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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: Shadylanejewel on January 07, 2012, 05:43:31 PM
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My first post is about my biggest obsession.
I've been growing Trillium from seed for for many years now. One of my Trillium kurabayashii seed plants is already poking her head out of the ground by almost 8cm.
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Welcome to The Forum Julie, you'll find lots of like-minded obsessives here.
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A new Trillium fan... how wonderful. Great to have you join us 8)
Ours are not being so forward ( foolhardy?) in putting up shoots here in the NE of Scotland. I hope your early shoot doesn't get a nasty weather shock.
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Thank you.
David - yes I'm sure I'll fit right in. I've also been trying to get caught up on reading previous posts. 8) It may take a while. ;D
Maggie - Our weather has been quite mild but as always could change at anytime. I've placed a layer of leaves over the top and also scattered slug bait.
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It's nice to see someone here on this forum who lives in the Pacific Northwest! Trilliums are one of my obsessions as well and I'm adding them to my garden slowly every year, both from seeds and plants. We have had a mild winter so far, but since we haven't had a cold snap yet, I am a bit concerned that one may come any time.
Does T. kurabayashii tend to come up earlier than other Trillium? I don't grow it myself (although I did sow some seeds last year...), but none of my Trillium have come out as yet.
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Hi Peppa - a little strange to be from the same area and yet meet on a "Scottish" rock garden forum. :)
We haven't really had any prolonged freezing here yet either. Tonight we should get down to freezing and later in the week night temps will be below freezing but still mild in the daytime. In Feb 2006, the temperature was -8.9º C for several days and T. kurabayashii looked like limp lettuce but once it warmed up, showed no damage and looked great.
Trillium kurabayashii is almost always my first to bloom beginning around the first part of March. Our native Trillium ovatum usually blooms a little later. T. rivale will also bloom near the end of March first part of April along with T. parviflorum.
These are followed by T. cuneatum, T. pusillum, T. flexipes, T. erectum, T. sessile, T. grandiflorum, T. vaseyi, T. recurvatum and T. luteum (not always in the same order).
Can hardly wait.....
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Welcome to the forum Shadylanejewel
I envy you,, having the Trilliums up already,, I shall have to wait another 3 months at least to see them grow. The first one to flower in my garden is always T. hibbersonii, closely follwed by T. erectum.
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Hello Magnar,
The Trillium kurabayashii is still about 2 months from actually blooming. I plan to document the weekly or bi-weekly progress this year the photo was taken January 04, 2012.
I'll also document the other Trillium as they come up.
Julie
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Just found that my Trillium kamtschaticum and undulatum are poking though the ground. It's time to put out slug bait! ;D
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Hello Julie, great to hear from you and welcome. I have also been growing Trilliums from seed for many years, this year has been very mild and I see the first few seedlings germinating Tr kuribyashi these are under cover will put some fleece over them as I expect frost antime. The very first Trillium to grow here is Tr albidum it is well up now and we have a few just showing of Tr kuribyashi will cover those with leaves like you do. cheers Ian the Christie kind
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These posts spurred me to look back over the years to see the order of trillium blooms in my garden. Trillium rivale in pots is usually the first to bloom in mid-March, followed closely by T. kurabayashii, cloropetalum, and hibbersonii.
The order after that is T. rivale in the ground, pusillum, ovatum, & luteum, then cuneatum, albidum, grandiflorum, & parviflorum, then erectum & sulcatum. Vaseyi is usually the very last, in full bloom around the middle of May.
Peppa, I have plenty of T. kurabayashii to share (more like overrun with them). I'd be happy to give you a clump or two.
...still snowing and 1 degree C, with T. kurabayashii noses poking out of the snow in places
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Peppa - slug bait application is almost a daily necessity here.
Ian the Christie kind - Thank you for the warm welcome. If I had Trillium plants from just a small fraction of the seeds I've planted over the years, maybe I'd have Claire's problem (which I would love to have).
Claire - I have plenty of T. kurabayashii to share (more like overrun with them).
I don't think I could ever be overrun with them. :o
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Claire - I have plenty of T. kurabayashii to share (more like overrun with them).
I don't think I could ever be overrun with them. :o
It's my dream to be overrun with Trillium nivale .... bliss!
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It's my dream to be overrun with Trillium nivale .... bliss!
T. nivale is one I do not have yet. May need to remedy the situation as soon as possible. ;D
However, I haven't yet found a Trillium I didn't love.
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Thanks Claire!
I've seen a pot of Claire's T. rivale at one of our meetings, it was pretty impressive!!! :o
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Hey Pippa and Shadylanejewel, I too live in PNW - on the other side of the border on Vancouver Island. I clicked on because of the trillium - I'm a total beginner and just got a few trillium sulcatum seeds to try. I gather it takes two years to germinate and should be outdoors over winter - I plan on potting it up and putting it out but to be very honest it's cold and snowy and I'm a wimp. I'll get it out soon :-) I'm laughing at myself as we moved here from Calgary because I started to hate the -30/40 temps but I feel colder here with the damp - and I'm originally a Brit!
