at least twice more since those days ;D
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Would you like some? :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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Ron, that's very kind but I really couldn't do them justice. I've reached saturation point and I think I shall have some hard choices to make during next summer. For example, and these are really rhetorical questions, should I continue with the range of Romulea I grow given that they exist on the lower level of my staging and not the best place to flower. Or should I grow far fewer Narcissi and Crocuses to make room for Romuleas in a better position. Should I stop growing Cyclamen under glass. Should I stop growing Junos under glass. Should I stop growing Irises under glass. When I eventually get round to adding another small greenhouse will I fill it with the hundreds of pots of seedling bulbs that are sheltered in all sorts of places round the garden or will I stop growing from seed and carry on with some of my other choices.
Such is the life of a gardener ::)
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Choices, choices. ??? ??? ???
Whatever you decide I think that growing from seed is the ultimate. Yes, not immediate satisfaction >:(, not a lot of recognition here for a few years of care, :-\, sleepless nights as to whether they will see next year, :'(, but ultimate satisfaction when they flower and you are the first person in the history of the world to see that genetic expression, ;). If you change your mind I have some you can have.
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I've reached saturation point. Such is the life of a gardener ::)
It's the weather in Devon. Every time it rains again Mrs N has to squeeze him out. ;D
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Ran out of space Ron and something had to go. Mind you I've run out of space at least twice more since those days ;D
Would you like some? :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
I thought you were offering David some space! ::)
Very generous indeed! ;D
It's too hot and dry for these sorts of primulas where I live so it's nice to see the pics on the Forum.
cheers
fermi
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You know I was thinking I had too many plants.
Then I realised the massive error in my thinking.
Of course, I too have too little space.
I'm currently looking into the idea of using higher dimensions to put the frames in. My other idea is "inflatable spaces". it just needs a little more work. I'm close to a breakthrough.
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When you've cracked it Mark do let me know how ;D
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You know I was thinking I had too many plants.
Then I realised the massive error in my thinking.
Of course, I too have too little space.
I'm currently looking into the idea of using higher dimensions to put the frames in. My other idea is "inflatable spaces". it just needs a little more work. I'm close to a breakthrough.
I've been waiting for the 4th dimension for years.
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Avoid the 5th dimension. That's where the vine weevils came from.
Pic of what I think must be an allionii hybrid. Many years ago I'd find seed pots on allionii Mary Berry - I tried them and got a number of hybrids. This one has yellow in the throat making me think it is a hybrid. I think I was growing one of the Lismore hybrids at the time. This one has a sorted of old velvet faded quality to it.
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Blooming in my greenhouse now. All grown from seed, the Primula bracteata dubernardiana from last year's SRGC seed exchange.
Marianne
Primula bracteata dubernardiana
P. megaseifolia
P. x kewensis
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An early start for these, Marianne. 8)
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Wow Marianne they are all gorgeous. Three more to add to my must have list. ;D
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Marianne,
Lovely to see that the seed I supplied to the seed exchange of Primula bracteata dubernardiana doing so well! I had one flower in January, before the cold spell, and three plants are now flowering; many more with buds on too.
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Marianne,
Lovely to see that the seed I supplied to the seed exchange of Primula bracteata dubernardiana doing so well! I had one flower in January, before the cold spell, and three plants are now flowering; many more with buds on too.
Isn't it grand to be able to see and share these plant experiences in this way? A reward for the kind donors to see how their seed is growing and being appreciated thousands of miles away 8)
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Peter, I am so glad you came forward as the donor of the seed for the P. bracteata. As a grower it is very nice to be able to share when things work out well. The little plant has more buds to come. I feel very fortunate to have gotten some of the seed, and hope it will survive our climate.
Marianne
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Outdoors:
Primula vulgaris 'Taigetos'
P.elatior
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'Wisley Red'
Feathered polyanthus seedling (calyx)
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Greenhouse:
Cowichans
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;D
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Giles, thank you for showing us these goodies,
here are 2 Pr. allionii from my Alpine house:
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Lovely plants both of you.
Marianne
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Lovely Cowichans. Giles did you grow them from seed?
A close up of John Fielding
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Fine photo of Primula fedtschenkoi just been posted by Jan in the crocus pages... I'll repeat it here
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Oh my... fedtschenkii; I think I just drooled a little on my keyboard from having my mouth open.
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malá rarita
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A white Primula fedtschenkoi, WOW :o :o
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Primula hyb.
Allioni avalanche x Allionii grandiflora
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Is that one of your own hybrids Michael, it's very nice?
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Yes David,I only grow hybs. Some people only grow species, but I dabble pollen on everything and only grow hybs. I is more exciting as you never know what you might get, and the plants are more vigorous. Probably a age thing. :)
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:'( :-X
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The P. fedtschenkoi is a super thing and to have a white in the middle is a great bonus. What a beautiful species it is.
Giles the 'Wisley Red' is a little beauty. It looks like maybe a hybrid between juliae and 'Wanda?' do you know anything of its history?
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The Primula season has started in my garden.
This one is very denticulata-ish. Maybe it is but I think it is seed from one of Chadwell's allocations.
The new buds are very farinose. However, the slugs find the newly opened flowers irresistible >:(
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Giles
What are the defining characteristics of your 'Taigetos'? It doesn't look that different to a form that crops up in my garden from time to time and I am sure my predecessors here didn't buy in special plants.
Erle
Anglesey
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Hello,
Wisley Red is a hybrid with some juliae parentage that has been around since the 60's I gather.
I got the 'Taigetos' from Lady Skelmersdale. It's a wild collection from Greece. It flowers earlier than some of my other white primroses, such as 'Gigha' by about 2 weeks. Otherwise, just a white primrose.
(also available in blue, Barnhaven Blues seedling)
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Butterscotch Osiered Amber
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Butterscotch is lovely.
I bought Primulas at Loughborough :D
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Love those Barnhaven primulas, Giles. I haven't had seed from them for a while - too difficult to decide what to order and too difficult to cope with the number which germinate.
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Some primulas flowering now
Primula 'Lismore Yellow'
Primula 'Innisfree'
Primula denticulata 'Alba'
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Innisfree was bred by Joe Kennedy from N. Ireland
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Flowering now in the Alpine House
Pr.allionii Gabriele and Elke Weiß are own seedlings, raised
almost 20 years ago.
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Roma, I've been looking for 'Lismore Yellow' for a few years now with no success. If you get a spare offset please I'll do a swop with you.
Lovely little hybrids Rudi, you do grow them well.
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Innisfree was bred by Joe Kennedy from N. Ireland
As it would be with a name like that. What a super plant with that dark foliage and brilliant flower.
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Primula obconica kept indoors
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Lakriskongen - very beautiful obconica.
Here is my Primula vulgaris 'Quaker's Bonnet' getting soaked.
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5 primroses collected by a forumist in Turkey, and kindly sent to me :)
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The remaining two:
(there are more, but they are a bit tatty from the weather)
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Oxlip
Blutenkissen
Blue Riband
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Red ground Gold Laced seedling
Harbinger
Gilded Ginger
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Does the third one in your first set differ much from sibthorpii Giles? Nice show.
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My favourite - a large smokey pink seedling
..and just to show how colourful this time of year can be (the Crescendo series of bedding polyanthus)
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I'll leave that to someone braver than me, David. I just like growing them :)
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;D
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Abolutely super primroses, Giles. The Turkish ones are clearly in very good hands!
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I just like growing them
Me too and you do it very well Giles. All your primroses are beautiful!
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A couple from me.
A Brian Burrow(?) allionii selection and P.allionii Crystal - opens white and turns pink.
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Brian Burrow certainly raised some exceptional Primulas.
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P. allionii (and the hybrids) are all very lovely and floriferous. I'll definitely be looking for seed on next year's lists. ;D
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Brian Burrow certainly raised some exceptional Primulas.
And Brian is an exceptional lecturer, as we discovered once again at our East Lancashire AGS Group meeting on Monday last.
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Petite auricula Ivan Agee blooming in the greenhouse.
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Julie, are you sure you don't have a label malfunction? Your plant looks very much like Primula marginata 'Ivy Agee'
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I think probably the last one for this season. Ken Wooster's "Eureka", a pure white allionii, no petal reflexing (hurrah!) and a nice texture.
