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Specific Families and Genera => Iris => Topic started by: arilnut on January 15, 2012, 06:41:34 PM
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I think it's better to put this in Iris than the seed section.
Here is a photo of Acutiloba lineolata seeds I just potted.
They were cut on Dec.-3-2011.
John
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good result and now we're waiting for the flowers ;D
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Well done, John!
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Thanks to actual climatical conditions it is possible to make perhaps unique pictures: Iris damascena with snow and Iris atropurpurea with snow - in bloom. ::)
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Great Hans !!!
I think Iris atropurpurea never saw snow in the wild ;D but I damascena could have snow.
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Lovely clumps Hans, I hope that the sudden cold while they are growing won't start any rot. I expect they wont mind if they are well rooted.
Iris autropurpurea survived lows of minus 20 C here last winter. (it was very unhappy but looks well now)
We sometimes forget that plants evolve so that they can survive the extremes that they may have to endure only once in a thousand years or more. Not just the conditions which they normally enjoy.
We can make use of this as gardeners.
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I agree with you Peter.
This very cold period will be appreciated to see how Onco are frost resistant but my experience is that they are not frost sensitive if they are dry.
Will see in few weeks... with every species.
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Wow...what a sight!
Fred, to be correct, Iris atropurpurea has seen snow only one time in the last century (some 50 years ago) :P ;D
Here it has started to flower in nature ;)
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Very good news Miriam ;)
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Mouthwatering images Hans !!
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Did you prepare the seed in any way prior to sowing John?
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Did you prepare the seed in any way prior to sowing John?
Hi Ron. I use the forced germination method on them. I soak for a week, then cut the
end of the seed to expose the embryo and place on damp vermiculite in the containers.
These are put in the fridge and checked every week. When they start to grow I
pot them into seed trays.
John B
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Thank you for the info John. Approx what % success rate do you anticipate with this method?
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Iris atropurpurea has started to flower!
And this is what I found today 8)
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Wonderful sight Miriam ! :o
Thanks for showing - makes a change for the solid frozen landscape out here...
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Wonderful to see such strong looking plants, in their natural setting. Thanks for sharing these scenes with us Miriam. :)
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Wow Miriam! I am so grateful whenever you post photos of oncos in habibat. I did not know I. atropurpurea could ever be so golden!
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Wow Miriam! I am so grateful whenever you post photos of oncos in habibat. I did not know I. atropurpurea could ever be so golden!
They can be quite variable in the wild, especially at the Nahal Poleg habitat. Other habitats seem to have much less variation. Maybe some unwanted hybridization?
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Fascinating pictures of Iris atropurpurea in nature Miriam - still a long way to have a similar sight in the garden, but I am working in it... ;)
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Gorgeous, Hans!
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Perfect, absolutely bl...y perfect!! ;D ;D. Do you feed, Hans, although they are outside?
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Fascinating pictures of Iris atropurpurea in nature Miriam - still a long way to have a similar sight in the garden, but I am working in it... ;)
Simply brilliant Hans ! 8)
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Congratulations Hans ! Mine are frozen ... :( :(
Here are some more from the wild, last week. but yours look even in better condition :)
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Lovely studies Fred. Are these all from the same area, i.e. growing close by each other?
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Yes Ronm, quite close, few hundred meters only.
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I was given a 2 year old seedling of atropurpurea - hope it flowers like the darkest ones shown.
Stunning series of pictures - thanks Miriam and Fred
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F.F. = Fabulous Fred ! ;D
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Thanks Fred! So many interesting variations in such close proximity.
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Fascinating pictures Fred and Arthur! :o :o :o
Fred, pics 3 & 4 would confuse me - just seeing those two pictures I would have thougt they belong to a different species (or hybrid)... ::)
Arthur - superb pictures, it is similar to Iris barnumae f. protonyma from Iran, do you know which differences exist?
Checking Kew Checklist I was surprised to see Iris polakii is a synonym of Iris sanguinea var. sanguinea (http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?name_id=322241) - thinking always to be "species" near to Iris barnumae... ???
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Friends, I have moved the posts ( from Art, with the notes from Brian Mathew)
about Iris polakii and Iris barnumae, to this thread:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8639.0
:)
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Thank's Maggy, very interesting.
And here is the very very first flower of Iris mariae for this season in nature.
It's not the right post to put it here but I added field of Anemone coronaria as they are neighbours
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STUNNING pictures!
You are lucky to see the first flower of the year of Iris mariae (fully open 8))
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Anemone coronaria is just amazing. I can see that even Solomon in all his glory didn't come up to scratch. ;D
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Hi Fred,
Beautiful Iris atropurpurea and Iris mariae in nature.
Where did you take the pic of the Anemone coronaria meadow? Is it in a (cultivated) garden "somewhere north" or in the wild "somewhere south"?