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Hi Sue,
Good to hear from another PNW'er! We've had some strange weather here over the last few days; I don't blame you for not wanting to go outside. :)
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Hi Sue!
I am also on Vancouver Island, in Victoria. Where are you located? I have some trillium seedlings I could share with you.
Bryan
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Hello Sue and Bryan - watch out Trillium collecting/growing can be highly addicting. Although since Bryan has enough seedlings to share, it is probably to late for the warning.
Just checked on seed of T. parviflorum and T. kurabayashii - they are being kept inside the house in moist vermiculite after already going through a chilling period. They'd been stored moist in the fridge since late July.
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I only have 6 species... so far... This springs trips to Fraser's Thimble Farm should remedy that quickly though...
Bryan
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I've coveted many plants from Fraser's Thimble Farms and not just their Trilliums. I'm sure I could spend a fortune there!
Really want - Hepatica nobilis Rubra Plena ;D
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It is an amazing place to wander through. My friend and I went twice last year, and we already have 3 trips planned for this spring... Soooooo many amazing things to covet! Even just the normal hepaticas for 5-8$ are wonderful plants that bloom like mad!
The rubra plena are wonderful too!! Saw a bunch at the study weekend last year, they were very pretty.
B
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Hi Bryan, I'm in Parksville and it looks like you're in Victoria? Are you in the VIRAG's? I think a few people from here went to hear ZZ talk tonight - he came and talked here last week and it was amazing. I would have liked to have gone tonight but I'm not so sure of the Mallahat plus I have a sick husband that I need to keep an eye on. Sue
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I am in VIRAGS and I was at ZZ s talk up your way, maybe we know each other. I am Mikes fiend in Victoria that goes with your group to the VIRAGS show and then people come to my garden for a tour etc. I will have it send mike with some plants for you!
B
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One month later and T. kurabayashii hasn't increased in height but is expanding!
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I am in VIRAGS and I was at ZZ s talk up your way, maybe we know each other. I am Mikes fiend in Victoria that goes with your group to the VIRAGS show and then people come to my garden for a tour etc. I will have it send mike with some plants for you!
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Hi Bryan, sorry - I'm still figuring the forum out and just saw your reply now. Yes, I was at ZZ's talk in QB - for the morning as I had to go to a funeral in the pm. I know Mike Miller - we're in the alpine group and we learn tons from him. He's going to show us how to plant a tufa rock next week. Haven't made it to Virags yet but hope to one day - Paul Spriggs is very enthusiastic about it. Met him when we did the crevice garden in Nanoose - I say we but actually Paul did it :-) Hope to meet you soon - are you going to hear Malcolm McGreggor in Vancouver? I'm hoping to make it. Thanks, I'd love some trillium - they're so beautiful. Thank you. Sue
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Here in the mid west of Sweden we need to be patient about our passion :) But to days weather (4*C and sun) it might not be too long...12 square meter of coldframes packed with Trillium seedlings and those few weeks more before it start growing seems a bit far away....but this feeling is not new...this is the normal "pre-spring" feeling starting in late February/March...the..Why-was-i-born-so-far-north feeling :)
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Welcome, Jonny!
I cannot imagine your long winters but I suppose the anticipation of what is to come.... all that life waiting to explode in your seedling frames, must be a powerful drug to help you cope? :)
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Thanks Maggi.
This winter has been more normal that the last two Siberian winters...only positive about them is that my compost increased dramatically :D...i don't know if it's possible but we might value spring more when winters are so long..and if summer encounter with a weekend we usually have a BBQ ;D...I could not wait..20 pots of Trillium's are inside and they are 10cm now...hopes for the first flowers in a couple of days... :)...///Jonny
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Welcome Jonny :) nice to see you here!
...this is the normal "pre-spring" feeling starting in late February/March...the..Why-was-i-born-so-far-north feeling :)
Know all about this feeling! But springtime is near ;D ...it is! Not very familiar to the trillium genus yet, but i have some treasures that I am waiting too see for the first time this year.
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Trillium kurabayashii finally showing some color. This is over a week behind previous years.
Also, a little offset with a double set of leaves.
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Trillium rhombifolium
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Very nice large group of trillium Jan. ;D They appear very similar to my Trillium flexipes.
Yesterday morning we had a freeze and a bit of snow. The first photo shows how T. kurabayashii looked at 8:45 am and then again at 11:04 am.
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Does anyone know if I need any sort of paperwork to bring seed bought from the USA into the UK please?