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Julie, are you sure you don't have a label malfunction? Your plant looks very much like Primula marginata 'Ivy Agee'
Julie's plant is saying Primula allionii to me..... I know there is a marginata called Ivy Agee.... but that plant is not it, I don't think. .
Here's a link to a pic on Michal Hoppel's site :http://www.alpines.home.pl/p/Joomla/index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=43&catid=25&PageNo=3
and for the plant:
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Julie, are you sure you don't have a label malfunction?
David - Evidently it was a partial memory malfunction. ;)
Julie's plant is saying Primula allionii to me.
Maggi - you're definitely correct 'Ivy Agee' is beautiful but definitely not my plant.
Possibly an auricula x allionii? I bought the plant at a sale several years ago. Evidently petite auricula hybrids were grown by the late Herb Dickson.
Ooops - forgot to add the photo of the label (so here it is) - batting zero on this post. ::)
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Mark - 'Eureka' is very aptly named!
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Ah, it becomes clearer. Ivanel (shortened to Ivy) Agee was an American Primula breeder and she did indeed raise P. marginata 'Ivy Agee' which, I agree with Maggi, is not Julie's plant. Julie's plant could well be, going by the label, a relation to a plant previously bred by Ivanel. It could have some allionii in it and I feel it's also got some marginat in it too. I bet it grows like a cabbage in some good soil in a shady part of the garden.
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Ah, it becomes clearer. Ivanel (shortened to Ivy) Agee was an American Primula breeder and she did indeed raise P. marginata 'Ivy Agee' which, I agree with Maggi, is not Julie's plant. Julie's plant could well be, going by the label, a relation to a plant previously bred by Ivanel. It could have some allionii in it and I feel it's also got some marginat in it too. I bet it grows like a cabbage in some good soil in a shady part of the garden.
Thank you for the history lesson David. I am too afraid to plant it out in the garden. When it gets a little bigger, I will do some cuttings and try with those. I'd love to have it growing like a cabbage. ;D
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Three years ago I raised a batch of what were labelled P. marginata, from surplus seed. There were about 30 plants in all. I kept them all until they flowered because the foliage in a few was pure marginata but about 3/4 had foliage ranging through most of the auricula group, including allionii and the larger glutinosa, etc. I figured they were from collected seed and included a range of hybrids. In the meantime, almost all have flowered now and every flower is pure marginata, both in colour and form. Very nice plants but not the variation of bloom that the initial seedlings led me to hope for.
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Very nice plants but not the variation of bloom that the initial seedlings led me to hope for.
That can be very disappointing to wait for several years and not be what you wanted.
I raised some auricula hybrids from seed back in 2000 and some had marginata foliage and the blooms were a wide variety of color. When they were in bloom, the greenhouse smelled heavenly. Within a few years, I lost them all. The kids drowned them in the heat of summer (vacations don't work well when you have a ton of plants). I still feel guilty when I look at the photos. I lost my Daphne 'Briggs Moonlight' that same vacation (the kids didn't notice that a mole had pushed it clear out of the ground).
On a more pleasant note, this is a Primula veris 'Sunset Shades' I grew from seed a couple of years ago. My friend wants me to enter something in the National Primula show next month. I've never entered a show before, so I may chicken out. :-\
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Giles your Gilted Ginger is lovely
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Giles your Gilted Ginger is lovely
Yes, Giles, it's superb - you grow so many lovely varieties.
Maybe Maggi would consider changing your title to "Prince of Primula"?
cheers
fermi
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I was in Homebase today where I saw and bought Primula 'Cheshire Life'
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I was in Homebase today where I saw and bought Primula 'Cheshire Life'
Beautiful, Mark!
I wouldn't have hesitated a second buying had I found it here!
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Primula acaulis self seedlings in my rock garden.
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Oh Franz, we can show our brightest and best then you quietly come up with the perfect picture of superb plants, placed, even though self-seeded, as if by the Master's hand. The primroses in such a position are outstanding.
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Thank you Lesley, I'm just lucky.
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Thank you Lesley, I'm just lucky.
Lucky to be so green-fingered, Franz. Beautiful primulas.
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One of the few Primulas I still grow- Primula 'Blue Wave'. In Primula showing circles this is sometimes shown as x pubescens and sometimes as a border Auricula. I have spread it around a bit over the years but haven't seen anyone else posting pictures of it! I should have a few offsets to spare later in the year if anyone is interested (Armin, one has your name on it)
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David,
I'm pleased to see 'Blue Wave' so excellent grown with you. It has a fabulous blue velvet color 8) 8)
Sadly, the bare frost from February has killed my 'Blue Wave' and also the P. auricula planted nearby.
I still had some hopes for a recovery as a few rhizomes showed some green tips but all parts turned into yellow brown and rotted. :'(
In memory of the beauty I'll post a picture of better times...
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Primula sibthorpii, multi-coloured flowering today in my garden. It's amazing how quickly these have grown - I sowed "green" seed last year, planted out seedlings late summer.
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That's a speedy result, David - and a very good range of flower colour.
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Some Border Auriculas:
Windways Mystery
Winifred
Old Cottage Blue
Old Clove Red
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Hi!
Something Primulas 2012:
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Best regards! zvone
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They're very pretty Zvone. Have they a nice scent?
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One of the few Primulas I still grow- Primula 'Blue Wave'. In Primula showing circles this is sometimes shown as x pubescens and sometimes as a border Auricula. I have spread it around a bit over the years but haven't seen anyone else posting pictures of it! I should have a few offsets to spare later in the year if anyone is interested (Armin, one has your name on it)
David,
Like Armin I still grow your 'Blue Wave' and treated it as a border Auricula. It survived a severe winter recently
(with no snowcover), but unfortunately no flowers this time.
Sorry, no pics because of problems with my camera.
Gerd
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Primula sibthorpii, multi-coloured flowering today in my garden. It's amazing how quickly these have grown - I sowed "green" seed last year, planted out seedlings late summer.
Dave, very lovely to see the primulas.
Do you know the distinctive feature of P. vulgaris and P. vulgaris ssp. sibthorpii?
I can't find any ???
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They're very pretty Zvone. Have they a nice scent?
Thank's Lesley!
Of course smells . Gently and freshly.
Best regards! Zvone
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Now for some white primroses:
Craddock White
Schneekissen/Snowcushion
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Both of these obtained as 'Gigha'
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P. vulgaris heterochroma, from a forumist last year. It grows like a weed
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P. x wanda 'Tomato Red'
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I've now decided to grow 'cushion plants' 8)
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Super primula and primrose, Giles!! :)
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I've now decided to grow 'cushion plants' 8)
It's not so very far from that one to a Dionysia Giles. Better be careful. :)
I love all those little whites.
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According to all the pundits P. allionii will not grow well outside, This P.a. Beatrice Wooster has been outside for at least 4 years with no attention even over the last few dreadful winters. Not as good as when grown under cover perhaps, but not too bad I think.
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One or two primroses
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edited so they fit on screen
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Impressive colorful bed :o 8) - is it yours?
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done
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Armin, I wish!
I did get wet snowdrop Primula knees today. I inspected them all closely.
The smell .. if only I could have bottles it
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David I edited the photos because they were too big
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How does he keep them "pure", or doesn't he bother?
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P. vulgaris heterochroma, from a forumist last year. It grows like a weed
I had P. vulgaris heterochroma too but lost it by black frost. I hope it did spread enough seed so that seedlings will appear.
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Mark, is this in the garden showed in Gardeners World?
Looks great!
Lina.
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No not the garden on Gardeners World.
I need to tell everyone the owner of these primroses, for obvious reasons, wants no publicity
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It looks as if there are some x Garryade forms in there Mark, the dark leaved ones. One form looks quite like 'Guinivere.' Whatever, they are really magnificent.
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According to all the pundits P. allionii will not grow well outside, This P.a. Beatrice Wooster has been outside for at least 4 years with no attention even over the last few dreadful winters. Not as good as when grown under cover perhaps, but not too bad I think.
No wonder as Primula ´Beatrice Wooster´ is not a pure allionii but a cross. It could not be called P. allionii.