What about the "other neighbour" Cyclamen persicum? I am sure our Israeli forum members have images of it (sorry if I am mixing the subjects of the forums...but plant associations are often more exciting and interesting that the single species!).
Matt
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Hi Matt,
it was somewhere in the south ;D, wild and not cultivated, as some other places. There was also one pure white form but no Cyclamen persicum here. Many many more in the north.
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Iris ewbankiana
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I've run out of superlatives, :'( :'( :'(.
I'm going to be a lurker from here on in! :-X :-X
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I'm sorry Rony ;D
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Jan,
Are they blooming now ???
Congratulations they look very very nice ;)
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an old photo
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Only joking Jan ;). I can never tire of seeing beautiful plants, beautifully grown, by ( if you don't mind my saying ) an obvious expert in growing these Genera. :) One thing with growing plants, they wont be told what to do, we have to learn their language and accommodate their needs. I'm learning ;D ;D
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Rony, yes you said it beautifully
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I have had a plant which is supposed to be ewbankiana for ten years- no flowers, ever. :-[
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Iris atrofusca from yesterday in the Northern Negev Desert.
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Very nice to see so beautiful flowers Oron !
Spring is coming to Israel ;D Hope to see more soon...
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Oron
Spectacular clump
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Iris atrofusca from yesterday in the Northern Negev Desert.
Wow! Superb pictures, Oron - Negev Desert looks so green, it seems it received more rain than Balearic Island. :o
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Oron love to see these natural clumps - thanks for posting
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Beautiful Oron! they look good this year.
Here are two species from my garden: Iris damascena and Iris nigricans (muchas gracias to two Spanish members of this forum ;))
Last year both species had only one flower and this year Many :o
Hans, it seems when in Israel there is a rainy year- In Spain it is the opposite.
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Beautifull wild pictures Oron.
Congratulations Miriam, Well done. I think that even in Israel thes plants require skill.
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What a valuable desert Oron!!
Miri, it seems we are also exchanging weathers!!
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Miriam very nice, healthy plants, congrats!!!
Here, Iris barnumae from Syria is blooming today
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Fantastic Oncos Miriam! Glad to see them so happy! :o
Oron very fine plant, did not know Iris barnumae also exists in Syria.
A bit later than in Israel Iris damascena started to flower. Yuval Sapir studied the pollination of Israelian Oncos - here the local insects like visit the flowers.
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Envy (in good way) you all - Oron, Miriam, Hans!
Janis
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Wow Hans great photos - and to capture the insects so well.
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Excellent photos, Hans! :)
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GREAT shots and plants Hans !
Congratulations
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Indeed Hans, fantastic Iris damascena.
Today I had a flower on Iris iberica - Georgië; much earlier dan ssp. elegantissima.
This plant was a gift of the BG Tbilisi - Georgië during our visit 2 years ago
Hendrik
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Superb Hendrick !
What is the difference with ssp elegantissima ??
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Superb Hendrick !
What is the difference with ssp elegantissima ??
I don't know Fred; I think there is no difference.
I remember me that Jim Archibald says during our visit that there is no difference, only patriotism....
Each country wants his own iris!
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Superb Hendrick !
What is the difference with ssp elegantissima ??
I don't know Fred; I think there is no difference.
I remember me that Jim Archibald says during our visit that there is no difference, only patriotism....
Each country wants his own iris!
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;D ;D ;D
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Thanks a lot for your comments Janis, Pat, Tom, Fred and Hendrik!
Hendrik congratulations for your Iris iberica - fantastic plant!
Here again a shot of Iris damascena of two different clones - they seem to be identical at first look but the falls and the Oncodot are a bit different as you can see in the following pictures - last picture shows the Oncodot of the first seedling in flower of the cross of clone1 and clone2 - it is the first pure balearic Iris damascena. :D ;)
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Well done again Hans, and very interesting cross ;D
I hope to be able to compare with Iris yebrudii as they look very similar.
Your clump is fantastic, still have to wait some weeks before to get flowers here ;)
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So fascinating to see the seedling markings from such clones. Great photos and beautiful clumps.
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Congratulations Hans and Hendrik!
I self-polinated Iris damascena and I got some little pods!
Here is another clone of Iris nigricans (merci beaucoup Fred ;))
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Yesterday and the week before I was traveling in the north of Israel.
Iris haynei in the Gilboa mountain was in full bloom:
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In the south of the Golan Heights, Iris haynei var jordana is flowering. It is very similar to Iris haynei from the Gilboa.
The beautiful Iris hermona was in flower too, in the north of the Golan Heights.
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Seems that you had a very successful week end Miriam ;D :)
Thank's for pictures, I'd like to be with you to see this flowers.
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Elegantissima from Lithuanian Bulb Garden
John B
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At least, Onco's are also starting to bloom here !
The first one is Iris iberica from Georgia
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Beautiful! Here it is too hot for this species.
This year is a very good year, in Israel, for the Oncos.
Here is Iris kasruwana from Lebanon, I see it for the first time and it is stunning!
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Stunning indeed Miriam. A new name for me. :)
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Beautiful form Miriam ! I love it and seems to grow well in your garden.
congratulations :)
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Miriam I have 4 EC Iris kasruwana seedlings that Peter Gras did for me that are looking really good.
In that same lot of seedlings that I had from Peter there is an ASI seedlist Iris korolkowii x onco with purple bases to it's leaves - seed donated by PG.
It will be interesting to see what it looks like.
The holy grail of arils to me is Iris iberica and it is one that it seems too hot here to grow well.
So good to see the stunning photos in this thread.
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Thanks for the comments! :-*
Yes Fred, I am also very curious to see the differences. ;)
Superb pictures of those beauties in nature and in cultivation Miriam!
Beautiful plants John and Fred - a pitty they are hardly growable here.
Some more Oncos are in flower - actually my favourites are an interesting Iris bostrensis and Iris camillae/Iris schelkownikowii.
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Hans what an amazing clump of Iris camillae - please pollinate for seed.
The signal spot is startling in Iris bostrensis :o :o :o - it would certainly stand out the field or garden. I wonder if a couple of the species hybrids that I grow has Iris bostrensis in their background somewhere as they have remnants of that sort of signal colour?
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Wow Hans, this form of Iris bostrensis is amazing!
Iris schelkownikowii seems to be a good plant for ground cover :P
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Superb Hans !
Unfortunately, Iris schelkownikowii has suffered from frost this year, and the clump is much smaller now than in December....
You grow them very well and I agree with Miriam, very nice ground cover ;D
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Pat, have you looked at the thread about the AGS Cleveland Show? There are some super oncos there and one in particular, a paradoxa/barnumae cross, with YELLOW standards. Looks edible, with cream and chocolate sauce! ;D
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Got back from a two weeks trip to Jordan,
Onco. season have started late this year due to an unusual cold winter.
First to flower is I. bostrensis in the eastern desert just 2km from the Syrian border.
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Some more Oncos are in flower - actually my favourites are an interesting Iris bostrensis and Iris camillae/Iris schelkownikowii.
Hans
Your plants look better then in the wild!!
Congratulations.
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The darkest of all, I. nigricans, a good form from the southern populations.
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Thanks Lesley I will take a look at that link in a moment.
Oron beautiful photos once again. thanks so much.
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Great Oron !!
Superb population of Iris bostrensis; ignoring the borders...
seems that it was a good and success full trip ;)
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Thanks for the beautiful pictures!
I like especially the orange bostrensis.
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Thanks guys,
Here are some Iris haynei from different populations, they where in excelent conditions this time.
Look at this site near Amman!!
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Splendid Oron ! very nice populations, and stunning dark colors for this species.
please... more...more...
Some more species from the frame :
Iris kirkwoodii from Syria via Netherlands.....
Iris sari from Archibald's seeds and Iris sari ssp. manissadjani from Janis which I suppose to be something else, but I've never seen it in the wild....
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!איזה יופי :o ;D
I did not know Iris haynei is so wide spread in Jordan and that it grows south near Amman (But actually I saw on the map it's the same
latitude as the population in Rimonim).
Are the northern population darker than the southern ones?
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Fred, I am happy to see you have some survivors ;)
Wonderful pictures as always.
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Yes Miriam, I have survivors, more than I thought, and many more blossoms to come than last year too ;D
No more pics from your garden ? or from the nature ? ;D
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to be continued....I have buds on gatesii and kirkwoodii.
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Ahhhhh !
That are good news ;D ;D ;D
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Oron again more stunning photos - good to see the associated plants.
Lesley I checked every photo in the AGS Cleveland thread and did not find the oncos - did like the Asarum though - can you do a link please?
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Pat, I've just had a look through the 3 pages of the Cleveland show and I CAN'T FIND IT EITHER!!! Maybe it was another show but I can't see it in anything as recent. I only saw the darmned pic yesterday or the day before. Was there a show at Hexham? I think I'm going dotty. :-\
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I was apparently looking at the AGS Cleveland Show 2011! and it's on Page 1 but how I came to be looking at last year's show I don't know. I can't do links. They won't work for me when I try to cut/copy and paste but also there's nowhere at the top of the thread page I can cut and paste from.
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I was apparently looking at the AGS Cleveland Show 2011! and it's on Page 1 but how I came to be looking at last year's show I don't know. I can't do links. They won't work for me when I try to cut/copy and paste but also there's nowhere at the top of the thread page I can cut and paste from.
The link to Cleveland show 2011 with the onco is here:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7165.0 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7165.0)
and another, urumiense x paradoxa mirabile at East Anglia 2011:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7243.30 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7243.30)
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Thanks for the links, Diane.