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I know virtually nothing about Primulas other than to watch out for vine weevils. This is a Primula which I've had for 16 or more years and has never given any trouble. I have no idea if it is at all notable and would appreciate any assessments. It came from Germany and I doubt it has been formally named. If it is worthwhile I will make sure a nurseryman in the UK gets a chunk as I'd hate to see it lost in my care.
Primula vulgaris ssp sibthorpii 'Dr Borgeson'
johnw 4c and blustery.
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Primula Harlow Carr
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This lovely little thing was a gift.
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Nice Dave. Just a tip-Vine Weevils regard Primulas as a special treat and a grit top dressing on your pots will help to deter them. I also water with Provado twice during the growing season.
A few pics:-
Primula 'Eden Blue Star' is a Border Auricula but one of the smaller ones and I choose to grow it in a pot rather than it getting lost in the garden.
Primula 'Blue Wave'- I posted this a few days ago but have posted it again for two reasons. Firstly it has more flowers open now and secondly for comparison with below.
Blue Wave seedling. One or two people have asked me in the past if Blue Wave produced seed and if so what the seedlings were like. Well it has done in the past and here is one of it's seedlings. I have to say that it looks significantly better in the picture than it does in the garden where it takes on a rather muddy brown shade. I have another seedling in bud so it will be interesting to compare them.
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John does your primrose always fade to such a nice shade of blue? It's lovely.
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A selection of P. auricula's
inc. 'Dusty Miller', 'Dick Rogers' and 'Bush Baby'
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Nice Dave. Just a tip-Vine Weevils regard Primulas as a special treat and a grit top dressing on your pots will help to deter them. I also water with Provado twice during the growing season.
And noted thank you.
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Some primroses:
'Hall Barn Blue'
'Iris Mainwaring'
'Rosemary Cottage'
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'Perle von Bottrop'
lilacina plena aka 'Quakers Bonnet'
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Armin,
If you would like a heterochroma, pm me your address and I will post one to you.
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Davey, you may be pleased to know that a plant of P. x Pubescens 'Harlow Carr' will frequently throw a double sport, just the same creamy colour, delicately washed with pale pink. It's very pretty.
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Primula sieboldii cultivars
'Cherubim'
'Senyuu'
'Sangoguko'
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A few auriculas just coming into bloom now:
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Lovely, perfect flowers, Chris.
Lina.
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Thank you Lina. I just love them, they are amazing to me every year....
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I just love them, they are amazing to me every year....
They are great flowers: just looking at 'Blue Chip' to see the quite extraordinary marking and colouring.... it is captivating 8)
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Those are exquisite Chris. Such rich colours.
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Its so easy to get hooked on these amazing flowers. I've had to tell myself that I'm not going to get any more as I can't look after the ones I've got now properly. There are always a couple of specialist nurseries at the Harrogate Flower Show with loads of new ones so I have to build up my resistance before I go....
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And such a delicious perfume too. :)
Chocolate is very good for building resistance to other addictions. ;D
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So I'll tuck into my Easter Egg then Lesley knowing its good for me.....
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Davey, you may be pleased to know that a plant of P. x Pubescens 'Harlow Carr' will frequently throw a double sport, just the same creamy colour, delicately washed with pale pink. It's very pretty.
Cheers Lesley you a star for naming it for me.Any guesses for the name of this little one,on the label it says Primula beaulry white.
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Primula marginata
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Primula cortusoides
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I picked this plant up at ther garden centre a few weeks ago.
It was in the clearance section ( cheap ;)) just because it had a few old leaves browned at the edges.
More interesting than eye-catching ;D.
Now I have a few healthy large plants to split later this year :D
Primula Francesca
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That is lovely Fred
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Dave, going from your label it is probably 'Bewerley White' in the x pubescens group. In "Primulas-The Complete Guide" by the late Mary Robinson she says "This was the name given to a batch of seedlings, so there are several variations on the theme. The plant most commonly available as 'Bewerley White' is pin-eyed and has quite compact leaves well pwdered in farina and loose heads of creamy flowers on 4" (10cm) stems.
Mary Robinson's book was first published in 1990 with a re-print in 1994, published by Crowood and though obviously out of date is still a very useful book. I wish someone would write another like it.
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£6 on Abe Books. I may just invest in one David....
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Well worth it Chris. Another one of Mary Robinson's "Auriculas for Everyone', published 2000 by Guild of Master Craftsman Publications. I used it as my "Bible" in my Auricula growing days.
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Dave, going from your label it is probably 'Bewerley White' in the x pubescens group. In "Primulas-The Complete Guide" by the late Mary Robinson she says "This was the name given to a batch of seedlings, so there are several variations on the theme. The plant most commonly available as 'Bewerley White' is pin-eyed and has quite compact leaves well pwdered in farina and loose heads of creamy flowers on 4" (10cm) stems.
Mary Robinson's book was first published in 1990 with a re-print in 1994, published by Crowood and though obviously out of date is still a very useful book. I wish someone would write another like it.
David WOW cheers for that love the background info as well.
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Back in 1993 when I was last in the UK and visited (can't remember his name, you'll know who I mean, a nursery near Pershore) he had and let me have, Primula 'White Linda Pope' as it was then, but also gave me a plant of what he called P. x Pubescens 'White Lady' and said it was much better. I found that to be true because it stayed pure white whereas LP goes the very palest lilac colour when grown outside, as it is here. Unfortunately I have since lost 'White Lady.' She had more typical x Pubescens foliage, without farina and very large flowers, a really outstanding plant. Just remembered, it was Ron Beeston. I had 'Bewerly White' at one stage too. Wonder where that went. ???
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Just to really like them... ;D http://www.hillviewhardyplants.com/primulas.lasso
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Lesley, I think I may have the plant you are describing. I just got it at the Hexham Show too, from the members stall, sold by the Smethursts. It's pure white flowers are borne more closely to the foliage, which is quite sticky, indicating the allionii genes. It is labelled P. allionii x Linda Pope. Could this be the same plant?
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Nothing as confusing as white Primulas in the naming department.
Here's what Mary Robinson says:-
'White Lady' ".... could be described as a white flowered version of 'Linda Pope'. This vigorous plant has large flattish thrum-eyed flowers, nicely ruffled, in drumstick type heads. There appears to be two forms of this plant in cultivation, one of which seems identical to 'White Linda Pope' " and,
'White Linda Pope' A white seedling from Linda Pope named in 1970. The original is believed lost, but occasionally sister seedlings under the same name are available. The plant around at the moment under that name is very slow to give offsets"
Here's what I had as 'White Linda Pope' back in 2006 having bought it un-flowered as 'Linda Pope'. So it was only my assumption that it was 'White Linda Pope'.
Even the more modern varieties cause confusion. A couple of years ago at the South West AGS Show I was chatting to Dave Philby (a doyen of Primula growers and Jon Evans' father-in-law) about a couple of plants of Primula 'Blindsee' on the benches. One was pure white, the other a creamy white. "Are both those right Dave" I said. "No" he replied "only one of 'em is and that ones mine".
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Not sure mine is the same as yours David. Mine has definte allionii foliage, very sticky, no farina and no drumstick flower heads. The stems are within the foliage, as an allionii so they appear just at the tips of the leaves, but it is pure white. I've got something called Linda Pope, the foliage has large, distinctly toothed, leaves and a lot of farina. I've yet to flower it.... First two pics are my new acquisition and the last one a pic of what I have as Linda Pope (not necessarily the white form as I've not flowered it).
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I meant to add, that the label says Ryal, which indicates they probably got it from Ruth Haddon of Ryal Nursery. Ruth has the National Collection of P. marginata and is a stickler for nomenclature....
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Chris, as far as your 'Linda Pope' is concerned Mary Robinson says ".... the leaves have large rounded teeth and are very distinct from the other marginatas....." and yours seems to fit that description. As far as the flowers are concerned she says "The flat, almost blue flowers have a prominent white eye" and "A beautiful plant with large heads of flowers on 6-8 inch stems". I hope it's true but it would be a surprise since it was raised around 1911. Maybe your little white one is an allionii x raised at Ryal. Wonder what the Smethursts bought it as?