The two forms of paradoxa hybrids are rather lovely, are they not? Both from Ray Drew's stable, I see.
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well I am still in shock guys... not enough smileys :o x1.000000000000!
Here is my humble contribution, Iris kirkwoodii
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Wow Rafa that seems tall.
Thanks Diane for the links - now I understand. How stunning is that paradoxa hybrid.
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Wow - some superb pictures in a few days! :o :o :o
Thanks for sharing them - Oron the habitat pictures are fascinating - no landscape architect could design it better! ;)
Beautiful plants Fred and Rafa - here also Iris sari is flowering but some funny beetle like to destroy nearly any Oncoflower - so no picture. >:(
But found some more flowering.
Iris kirkwoodii calcarea, Iris lortetii, Iris lycotis and an about 110 cm tall Iris kirkwoodii x atrofusca hybrid.
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very strange your hybrid Hans..
Iris atrofusca is not a tall plant... did you create the hybrid by yourself ?
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Thanks Fred - this year Iris atrofusca flowered for me the first time and I noticed it is smaller than other black species here - so I also have some doubts if the parentage can be correct (not my cross). Whatever it is, it is a very impressive plant - here it is (background) together with Iris kirkwoodii calcarea (foreground) and Iris bostrensis (middle right).
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It has been pointed out to me by an artist friend [Debra] that it's correctly called Iris kirkwoodiae as it's named for Mrs Kirkwood!
see link: http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do?id=438758-1&back_page=/ipni/editSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Ffind_wholeName%3Diris%2Bkirk*%26output_format%3Dnormal (http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do?id=438758-1&back_page=/ipni/editSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Ffind_wholeName%3Diris%2Bkirk*%26output_format%3Dnormal)
She was informed of this distinction by Kew as she was exhibiting a painting of the Iris kirkwoodiae x I atropurpurea hybrid which I posted here in 2011 - grown from a rhizome sent to me by Pat Toolan - and they insisted on the correct nomenclature.
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
I wonder if Debra would make a print of the painting sometime?
I'll let those members who understand well the naming of plants to comment...
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My little contribution to the Onco album 2012:
I. lortetii (wrongly received as I. hayneii)
I. barnumae ssp. barnumae
I. nigricans
I. atropurpurea in the snow (pic taken on 7th February)
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terrific pics :o Fil, and wellcome!
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How TERRIBLE to get Iris lortetii when you expcted I. haynei. :o I don't know how you can bear it. ;D ;D ;D
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Received the following today:
EC Iris from Peter Gras 18.4.12
ASI 11#13 Iris mariae
ASI 11#13 Iris mariae
ASI 11#16 Iris haynei Mt Gilboa
ASI 11#17 Iris lortetii Otsrin
ASI 11#17 Iris lortetii Otsrin
ASI 11#21 Iris iberica x Iris afghanica
ASI 11#52 Iris hoogiana x OP Ruksans
ASI 11#7 Iris haynei Mt Gilboa Diff Source
ASI 11#7 Iris haynei Mt Gilboa Diff Source
ASI 11#7 Iris haynei Mt Gilboa Diff Source – fairly mangled in glass
Iris auranitica ex FredDepalle 2011
Iris auranitica ex Fred Depalle 2011
Iris cedretii ex Fred Depalle 2011
Iris cedretii ex Fred Depalle 2011
Iris kasruwana ex Fred Depalle 2011
Iris kirkwoodii var macropetala ex Fred Depalle 2011
Iris korolkowii x onco species ex Fred Depalle 2011
Iris nigricans ex Fred Depalle 2011
Iris swensoniana ex Fred Depalle 2011
I only lost one seedling in the previous two lots - the rest are doing really well.
I also checked my pots for seedlings and have up seedlings in 20 pots 16 pots are my own crosses from 2006, 2007, 2009, and quite a few from 2010
The other 4 are pots of ASI seed exchange seedlings from 07, 09, 10
:) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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is it Christmas? :D
Goog luck with these treasure seed ;)
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Thanks Rafa - once they are planted out then it might be another matter.
Now to ask another question on computers problem thread.
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Hey superpresident Pat....How to get some "ex Depalle" seeds?
;D ;D ;D
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How TERRIBLE to get Iris lortetii when you expcted I. haynei. :o I don't know how you can bear it. ;D ;D ;D
;D
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Hey superpresident Pat....How to get some "ex Depalle" seeds?
;D ;D ;D
Become SuperPresident! ;D
Fabulous parcel Pat. Good for us too as we are assured of pictures for years to come. :D
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You're very lucky Pat ;)
I hope you will get flowers soon ;D
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It will be a few years before we see blooms.
I have just finished potting up the ec seedlings. So now to replace the frost cloth over the ?shadehouse? and then replace the bamboo blinds over that to protect from the sun for a while to acclimatise. 30C expected today before maybe some rain coming on the weekend - with luck. The previous 46 ec pots are out in the weather now.
One species that germinated for me this year is Iris barnumae ex Mayr. So excited about this one.
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Here are some of mine this year.
Acutiloba x Choschab
paradoxa from Jelitto seed
elegantissima
John B
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Iris iberica ssp. lycotis is also flowering now, from generous forumist...
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John and Fred: Wonderful! :o
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Nice species from all!
Another species flowering for the first time for me: Iris kirkwoodii
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Strong looking clump Miriam
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Some lovely plants being shown here
This is my paradoxa Choschab. Can anyone tell me whether it is normal for the standards to be held at this angle?
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well done Miriam !!!
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Fantastic plants Filippo, John, Fred and Miriam!
The dark Iris kirkwoodii also is in flower in the Botanic garden of Jerusalem actually (and also here ;)).
Actually also in flower is Iris nectarifera, once established a good grower.
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Hans another fine onco species clump :o :o
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Thanks a lot Pat, now I keep the fingers crossed and hope to get some seeds... ::)
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A nice Iris nectarifera, Hans.
Here the first Oncos in my garden:
Iris iberica ssp.iberica from Tbilissi
'' '' lycotis
'' paradoxa ssp.paradoxa from Vash
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Dirk, beautiful... welcome to the club!
The last one to flower this season is Iris gatesii.
It reminds me of Iris lortetii but still is very different.
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Miriam that is one species that I have not grown yet - it is really beautiful
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The last one to flower this season is Iris gatesii.
Wow, Miriam, that's one of the "holy Grails" of iris growing!
cheers
fermi
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Miriam, wonderful Iris gatesii :-*
Here two new flowers in my garden:
Iris sprengeri
'' unknown species from a friend, who can helps?
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What little beauties, both of them. :P
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superb Miriam, and .. sorry Udo... no idea at the moment. :-[
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terrific! specially to me I. gatesii and I berica subsp. iberica. Here is I. x koenigii ( Iris paradoxa subsp. paradoxa x Iris iberica subsp. iberica)
Udo, where it does come from this little onco?
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very nice plant rafa !
is it a wild hybrid or did you do it by yourself ?
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Onco season is almost over, but still Iris auranitica, just starting, and Iris urumiensis, from Archibald's seeds.
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Beautiful! That last form of urmiensis is captivating.
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Tom,
this one is a pic mistake... wrong color, too white ... :-[ :-[
Will update it later, sorry.
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anyway Fred, WOOOOOW!! :o :o :o
I haven't data collection of this plant, maybe Janis has collected it originally? There is another interesting natural hybrid Iris × caeciliae Grossh, between subp. paradoxa and subsp. lycotis, I only seen it once in Mayr's web. But nothing comparing pure species like you show us! :-*
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Rafa and Fred, very nice Oncos.
Here is a unusual form from Iris barnumae with often two flowers per stem,
coll. in Iran.
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Wow, what a beautiful red color... I suppose the second flower blooms when the other is dead?
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Rafa, this picture is from saturday and i see today the second bud.
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Very strange color indeed Udo ....
Here is the correct color for Iris urumiensis
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Such beautiful oncos shown recently. Congratulations all on raising these rarities.
The ASI Yearbook is at the printer but articles and photos for the next yearbook are sought now.
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today in flower,
Iris acutiloba ssp.lineolata
Iris barnumae with the second flower from one stem
Iris regelio-cyclus 'Dardanus', grown outside without problems
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Such superb plants from everyone here. Tears are running down my face as I realize I will never see them in real life. :'(
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Such superb plants from everyone here. Tears are running down my face as I realize I will never see them in real life. :'(
Cheer up, Lesley, they do grow them in Prague and this time next year you'll be there! ;D
cheers
fermi
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Iris sari manissadjanii flowering today.
I got the plant from Paul Christian in Nov 2009, and this is the first time it has flowered.
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A cracking image of a cracking plant Rob.
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I agree ! very nice plants and picture rob.
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Cheer up, Lesley, they do grow them in Prague and this time next year you'll be there! ;D
cheers
fermi
Then I'll be weeping because I can't bring any home. Maggi and Angie will have to carry extra tissues.
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Iris
barnumae ssp. protonyma polakii with a rather small flower
Iris acutiloba ssp acutiloba (or not ?)
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Such beautiful oncos shown recently. Congratulations all on raising these rarities.
The ASI Yearbook is at the printer but articles and photos for the next yearbook are sought now.
Got my yearbook yesterday! Great article by Fred Depalle with stunning pictures. Pleased to be a member again after a decade-long gap. Now to build up my aril collection again!
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Luc, you know ( Juno ??? no... too late ;D ;D ;D ;D ), your plant looks like ssp. acutiloba, quite a nice form.
Do you have the origin of this plant ?...