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David, The Smethurst label says P. allionii x Linda Pope and it really is a pure white with no intention of fading to any other colour. But there's a lot of allionii in it, apart from the slight toothing on the edge. Can't wait to see the flowers Linda Pope produces. Only had it one hear and had an infestation of mealy aphids at the roots. Two doses of Provado seems to now have cured that, and she is growing well and strong now. By next year should be looking really good. Do you want a piece if a bit falls off when I'm repotting?
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The attached picture shows the plant which I got as White Linda Pope many years ago from a fellow rockgardener.
Other plants are P.marginata 'Casterino' and P.carniolica.
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I'd hesitate to give any opinions here as my experience of these whites is very limited. Except to say that what Ron B sold me as "White Linda Pope' is identical to the purple version except for flower colour. The habit, farina on the leaves and the chunky, elephant's ear leves with large, rounded indentations are the same. I still have this plant though have come close to losing it a couple of times.
I don't think yours Chris, is similar to my 'White Lady,' which had beautifully formal flowers, rounded and in drumhead-like bunches, as David's quotation mentions. It started palest creamy white then whitened to pure white with age. There was no stickiness about the foliage so I doubt if allionii was involved.
White LP had always been a holy grail-type plant for me so when RB said 'White Lady' was better, I was very sceptical (under my breath), but he was right, a most beautiful plant.
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Meant to mention that some years ago I gave a plant of the white 'Linda Pope' (doesn't that have a different name now?) to Louise Salmond of Hokonui Alpines. In time Louise raised and sold a few of a white-flowered seedling from it, with heavily farina-ed leaves, a lovely thing which she listed as 'Hokonui White.' Of course I bought it and after the second flowering collected quite a lot of seed which when IT flowered, produced these below. I've since raised a lot of seedlings from these in the picture and hope to have first flowers this coming spring, hoping of course, for a white or two in the second generation. The probably pollinator of 'Hokonui White' though, was my own seedling 'Rose Window' as it was growing immediately beside.
As you see below, 'Hokonui White' starts quite creamy then whitens.
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Wow, very nice Lesley. Its so exciting watching flowers open when you've grown them from seed. I have, in the past, crossed various diascias and grown from seed produced, looking at the creations I've produced gave me a lot of pleasure. The range of colours in your primulas are amazing. I think my white one is mostly allionii, but the foliage is not as tight as it is in others, showing the genetic background of Linda Pope a little. I shall grow it with great interest to see what it does, and I'll contact Ruth to ask her if she knows anything more about it. She generally comes to our AGS meetings, and I'm sure she'll be at the next as we've got Pam Everleigh speaking.
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Just went out to take a few pics in the greenhouse. Its soooo cold today with the wind. But the primulas are very happy with this climate so I shouldn't grumble.
Primula x ciliata
Primula x pubescens 'Christine'
Primula auricula 'The Baron'
Primula Kusum Krishna
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Just went out to take a few pics in the greenhouse. Its soooo cold today with the wind. But the primulas are very happy with this climate so I shouldn't grumble.
Primula x ciliata
Primula x pubescens 'Christine'
Primula auricula 'The Baron'
Primula Kusum Krishna
Been raining most of today here... drying up a little now.
Primula x ciliata- neat and pretty
You really SHOULD have that 'Christine', shouldn't you? It's meant to be! :)
Wonderful "edible" colour on 'The Baron'
Do you know that 'Kusum Krishna' was raised by Graeme Butler of Rumbling Bridge? :D
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Can P. Redpoll live out in the garden in a trough? Does it need winter protection?
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Mark, I just looked yours up, its petiolaris type. Check out instructions for them, I've killed quite a few in my time. Someone here will know what to do. You are wet over there so that's helpful at least.
Maggi - Yes, I just had to get Christine, thought I should own that one. And yes, I did know that the Kusum Krishna was bred by Graeme, Ian Bainbridge told me at Hexham the other week. Its a real beauty.
The Baron is from the Plant Heritage plant exchange, so must have two or fewer entries in the Plantfinder, so a bit scarce. Interesting colour isn't it? Almost orange. I get a few plants through the exchange and then, where possible, propagate and give them back in the hopes of keeping them going. I used to do it a lot with the diascias once upon a time.... but not any more.
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Once again we have plants in the garden, that we dont know the name of. ::) ::) I'm sure its not possible to 'Name' this but if someone could point us somewhere close it would be appreciated. :) We were given a number of Primula years ago and foolishly never recorded their names. :-[. Sucess today in other Genera has prompted us to ask if the Primula experts can help also, please.
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Very pretty Primula marginata form, Ron. The flowers are a very clear colour, no apparent "rings" in the centre so that may help the boffins pin down a named form.
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Once again, thank you Maggi. :). Thats good enough for us. I suspect there must be so many that look similar on a picture.
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Can P. Redpoll live out in the garden in a trough? Does it need winter protection?
Yes, it could do. Might need a cover over if very wet winter.
Once again, thank you Maggi. :). Thats good enough for us. I suspect there must be so many that look similar on a picture.
Okay, then I'm happy to have been of help ;)
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Ron could your primula be Holly Leaf?
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Sorry Mark. I really have no idea. I don't know Primula at all. :(
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This is mine
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Thats well named Mark! ;D
No, our plants leaves are nothing like that.
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What kind of primula is 'Kusum Krishna' please? It's hard to tell from the flowers alone. Lovely plant.
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here a question ( special to the german members ) :
Knows anybody a source for Primula juliae ( pruhoniciana ) cultivars ?
They are really difficould to find >:(
I grow Wanda ,Schneewittchen,John Mo ...and I looking for some other :-\
Thank you
Hans
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Primula juliae
Hans I can ask the Primula grower over here
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Hi Lesley,
I don't know the cross, got it from Edrom last year, but its a cracking good plant. Foliage as big as that of Linda Pope, and it surely must have some marginata genes in it, but what else I really don't know. I'll try to find out, maybe Maggi knows Graeme to ask him?
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Primula juliae
Hans I can ask the Primula grower over here
Hi Mark ,
yes that would be fine :D
I'm looking for the old german cultivars like :
Bergfrühling
Schneeriesin
Saladin
Thank you
Hans
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What kind of primula is 'Kusum Krishna' please? It's hard to tell from the flowers alone. Lovely plant.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4976.msg150464#msg150464
another photo of the plant
Quote from: Roma on April 30, 2010, 09:29:09 PM
Two interesting Primulas I bought recently.
First - Primula 'Kusum Krishna'. I thought at first glance, Primula sonchifolia but the leaves are different and unusual. The label says, a new hybrid raised in Scotland, but does not give the raiser or parentage. Does anybody know any more ?
my reply:
This primula has been raised by Graeme and Hilary Butler of Rumbling Bridge Nursery.
They describe Primula x ‘Kusum Krishna’ as a deep blue, white eyed Auricula."Our best hybrid yet, received a P.C. in 2007. Large, stunning deep, blue flrs. Stemless habit."
and later this :I found the parentage.....P. auricula x P. hirsuta Cheesy
...and a photo of a plant at an AGS show....http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/274113/ which really shows the foliage and the deep colour of the buds
http://rumblingbridgenursery.co.uk
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My golly that's a fabulous plant Chris and Maggi. The photo in your link Maggi is just stunning with the slightly inturned white edge. No wonder the breeder is proud of it, Rightly so!
The juliae hybs (x Pruhoniciana) include some early ones. I had 'Ideal' many years ago and recently was able to get 'Iris Mainwaring' again. Someone posted that one here a day or two ago. Pretty flesh-coloured flowers. There are several illustrated in Mansfield's "Alpines in Colour and Cultivation." I had 'E R Janes' at one stage but haven't seen or heard of that one for years.
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Hans,
I've got 'Blutenkissen' and 'Schneekissen'. I could send these with the 'Perle von Bottrop' on Monday, if that's of help.
(apologies re photos, it's been very wet here recently)
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Many thanks Giles ;D ;D ;D
I will write you a PM !
Hans
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Primula juliae
Hans I can ask the Primula grower over here
Hi Mark ,
yes that would be fine :D
I'm looking for the old german cultivars like :
Bergfrühling
Schneeriesin
Saladin
Thank you
Hans
Hans, as far as I kow Bergfruhling is a seed strain and Jelitto stock it see here
https://www.jelitto.com/haupt_en.html
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........... Do you want a piece if a bit falls off when I'm repotting?