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Wow - so many breathtaking plants! :o
I am glad to see so many different growers with superb results - and I am specially glad to see Iris gatesii growing so well in Israel! ;)
Fred - as usual superb pictures of outstandig species. :)
Think here finally all Oncos are over, one of the last was also Iris gatesii - other very late one was a seedling of Iris kirkwoodii (flowering while I could collect the first seeds of this species) and one I received as spec. from Iran, which might be Iris grossheimi http://www.signa.org/index.pl?Display+Iris-grossheimi+1 (http://www.signa.org/index.pl?Display+Iris-grossheimi+1).
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Luc, you know ( Juno ??? no... too late ;D ;D ;D ;D ), your plant looks like ssp. acutiloba, quite a nice form.
Do you have the origin of this plant ?...
I don't know the origin sorry.
But did you notice the leaves ;D !!
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The leaves ???? The most beautiful part of Oncos ;)
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Yes the leaves are distinctive and I especially like the small leaves with much curl. Brings a smile every time.
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Iris paradoxa mirabilis, a Jim Archibald selection.
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Wonderful, Melvyn.
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Superb Melvyn :o :o
A must have... on the wish list ;)
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Breathtaking, Melvyn! :o
Thanks for sharing this picture!
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Melvyn, deliciously beautyful, you are one of a handful lucky gardeners to grow it .
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Welcome back Otto. :D The new laptop is successfully installed and everything working well then?
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Another plant that I had as iris barnumae, but if I'm right this must be Iris polakii.
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Luc, lovely plants I must say, and please tell me how you keep your plunge sand so pristine? Mine is covered in moss and algae...
Cheers,
Alex
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Luc, lovely plants I must say, and please tell me how you keep your plunge sand so pristine? Mine is covered in moss and algae...
Cheers,
Alex
This sandbed with plants like onco, juno, allium, tulips is situated in full light (and sun now and then ;D) and under glassroof cover. Although the sand is kept moist during the growing season this environment is not favourable for algae. The only problem can be unexpected seedlings.
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A late flower on iris acutiloba ssp. lineolata from Armenia
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Great Luc !
I like .... the flower ;D And very late .... Is it still winter in your area ? ;)
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Great Luc !
I like .... the flower ;D And very late .... Is it still winter in your area ? ;)
I know your preferences but I'm glad to show you this flower.
Winter ??? ??? Noooo, 25° at the moment
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stunningly clear photos Luc
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some picture from last month
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WOW :o Rafa, that Iris auranitica is simply stunning!!
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Rafa,
that's a real beauty! But so many of your plants are!
cheers
fermi
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I remember seeing this stunning species many years ago when I was a young irisarian, in a talk given at an NZiS Convention by the late Australian grower, Dr Gordon Lovell. This must have been my intro to oncos or close to it.
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It is a real jewel. It hasn't set seeds, but I kept the pollen to apply it next year and maybe the pollen from other clones in other gardens. It is a must to stabilize this species in many botanical gardens..... It is a shame this beautiful country with this beautiful nature, history and culture, but above all, all this innocent people that are suffering a human catastrophe.
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Rafa this is one that produced quite a few plants from the seed that were embryo cultured. They are looking really good too - some have recently been planted out.
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this is fantastic Pat! I am sure in your hands this species will grow like weeds!
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I sure hope so Rafa. Noticed a bit of an imprint of a kangaroo hind in with some of the newly planted irises.
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Up to twenty kangaroos like our garden at night. ::)
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Congratulations Rafa !
This is one of my favorite species and it produces seeds quite freely so you should have some next year :)
I also agree with you of course about the country and people living here... no news at all from some friends.... :-X ??? >:(
Pat, good news your seedlings are in good condition :) You have kangaroo... i have many deers and wild noars :( :( :( :( Not easy to live in the middle of natural lands !
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Kangaroos can leap as high as deer I am sure. Boars might be a little worse than rabbits and hares which have decided to move in too.
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A nice flower that visited with me yesterday (Many, many thanks, Pat!).
It is from David Shahak's experiments on improving germination with I. atropurpurea, this time with I. hermona.
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So glad Peter that you have finally come into the fold.
Everyone this is my embryo culture guru who lives in Sydney.
Welcome and yes it is not too hard to download photos once you know how.
This onco hybrid is one of my favourites that I have posted photos of before on this forum. I have also used it a lot in breeding as I love the shape and smokiness of it.
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PS how do you get the flag up in your profile part. I have searched without luck.
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Pat : there's a new area in your profile settings to add you country to get the flag attached I've done it for you! :-*
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Hello Peter - having "chatted" pereviously via email, it's good to see you posting - that is a cracking photo for your debut 8)
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Hello Peter, and a warm welcome from me too . I amso grateful ,as is Pat , for embryo culturing the the many seeds for me .I only wish I could do justice to them and grow them on to flowering stage ,as my climate is not as ideal as your's or Pat's .