Whoops nearly missed this! Would you like a bit of my Primula 'Blue Wave' in exchange Chris?
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Hans, as far as I kow Bergfruhling is a seed strain and Jelitto stock it see here
Many thanks David !
I have just seen on the page of Jelitto that P. Bergfrühling 'Amarantrot' is also a product of Jelitto ...I have ordered such a plant ...
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David, - that would be very nice..... thank you....
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A nice flat or two of P. jesoana (SRGC 2011 exchange) produced, as it often does, Cortusa matthioli. Close up shows the tell-tale fused calyx.
P. hirsuta seed (also SRGC 2011) has produced some nice plants, correctly named.
Last year I had also made a request here for seed of gold/silver lace, hose-in-hose
etc to replenish all these "old-fashioned" varieties that I had to leave behind in Ontario. I was unable to get any seed from members, so off I went to commercial sources.
Here is what I have thus far.
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Another seedling from seed collected from my Primula 'Blue Wave'. This one is better than the one I posted a couple of days ago and is a rich, velvety and very dark purple.
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Kristl the yellow hose-in-hose is lovely
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David, your seedling is lovely.
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Looks as though there's a nice offset on it as well Chris, I'll put you down for that one.
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Some Primula's from the garden :
1) Primula hirsuta alba
2) Primula "Broadwell ruby" on the tufa mound
3) Primula allionii x marginata "The Best" also on Tufa
4) Primula marginata "Mauve Mist" - new acquisition, yet to be planted
5) Primula x berninae "Windrush"
6) Primula auricula "Wedgewood"
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Luc, what a nice collection!
Primula 'Wedgwood' looks great.
Lina.
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Nice selection Luc, the white hirsuta is very pretty.
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'Wedgewood' and 'Mauve Mist' are super, if their colour here is true. 8)
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All are quite gorgeous Luc. Wondering what type of soil is under all the rock in your garden?
I will be planting out some of my 'Mauve Mist' and want to give them the best chance at survival. ;D I just love the fragrance!
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Thanks everybody ! :D
The colours are true, Lesley, if anything, Mauve mist is just a bit darker than on the picture !
All are quite gorgeous Luc. Wondering what type of soil is under all the rock in your garden?
I will be planting out some of my 'Mauve Mist' and want to give them the best chance at survival. ;D I just love the fragrance!
Except the hirsuta (in neutral to slightly acid stony soil), all are on my tufa mound so quite alkaline. Mauve Mist is also going to be planted in there, Julie ! ;)
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Few more primulas today.
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Mauve Mist is particularly nice, Julie ;)
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Primula x fosteri today
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Some Primula auricula in flower here today:
Primula auricula 'Argus'
Primula auricula 'Broadwell Gold'
Primula auricula 'Dusky Yellow'
Primula auricula 'Golden Splendour'
Primula auricula 'Lintz'
Primula auricula 'Wedgewood' (I think Luc and I have the same vendour ;) ;D)
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All your primula pics make me envious ;D There are so many pretty forms and colours in this genus... ::)
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Eden Greenfinch
Lintz
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P.hidakana
P.takedana
2 from Japan, in a shady corner of the garden.
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P.juliae
'Tomato Red'
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P. sieboldii 'Coshibori'
P.sieboldii seedling
I particularly like the symmetry of the seedling - only sown July 2011.
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Primula 'Carina', a seedling of Primula x venusta was raised by a friend. The colours of the photo
are not quite true and more reddish.
Seedlings of this plant are amazingly quite uniform.
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A coincidence, Rudi, Primula 'Carina' will also be seen in the next International Rock Gardener. ;)
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Can almost smell the auiculas from here. :D 'Golden Splendour is a super double, such rich colour. 8)
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A coincidence, Rudi, Primula 'Carina' will also be seen in the next International Rock Gardener.
Franz P. who raised this fine Primula is a friend of ZZ and me.
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My primroses are suffering because of the heat :'(
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A coincidence, Rudi, Primula 'Carina' will also be seen in the next International Rock Gardener.
Franz P. who raised this fine Primula is a friend of ZZ and me.
Yes, that is the connection! It will be an update to Franto's garden :)
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Luc, living 40mn from Harelbek, i'm really surprise how your primula has early flowered.
Mine are still in buds, the ones in greenhouse has just started to flower except frondosa now gone.
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So many nice primula images from all 8) :D Obvious something one to become addicted. ;D
A wee P. vulgaris hybrid appeared in my meadow. I like the bit strange color and two flowers have 4 pedals instead of 5.
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Beautiful primula images!
Primula veris likes my meadow and grow well. Self-sown seedlings will often appear.
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How large is your meadow Franz? With the primulas, colchicums, crocuses, gentians, I'm surprised there is room for any grass or the yarrow that grows there too. ;D
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There is little grass, weed, yarrow, and some plants. The meadow is 200m ².
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Well 200 square metres has been used so beautifully. 8)
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I don't know the name of this one, but it does well each year for us. When it dies back the dead leaves remain attached and the new growth comes through it the following year. I have always left the dead leaves on. Is this the best thing to do? :)
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Having failed in repeated attempts to grow 'proper' primulas I have been amusing myself by sowing the seed from 2 unidentified polyanthus rescued from an overgrown bed in Treborth Botanic Garden. The variation in the progeny is wonderful. Photos attached of the more extreme seedlings from 2009. The plants are open pollinated but the parents are reasonably isolated from the primroses now rampant in my garden.
1. seed parent
2. pollen parent?
3. seedling 1. Almost P. veris
4. seedling 2. Red polyanthus
5. seedling 3. Red primrose
Is the red flush to the pedicels & calyces significant genetically?
Erle
Anglesey
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I don't know the name of this one, but it does well each year for us.
Looks like Primula frondosa, Ron. From the thickness of the stem, it looks fasciated which it is prone to, although varies from year to year. I don't think it matters whether you leave the old leaves on.
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agreed, frondosa. Leaving the old leaves on helps to protect the resting bud but once it starts into growth again there's no harm in snipping them off if they look untidy.
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Thank you Diane and David, for both the name and the advice. Much appreciated. :)
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Primula halleri and Primula venusta
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Lovely Wolfgang
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Then is this one also frondosa? I grew it from seed as modesta. It is less blue than Ron's but perhaps not quite so pink as here. I've also grown what appears to be the same, from seed as P. monroi ssp yargongensis, not at all similar to what I had years ago from Inshriach as yargongensis. ???
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Whatever it turns out to be, Lesley, its a lovely thing. So much flower on it!
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Lesley superb Primula :o
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Wonderfull primula, but no P. frondosa.
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Having failed in repeated attempts to grow 'proper' primulas I have been amusing myself by sowing the seed from 2 unidentified polyanthus rescued from an overgrown bed in Treborth Botanic Garden. The variation in the progeny is wonderful. Photos attached of the more extreme seedlings from 2009. The plants are open pollinated but the parents are reasonably isolated from the primroses now rampant in my garden.
1. seed parent
2. pollen parent?
3. seedling 1. Almost P. veris
4. seedling 2. Red polyanthus
5. seedling 3. Red primrose
Is the red flush to the pedicels & calyces significant genetically?
Erle
Anglesey
Erle,
lovely primula hybrids. It is many times quite surprising to see the results of 'open pollinated' seeds. Bees & Co. do a wunderful work many times.
I can't answer your question but I think this is a natural variation (pedicels) within i.e. P. veris.
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This was my primula in the winter last year. I had the other name on it as the plants were the same but from different sources. Then the second picture is a seedling from the one above and the third is the one above as it looks currently, going towards winter. I'd really like to know its true name. I'm sure it's not a rarity and can't believe that someone won't know for sure, what it is. PLEASE!
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Wonderfull primula, but no P. frondosa.
Franz, does this refer to Lesley's plant please? What would you say it was?
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Have some flowering Primula's from last week ...but I see I have problems to attach the pictures :( :-\
And in the meanwhile also found why .....
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David,
I am sorry, I can currently see no image in the new forum. I hope it will soon be possible again.
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Franz, if you do one click on the red cross where the picture used to be, the picture reappears in its larger form. Magic! ;D
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Doesn't work for me Ron.
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Really? Just one left click on the red cross.
Does a picture that is there dissapear for you when you click on it? Then come back when you click on the cross?
Edit - I seems to work on most for me but not all.
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Ron,
I seems to work on most for me but not all. Thank you!
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Really? Just one left click on the red cross.
Does a picture that is there dissapear for you when you click on it? Then come back when you click on the cross?
Just checked the pictures and crosses on this page. Reply 226-it doesn't work; Reply228-it doesn't work; Reply 233-it does work and the picture that is there reverts to a red cross when I click on it.
Most odd!
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Well blow me down, I don't even see any red crosses...I am using Opera as a browser so perhaps that is why.
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Hi,
Glad to see we can attach images again, and all the ones above are working...
This struck me as an unusually dark polyanthus. From a distance it looks black, but not close up.
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Thank goodness that Fred has sorted the hiccups so all the photos are now visible 8)
David, that lovely dark primula makes me think of the "old" varieites, which so often had that deep velvety colour. Most attractive.
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Primula sieboldii's
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Marvelous primulas from everyone.
A sight on a part of my meadow and some closer views...
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some more sieboldii's
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Very nice orange ones, Armin :)
This one not for those of a delicate constitution (reminds me of some Sax fortunei cultivars)
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Primula sieboldii Blush.
Primula sieboldii Pink Laced
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..plant out in garden, and let them get on with it.. ( ;) )
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Giles,
thanks you like the orange ones. I bought 2 plants from Renate Brinkers and they have spread. The red one possible is from Chris Boulby seed.
Your different forms and colors of P. sieboldii's are suberb! 8)
Do you grow them outside?
Michael, very beautiful! 8)
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I plant them out when they 2 yrs old.
Last one (recent purchase) 'Snowdrop'
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'Snowdrop' is stunning! :o
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David,
The leaves of Primula frondosa are heavily mealed, but become greener as summer. Its lilac-pink, yellow-eyed, umbelliferous flowers appear in late spring
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'Snowdrop' is gorgeous. :o :o :o
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Armin,
You have a beautiful meadow. I like it.
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Franz,
many thanks. I've copied the idea from a shining example ;) ;D My meadow is an ongoing experiment. It is exiting to see how it changes and the number of species increasing annually.
Primula frondosa is very lovely. 8) Is it easy to grow outside?
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Armin,
Primula frondosa is in my garden very easy outside.
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Superb image as always, Franz.
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Snowdrop is so nice Giles ;) I like all forms of sieboldii and I grow some ones but perhaps in too shady places when I see yours multiplying so well ;D
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I'm glad you like it Nicole.
Here are some more first flowerings of seedlings (Barnhaven seed):
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The last picture of the light blue is a little jewel :D
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Have some flowering Primula's from last week ...but I see I have problems to attach the pictures :( :-\
And in the meanwhile also found why .....
Ok super ! Everything is working again ....
I start with Primula magellanica wich grow here in my peatbed .
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And some more .....
Primula albenensis growing in pot .
Primula hirsuta 'Alba' in a trough .
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And again back to my peatbed to admire this Primula amethystina .
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And again back to my peatbed to admire this Primula amethystina .
And I wan't to stay there a bit longer because the red Primula maximowiczii is also flowering there ...
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His soft yellow neighbour ......Primula tangutica .
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A beautiful Primula display Kris.
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A beautiful Primula display Kris.
Thank you David ! Seems that the cold and wet weather from this moment has some advantages for this kind of plants ...
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Those are truly beautiful Kris. Thanks for sharing. Here are more of my auriculas in flower today:
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Couple more:
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Lovely Chris, you're getting to be 'dab hand'. Nice to see Joel still going strong it was raised in 1952.
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I got that new book last year David, and ordered after looking through it. Its a super plant but I think I've finally understood, after reading the book, how to look after them properly. Don't tell my hubby, but next I want an auricula theatre built on the back of the garage wall - he'll have a fit :o
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Just show him this Chris, it'll give him a starter for 10! :P
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Wonderful, Chris! 'Hinton Fields' is my favourite!
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Thanks Wim.
David, that is a theatre to be reckoned with! Is it in your back yard? No wonder you've no room to grow plants ;D
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Oh Kris, what super plants and beautifully photographed. P. amethystina, one of the "holy grail" species for me, such a thrill to see it here. Thanks so much.
And was that a plant of Dicentra 'Red Hearts' I saw in one picture behind a primula? Do you have 'White Hearts' as well?
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Oh Kris, what super plants and beautifully photographed. P. amethystina, one of the "holy grail" species for me, such a thrill to see it here. Thanks so much.
And was that a plant of Dicentra 'Red Hearts' I saw in one picture behind a primula? Do you have 'White Hearts' as well?
Thanks Lesley . I did see amethystina once in the wild when we went to Sichuan in 2007. Since that time I want to grow it at home.
I have to wait until three years to get it en until now to get it in full flower .
The Dicentra is 'Burning Hearts ' . I think one of the best introductions of the last years...
No, I don't have 'White Hearts ' , maybe something for my wishlist ?
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Dicentra '
White Ivory Hearts' is very lovely Kris and seems to come true from seed. If you'd like to try it, send me your address in a PM. I've been collecting a few seeds each week over the last month or so, including today, so they're fresh. I'd say I'm getting my drinks mixed except that I haven't been drinking. It's 'Ivory Hearts' not 'White Hearts' and I knew also that yours is 'Burning Hearts' not 'Red Hearts.'
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Amazing theatre David!! :P
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Calke Abbey think very highly of it :-X
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Sundae
P.juliae
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Border Auriculas (outdoors)
Dusky Yellow
Dale's Red
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Primula vulgaris 'Viridis'
Groundcover (white sieboldii seedlings)
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Outdoor sieboldii's
'Blush'
Pago Pago strain
Japanese seedling
'Blue Shades'
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sieboldii's under cover:
'Duanes Choice'
'Geisha Girl'
Barnhaven seedlings
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Amazing collection - and so well grown! :o
Congratulation Giles. :D
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A couple of the new Irish primulas
Primula 'Drumcliffe'
Primula 'Innisfree'
and the old variety Primula 'Chevithorne Pink'
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Roma,
very lovely and well grown, too. 8)
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One from me.
Primula frondosa.
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'Drumcliffe' is an absolute stunner, Roma ... many thanks for posting.
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My Drumcliffe and Inisfree are long over. There are 50 more Joe Kennedy primroses being micro propped
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Drumcliffe is a real winner....
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I really like 'Sundae' but also the Irish forms with their coloured foliage and compact habit. Juliae is always a favourite too.
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Primula sieboldii:
'Alba'
A couple of seedlings
'Our White'
'Queen of White'
'Snowdrop'
'Snowflake'
'Snowflakes'
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Innisfree has flowered over a long period with only a few flowers at a time and has been damaged by wind and rain. Drumcliffe is slightly more sheltered and the flowers have opened together in the centre of the plant, making an attractive posy.
I do like these white sieboldiis, Giles :)
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I love the white sieboldiis too but if the names are as listed, I can't imagine a situation more calculated to cause total confusion for growers. 'Snowdrop?' 'Snowflake?' 'Snowflakes?' There's already 'Snowwhite.' I can imagine everyone with a couple asking, which is which is which? ??? Is it really sensible to name these anyway since they set seed readily and evey batch of seedlings runs the gamut of slightly different forms? None of which of course makes any one less beautiful.
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Buck's Green
Gnome
Guinevere
Double primroses: Sundae and Miss Indigo
Mikado
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P.sieboldii seedlings
Cortusa
Primula deflexa
Primula pulverulenta
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Lovely Giles. Your soil looks really well nourished. No wonder they don't grow well here....
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Your soil looks really well nourished....
..at pH 7.8 - 8.0 something of a trial, believe me..
P.japonica
P.cockburniana
P.cernua
The last of the primroses
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Primula Japonica 'Valley Red'
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Beautiful Primula, especially your sieboldii Giles. I send pictures of three as I got this spring.
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Amazing flowers, Karl :D
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P.deflexa looking better now.