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Thanks Maggi - especially at this time we need our flags flying!
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Thanks Maggi - especially at this time we need our flags flying!
Quite so, Pat. The little "hill" in the Olpympic park at the start of the Olympic Games looked so super with all the flags of the participating countries fluttering there. Great excuse for some real and virtual "flag-waving" from us all!
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The first aril to flower this year may be Iris jordana with some Iris atropurpurea to bloom next. Lots of buds forming. The season is two months behind last year which was the earliest ever here. Usually July you see blooms begin.
I have had to dig and discard quite a few of my 2004 crosses as well as the clump of pseudopumila and a clump of another species - all to virus. It was hard discarding the first clump but I have decided that I will discard anything that shows any signs of it - without looking at the cross or the species name!!! :'( :'( :'( :( :( :(
The pseudopumila was the first to show signs and it must have had it last year as I moved some of it and potted up some and it all has virus this year. All had been grown from seed but I think it is the ants and red legged mites that move it around.
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Good news : flowers are coming
very sad news : the virus, which are our nightmare, but you took the best decision ! never keep a plant with virus
we're waiting for the pictures now :P :P
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Another of Pat's lovely seedlings - PT 0573 - opened today, yet many more thanks Pat! And something new for me - supposedly Urmiensis, received as seed in the mid-80s and cultured (EC) 23rd October 2010.
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Beautiful plants Peter! Fine to see Iris urmiensis in flower - here I only see the leaves every year...
First Oncoseedlings started to grow actually - mature plants are still all dormant.
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Peter so good to see them flowering elsewhere in Oz. Lets hope we get lots of bloom soon from the EC arils.
Rosella, as in bird, damage. This is some of the damage. BBBBB birds :'( If they touch the new EC ones I will be pretty cranky.
Iris atropurpurea
This group was from those which got mixed up in the past so don't know.
Labelled Iris jordana? and the next will have the sun coming through it a day or so later.
I dug some more of the crosses out and discarded them in a plastic bag. I am worried as I planted most of the junos and that large lot of Iris planifolia in that patch. It
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Pat and Peter , great to see your first blooms of the season . -much earlier than here and Peter your Sydney climate is much more ideal to grow oncos than here in Olinda ,where I struggle .
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After 26 years, the first Iris Haynei from my own seed! It is amazing just how long onco seed remain viable if carefully stored! This one was embryo cultured 22 months ago and has several buds.
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I can well imagine you are pleased with that Peter. Great photo of the flower, too.
In my ignorance of such matters, it seems that 22 months from embryo culture to flower is pretty speedy - and after 26 years, I suppose it is!
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After 26 years, the first Iris Haynei from my own seed! It is amazing just how long onco seed remain viable if carefully stored! This one was embryo cultured 22 months ago and has several buds.
:o :o :o well done! :o :o :o
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Congratulations Peter ! and the flower is perfect !!
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Peter what a beautiful flower from one of nature's survivor plants. 26 years must be a record. Your wife had to put up with them in the refrigerator for a heck of a long time so at least it is worth it when they grow and flower!! ;D ;D
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Patch 16. So many of the early blooms are brownish. interesting
PT0010 and closeup. I jordana x I hermona hybrid
PT0509 hermona hybrid x I. atropurpurea.
So many are coming out in bloom - why did I decide to leave them just in bloom season???
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Fabulous flowers Pat !!!
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Well done Pat ! always very nice flowers in your garden :)
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A 2004 cross whose tag has faded.
PT0022 - I love the richness of this bloom colour
PT0316 maybe- starting to blend in together.
Two different crosses in patch 10 - note the large attachment where the lip should be
PT0579 - I do love this brown.
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Pat the 2004 cross seems like a lortetii - hermona,
the rosy-yellow color on the base of the standad make me think of lorteti
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Pat, I never get tired of looking at your pictures. They take my breath away. I have a seedling, Camillae X onco which is shown here. At 22 months old this clump has twelve buds/flowers. Is this a characteristic of Camillae (schelkownikowii?)? Or just some sort of hybrid vigour?
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Very vigorous plant indeed Peter ! For sure looks like I. schelkownikowii hybrid, not I. camillae, and I. schelkownikowii is a short but very floriferous plant. Do you feed them ?
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Hi Fred, I incorporated rose food, dolomite and bone meal into the bed after scraping away the top three or four inches, then replaced the unfertilised top layer, but there are a lot of other seedlings in the bed, growing well but not like this. I have a picture of the pod parent somewhere, imported from the ASI plant sale as I. Camillae, but my organisation of old slides is deficient .... but it looked a lot like the camillae shown by Hans - just not as blue. This plant is more vigorous than anything I have seen previously, and there is a paler sib with four blooms, ec'd the same day
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I Peter, thank's for informations but what is Rose food ? Fertilizer for roses ?