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P.sieboldii seedlings
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Been in the woods here on the island today. Lots and lots of cowslips (Primula veris). Although it is common it is nice to find huge patches (many 1000) of it.
I found the other thread with P veris after I had posted these :-\
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P deflexa is a real beauty. Gorgeous colour, elegant habit and well proportioned stems above lovely, healthy foliage. Surely a show winner if potted. :D
And the pictures of P. veris show that even the most common plants can be superb when planted en masse or when we come upon them in an unexpected way or place, performing to their natural beauty.
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Lovely primulas Giles, as always; that P. deflexa is clearly very happy with you.
What a wonderful wild garden Trond. Here it's hard to fine P. veris in such abundance any more. An old meadow near where I live was ploughed recently, as our agriculture intensifies :'(
Belatedly here are a few pictures and related questions.
Primula chionantha melanops (x2) SRGC seedex 63/3043 How does this differ from P. c. sinopurpurea?
P. tanneri also from the SRGC seedex (63/3125) which only flowered this year for the first time. However the few flowers it produced (in a rather disturbing flesh pink) remained deep in the rosette. Is this likely to be due to immaturity or to conditions?
P. x juliana 'Tomato red'
P. Silver laced group, going over now but a wonderful deep colour and lasting for weeks and weeks.
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A cold April and so far also May means that spring up here in teh north is alt least 2 weeks later that normal.
But at last I also have pics to show.
Primula sonchifolia is good this year
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Primula sonchifolia is good this year
Indeed it is!
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Oh my, Magnar ... magnificent sight.
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A few in bloom here.
Primula capitata
Primula capitata closeup
Primula linda pope
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A fabulous P. sonchifolia but I really like the very silver edge to the poly too.
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Companion planting ;D
P.sieboldii and P.japonica
P.concholoba and P.deflexa
The sieboldii was just a single growth last year.
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P.geraniifolia
P.prolifera
Polyanthus seedling
'Starry'
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The grand finale:
P.handeliana
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Primula vialii
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Primula flaccida
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The grand finale:
P.handeliana
.... of an extremely good show Giles. I've thoroughly enjoyed them all.
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Cliff and Brian, I've tried each of those a number of times and have always lost them the year after flowering. Instructions please!
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What makes you think that I won't lose it too David? It seems happy in the "moist but well drained soil" at themmoment, but it's a wonder the normal 'enemies' haven't got to it - slugs and snails seem to have taken a fancy to my seedlings from Saruma henryi and it's probably a matter of time until they find their way round the corner :-\
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I've thoroughly enjoyed them all.
-maybe an encore, then:
P.ioessa (about 5 inches high, and fragrant)
:)
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Always ready for an encore Giles.
Thanks Brian. Apart from Primula vulgaris, veris and sometimes elatior I've never had much sucess with Primulas in the garden. All of the ones listed are in and among shrubs and under a large Cornus controversa variegata (which, incidently, is now impossible to plant under so congested is the root system) so I suppose that tells me something. Everything else I've tried seems to frazzle.
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This unknown Primula has appeared from goodness knows where, and is growing in a weed infested, long forgotten seed tray that was hiding behind one of the compost heaps! We can't imagine where it came from as we grow nothing like this and our nearest neighbours have only a lawn, no flowers. Birds? An ID would be great if it's at all possible, but our guess is its just a garden hybrid / commercial something or other, :-\.
It is something we'd like to keep now, but when would be the best time to repot it, please?
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This unknown Primula has appeared from goodness knows where, and is growing in a weed infested, long forgotten seed tray that was hiding behind one of the compost heaps! We can't imagine where it came from as we grow nothing like this and our nearest neighbours have only a lawn, no flowers. Birds? An ID would be great if it's at all possible, but our guess is its just a garden hybrid / commercial something or other, :-\.
It is something we'd like to keep now, but when would be the best time to repot it, please?
It's a candelabra type, either P japonica Miller's Crimson, or P pulverulenta. I wouldn't keep it in a pot, it would prefer to be in the garden, in a damp or shady spot, so I wouldn't move it at the moment, unless you have a boggy area that doesn't dry out. Leave it until dormant in the autumn.
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Thanks for the advice Diane. I'll find a shady, moist spot by the pond in Autumn.
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;)
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Collected from Cluny last Summer,
P.ioessa, still only 5 inches high.
also
P.aurantiaca
P. serratifolia SDR5165 (overwintered planted out in a normal flowerbed - so worth trying)
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Ron, your's is P japonica. As you can see in Giles' pictures P pulverulenta is farinose up the flower stem and even heavy rain doesn't wash it all off.
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Thank you Martin. :)
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P pulverulenta is farinose
hence the name ;)
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hence the name ;)
Clever clogs ;)
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Hello! Here is a picture of Primula glutinosa. It's a lovely little primula. I think this one is a bit darker than other images I have seen.
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:)
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P.miyabeana
P.palmata
Assorted candelabras
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It's candelabra time in the garden. The first photo is P. prolifera and P. burmanica and various hybrids. The second is my first P. florindae bloom of the season. Many others are waiting in the wings for some warmer weather, I think. The rest are hybrids, including one with nice farina.
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Here are a couple of additional primulas. The first came as P. waltonii from the American Primrose Society seed exchange. I'm not sure if the name is correct. The second was given to me under the moniker P. aff. septemloba and looks correct.
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Claire,
Is it very fragrant? (is it an alpicola?)
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Giles, your question sent me out in the garden sniffing primulas! The primula has a delightfully sweet odor, but I can't tell if it's alpicola, because the P. alpicola plants I've raised from various seed exchange seeds all smell different. :P The odor most matches one I raised from seed as P. ioessa.
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I picked this plant up at ther garden centre a few weeks ago.
It was in the clearance section ( cheap ;)) just because it had a few old leaves browned at the edges.
More interesting than eye-catching ;D.
Now I have a few healthy large plants to split later this year :D
Primula Francesca
Errrrrrrrrm this plant is still in full flower :o
Certainly getting my money's worth out of this one
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Tiny Primula gemmifera
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Fred,
That's our girl! P. 'Francesca' has one of the longest seasons of interest of any primula I've grown. Enjoy!
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A little beauty who grows in the botanical garden in Tromsø 8)
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The dark velvety look of Primula euprepes is so appealing. The botanical garden in Tromsø is somewhere I would like to visit.
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The dark velvety look of Primula euprepes is so appealing. The botanical garden in Tromsø is somewhere I would like to visit.
Me too ;D It is as far from me as from you :o
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Special offer in the P&J earlier this week, Maggi - cheap flights to Tromso ;D
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Special offer in the P&J earlier this week, Maggi - cheap flights to Tromso ;D
Missed that..... will check it! Thanks Roma...... now, about you mixing my two Westies and your ponies.......
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My garden isn't secure so I couldn't let them roam free and as for the ponies - Melita wouldn't be interested and if the boys wanted to play they might be a bit rough. I must say if I wasn't just back from Gothenburg I'd be sorely tempted. I've copied the Ad in case you couldn't find it. ( It was Monday's paper)
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I've found it.... £99 each way... that's a darn good price.
That is a travel deal even I could get interested in.
...and my passport needs to be renewed. >:(
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I've found it.... £99 each way... that's a darn good price.
That is a travel deal even I could get interested in.
...and my passport needs to be renewed. >:(
Maggi, that sounds an AMAZING deal ... would it be possible to print more details please? Are there date restrictions, etc.?
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Offer is advertised by www.visitnorway.co.uk (http://www.visitnorway.co.uk) and Northern Norway.com
Travel must be booked by the 27th June Subject to availability. Travel permitted between 25th June and the 10th August.
Offer is for travel to Bodø or Tromsø . Flights from Aberdeen via Bergen, one way fare, incl. taxes and charges £99.