The iris camillae shown by hans is I. schelkownikowii and you're right, your hybrid is incredibly strong and floriferous. I'm not specialized in hybrids but this kind of primary hybrids are beautiful, especially this one ! congratulations... well grown too of course ;)
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Lovely strong clump Peter.
You are talking about iris that you imported years ago from the ASI plant sale???
Do you have to wait for them to die down before you can cover them again? Rain in summer I am thinking.
I am having to give the arils a spray with Confidor nearly every week as the red legged mites are still around. Come on heat and sun!
I will have to get my son to spray them while I am away.
Took some photos this afternoon but need to download them yet. Will post some tomorrow.
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Today there has been another I. Haynei bloom. It has survived wild windy conditions. Sadly,
however, the picture I posted of "Urmiensis" (15/8/2012) cannot have been Urmiensis, despite the
inscription on the seed envelope. The shape is not right, the colour is not right, and now I
have had two siblings flower and they could not possibly be Urmiensis, as the pictures show.
They have a shape more reminiscent of Haynei or atropurpurea. Maybe they are Urmiensis hybrids?
Fred - local "rose food" is about 8:3:9 NPK granulated fertiliser. Curiously, it is reported to represent a potential mercury hazard in eastern Australia, but not in Western Australia!
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This week Iris Haynei has made yet another visit - this one the most purple this year. This plant was embryo cultured in March 2011, so it is only 19 months old. The seed (thanks David Shahak) was 25 years old at the time of embryo culture.
Another visitor was an exquisite hybrid (Gatesii X Lortetti) by aril grower emeritus Ian Mitchell from Melbourne. Many, many thanks, Ian.
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Well done again Peter !
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This is the hybrid which I got from Pat Toolan last year,
Iris kirkwoodiae x atropurpurea (seed from H.M.)
Only one flower spike but appears nice and strong.
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cheers
fermi
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Nicely grown Fermi.
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Peter you have grown some stunners. Fermi glad you had a flower this year. It has been so busy since I returned from my trip to London, Samos, Ikaria and the New Forest region of England I haven't had a chance to post any photos but I will.
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Iris paradoxa ssp paradoxa x Iris kirkwoodii
and a closeup
61.Princess Maya x Ravid (light) 1995 seed from DS - note the red signal
I also like this orange signal in a rhizome that somehow got mixed with Iris atropurpurea rhizomes when dug.
57. ST89-26 (susitype) x korolkowii brown and green this does not increase at all well but at least it is alive.
When a few of the 2004 crosses were flowering together.
We have had some really strong winds this afternoon so many are nearly horizontal (that is what is left after the main flowering)
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Great photos, Pat! Paradoxa hybrids have a special fascination for me.
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Great photos Pat. Nice, nice plants.
Some of the flowers from the end of my season. First was a very nice
plant received as I. Gatesi, and maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
There were two seedlings from seed labelled "almost gatesii", both very nice.
Then a seedling from 1986 seed from another of my heros,
John Holden, Ht43 X Samariae. It just goes to show how long aril seed
maintain their viability if stored correctly.
Finally, two paradoxas from seed collected near Vanadzor, Armenia.
Hope you like them as much as I did.
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very very nice flowers and pictures Peter.
Not easy to tell if your I. gatesii is really pure species... but looks close to...
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Peter,
I agree with Fred, first is probably not gatesii, looks to me to have lortetii/samariae blood, while 'gatesii 1' shows characteristics closer to gatesii.
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Wonderful photos Peter of such well grown plants. Are your arils dying down yet?
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Superb grown plants Fermi, Peter and Pat!
Here still about 4 month to wait for the first flower.
Agree with Fred and Oron concerning Iris gatesii.
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Thank you all for your comments. My experience with gatesii is very limited - I once flowered the gatesii cultivar "Hand of God" which the Near Gatesii-2 closely resembled.
Pat, my plants are drying off rapidly. I will cover all but RCs, paradoxa and gatesii lines in the next week or two. Once the pods split, I think it is time for them to enjoy their summer rest.
Can't wait for northern hemisphere spring!
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This one has lost its label printing and it has been knocked about a bit by the seedling white broom bush. Smaller than normal flowers and plant but not as small as the following.
Iris kirwoodii x Iris medwedewii ASI seed which has had only this bloom.
I was going to upload an Archibald Iris trojana until I realised I have not downloaded it yet. ::)
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Pat , nice kirkwoodii x medwedewii cross.
this unnamed Iris flowered for me a few days ago and which I think could be the Regelia Iris lineata . Would someone more knowledgeable please confirm it , many thanks Otto.
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Otto, your plant looks very close Iris lineata. here is mine... darker form but I think same species.
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thanks Fred for confirming that my Iris is lineata , though a little paler and more linear segments . Otto.