Lots of offers on the visitnorway site... couldn't find the Bodø/ Tromsø offer then I see in the advert that it is booked via www.wideroe.co.uk (http://www.wideroe.co.uk) ..... off to check that
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Lots of offers on the visitnorway site... couldn't find the Bodø/ Tromsø offer then I see in the advert that it is booked via www.wideroe.co.uk (http://www.wideroe.co.uk) ..... off to check that
Here is the link for the offer on the Wideroe site:
http://www.wideroe.no/modules/module_123/proxy.asp?D=2&C=793&I=6557 (http://www.wideroe.no/modules/module_123/proxy.asp?D=2&C=793&I=6557)
"From Aberdeen to Northern-Norway
From 25. June to 10. August 2012, we can offer excellent connections between Aberdeen and Bodø - the gateway to Lofoten, and to Tromso - the capital of the Arctic. Our morning flight from Aberdeen to Bergen will connect with our Bergen-Bodø flight daily except Saturday and with our Bergen-Tromsø flight daily except Saturdays and Sundays. Return flights are available daily except Saturdays and Sundays.
Campaign fares from £ 99 one-way available for booking 8.June-27.June, for travel between 25. June - 10.August. Take this unique opportunity and book your flight to Northern Norway now!
Bodø
Bodø is the gateway to exciting destinations as Lofoten and other destinations in the county of Nordland.Widerøe can offer several flights a day to 12 airports in Nordland."
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Many thanks, Maggi ... how i wish we could have taken advantage of this superb offer ... if only it was extended into September. ::)
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Many thanks, Maggi ... how i wish we could have taken advantage of this superb offer ... if only it was extended into September. ::)
September... If you want to vist North- Norway you should come during summer when we have 24 hours of daylight :)
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September... If you want to vist North- Norway you should come during summer when we have 24 hours of daylight :)
Hi Magnar,
I only mentioned September because all my summer months this year are already allocated to holidays somewhere or other!! ;D
Perhaps I can plan to visit your magnificent country in 2013 ... a dream destination for me!
Greetings and kind regards from Lancashire.
Cliff
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Hi Magnar,
I only mentioned September because all my summer months this year are already allocated to holidays somewhere or other!! ;D
Perhaps I can plan to visit your magnificent country in 2013 ... a dream destination for me!
Greetings and kind regards from Lancashire.
Cliff
Would be very nice to see you here :)
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I would love to come and see your garden Magnar. I still keep the postcard you sent me with those seeds long ago. Many are growing extremely well in my garden now..... thank you for your kindness....
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Magnar, I think everyone on this wonderful forum has been touched by your kindness at some time and secretly dreams of visiting your magnificent garden and locality one day. Mention Tromso and members drool. ;D
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Primula watsonii
Primula waltonii ?
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Michael,
exquisite primulas 8)
Congratulation!
Have you raised them from seed?
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What do you think? Is this primula capitata? It is the first one of several plants of its kind. I got the seed from Chris Chadwell a year ago.
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Everything is late here this summer, also the Primulas.
Primula reidii
Primula blinii (was misnamed as P. bella)
Primula ioessa
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Lovely Primula ioessa, Magnar !
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Some very special Primulas there Magnar, lovely.
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Quite beautiful. I can almost smell the P. reidii from here Magnar. :) My P. bella leaves are like yours (or will be in the spring) but the flowers are not. Not quite anyway.
Though different shades, these are the same stem.
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Lesley... Looking at your pics and also on the net, I find my plant may not be P. bella at all. I had the seeds from a collecting in the wild a few years ago, and I guess they have not been correctly identified. Any suggestion to what my plant may be?
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Lesley... Looking at your pics and also on the net, I find my plant may not be P. bella at all. I had the seeds from a collecting in the wild a few years ago, and I guess they have not been correctly identified. Any suggestion to what my plant may be?
Magnar, I think your plant is probably what has been called P florida which some of us have been growing recently from wild collected seed. In the June edition of the AGS bulletin, John Richards now says this plant should be referred to as P blinii. I believe the toothed leaves are diagnostic, and I have found it has a beautiful scent.
Compare the pictures on Primula world site:
Primula bella (http://www.primulaworld.com/PWweb/gallery/bella.html)
Primula florida = P blinii (http://www.primulaworld.com/PWweb/gallery/florida.html)
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Magnar, I think your plant is probably what has been called P florida which some of us have been growing recently from wild collected seed. In the June edition of the AGS bulletin, John Richards now says this plant should be referred to as P blinii. I believe the toothed leaves are diagnostic, and I have found it has a beautiful scent.
Compare the pictures on Primula world site:
Primula bella (http://www.primulaworld.com/PWweb/gallery/bella.html)
Primula florida = P blinii (http://www.primulaworld.com/PWweb/gallery/florida.html)
Thanks Diane, I have been thinking the same myself, så I guess I will change the label. I have a P. blinii from last year, and when it flowered now I notied than they look very much the same.
So now a new task: Go searching for the real Primula bella ;)
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I think that David and Stella Rankin ( of Kevock) have grown and shown this plant so that may be a chance to obtain it. :-\
In "The Rock Garden " #126, pages 24 to 53, there is a super article: Hunting for Primula in Yunnan
and Sichuan by Pam Eveleigh.
All these little beauties mentioned there.
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I remember our discussion about my own plant a few months ago and the thought it may well be P. florida (blinii). What mine doesn't have though, because I cheqked at the time, was a beautiful scent - or any much scent at all. Mine was grown from seed sent to me by Giles R so he may have a thought about it, depending on what his own source was. Mine is so far still quite green in this mid winter though last year it dies back to resting buds.
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Hello, I'm new round these parts so I'm still finding my feet. I think this is probably the right place to post this.
I grow a few of the Barnhaven seed strains and there are a couple that are coming into flower now. Has anybody else got any confused primroses that are behaving oddly? Maybe mine are just settling in - I started them from seed last year.
I'll take some photos this week.
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I have a hybrid primrose in flower as well as a red Cowslip.
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Maybe it's just one of those things then? Must say, it's quite nice to see a couple of primroses out at the same time as the salvia.
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Looking around the forum posts, I think there are clearly some plants doing "out of season" things.... some here and there, in different genera in different places.... but as the season's get more muddled, I'm beginning to wonder what exactly "normal" might be? :-\
See the Scilla thread, for example... there are others...
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Often primulas will flower in autumn oif they've had a wet summer. I believe the UK summer was a bit moist earlier on? :)
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To be fair, here in Aberdeen we must have had about four or five fine to good days in the last week - starting raining again earlier, though..... :'(
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It's definitely been a wet summer, so that would explain it. "a bit moist" would be something of an understatement! :))
I guess it means that we can grow things like meconopsis without any special treatment though. Mine's growing like a cabbage!
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Primula seed from Chadwell but I don't know the species. They look a bit like P capitata mooreana.
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I would guess at capitata Trond.
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Thanks David, I would too although it isn't quite like the ones I have had before.
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I've *still* got primroses flowering! :)
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I've *still* got primroses flowering! :)
;)
vulgaris double seedling
border auricula seedling
old mustard
sieboldii seedling
dunno ?! ;)
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Regular readers of these pages will know that I used to grow a lot of the smaller Primulas (and Auriculas) under glass but a few years ago lack of space in the greenhouse took it's toll and I sold them all. A general review of the greenhouse contents and getting rid of some genera I liked but didn't have the space to grow well has now meant a few Primulas are beginning to creep back in there. Here's the first one to flower this season- Primula 'Lindum Moonlight'.
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very nice David. I think I had one P.allionii out at Christmas for several years, "Elizabeth Burrow" but it looks as if it is some way off this year.
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A nice splash of colour in my greenhouse
Double Auricula 'Shaun' bred by Graeme Butler of Rumbling Bridge Nursery
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Sorry Roma
Graham Butler
Jean
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Changed it while you were posting, Jean. I should have checked before I posted.
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Having stayed out of the remoter parts of the garden - 30 feet from the back door -I ventured out for a look at my Asiatic primulas. Primula nana is almost flowering and the Whiteii are in full bud. All this with no overhead protection and complete neglect on my part. It looks as if I will have to go out and dig them up for potting if I wish to see the flowers
I also noted my pots of pulsatillas are producing new green growth and the dwarf irises should be flowering in about 10 days. Although these plants are well forward, there is no sign pf any dwarf narcissus or crocus as yet My biggest surprise is the paraquilegia anemonoides in the raised bed. It has not died back and still has green leaves showing whereas my other plant potted and in the greenhouse has died back.. I am at a loss as to know how to treat them. Will they both survive? Time will tell !