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Hi Ron,
A google search led me to this document (looks like it is from 2002/03) - http://www.fera.defra.gov.uk/plants/seeds/seedCertification/documents/seedImports.pdf (http://www.fera.defra.gov.uk/plants/seeds/seedCertification/documents/seedImports.pdf)
Seems to be the equivalent of our USDA - options for contacting them - http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/contacts/ (http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/contacts/)
You may want to also post your question in the Seed Exchange section - although Maggi will probably be along shortly with assistance. ;D
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Does anyone know if I need any sort of paperwork to bring seed bought from the USA into the UK please?
That Defra paper refers to commercial quantities of crop and fodder seeds mainly.
For small quantities of seed of garden plants, these can just be send in the post.
http://archive.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm/food/personal-import/pdf/personal-plants.pdf
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Thank you Julie and Maggi. Seems I'm sorted, ( provided a few ounces is classed as a small amount ). I'll follow the lead to find out. ;)
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Thank you Maggi! ;D
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Julie,
Your photos of your kurabayashii have tempted me to shoot a photo of one of mine. This one is the furthest when it comes to developing above ground. Between 15 and 20 centimeters already. Others are well above the ground too or just a couple of centimeters, but with these spring temperatures around here (10 to 12 degrees centigrade) everything is speeding up to appear.
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First Trillium this year.
Trillium chloropetalum
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Beautiful dark chloropetalum Michael!
John - I'd keep a close eye on the vertical spots along the stem on your kurabayashii. I noticed similar markings on the stem of a trillium at a nursery in Oregon, it turned out to be Urocystis trillii aka smut. :( I really hope it is not.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=6303.0
T. kurabayashii with five stems all with flowers from a single growth point this year.
Seedlings of kurabayashii - looks like one may be yellow. :)
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John - I'd keep a close eye on the vertical spots along the stem on your kurabayashii. I noticed similar markings on the stem of a trillium at a nursery in Oregon, it turned out to be Urocystis trillii aka smut. :( I really hope it is not.
Naaah, tell me that it isn't smut, please tell me.....please.... can you :'( ? Ooh well -sigh-, if it is, than I will have to deal with it :(.
I have just taken a picture of the stems. What do you reckon?
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:'( :'( :'(
Unfortunately John, that is exactly what the plant looked like prior to those areas splitting open. If they are in your garden, you may want to dig them up before they split as that is how the spores are spread. I am terribly sorry to be the bearer of this bad news. :(
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Hi Julie,
No you are not the bearer of bad news. The way I see it, I have to thank you for your vigilance :-*. Now I have the chance to prevent the fungus to develop mature sori and keep it from spreading even further. Lots and lots of other smaller kurabs are emerging in this kurab bed including many first year seedlings, so it would be terrible to see the whole bed destroyed.
It does hurt terribly though :'( :'( :'(
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No you are not the bearer of bad news. The way I see it, I have to thank you for your vigilance :-*. Now I have the chance to prevent the fungus to develop mature sori and keep it from spreading even further. Lots and lots of other smaller kurabs are emerging in this kurab bed including many first year seedlings, so it would be terrible to see the whole bed destroyed.
It does hurt terribly though :'( :'( :'(
I'm glad you have that attitude. Preventing the spread would be my first priority.
I noticed you also posted to the Trillium list http://mailman.science.uu.nl/pipermail/trillium-l/2012-March/date.html and already have some responses!
I agree that you should at least dig the plant and remove and discard all the soil. I would even remove soil from the bed around where that plant was growing at least as much as you can. Treatment using the fungicide recommended by Janos is worth a try. Maybe in combination with John L's recommendation and remove the foliage down to the rhizome.
Good Luck - I'm keeping fingers and toes and everything else crossed for you!
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Good luck with getting rid of this, John. At least it looks like you may have got it early enough, and hopefully no others in the bed show the same thing.
Here's hoping you get it all before it spreads. 8)
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Hard a decision as it may be, John.... and we know it does hurt.... I'd be inclined to dispose of the plant entirely ( not just the top growth) and clear out some soil around and disinfect the area. Too big a risk to take, I reckon.
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Hard a decision as it may be, John.... and we know it does hurt.... I'd be inclined to dispose of the plant entirely ( not just the top growth) and clear out some soil around and disinfect the area. Too big a risk to take, I reckon.
Big sigh!
To kill one in order to save many others sounds heroic and you gotta do what you need to do.....but somehow it feels like killing a loved one......or am I too dramatic now, it is just a plant right?
No hell it isn't, it is one of the more beautiful ones. The leaves have great colours and the flowers are deep and rich of colour. Why does it have to be this one >:(?
Oh get a grip, I am watching too many movies ::)
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Hard a decision as it may be, John.... and we know it does hurt.... I'd be inclined to dispose of the plant entirely ( not just the top growth) and clear out some soil around and disinfect the area. Too big a risk to take, I reckon.
I've been thinking (dangerous I know), but your plant also looks quite mature. If you've had it quite awhile and this is the first time with the fungus, it had to come from somewhere. Be sure to closely watch all your other plants as they are coming up.
Maggi said what I just couldn't bring myself to recommend - destroying the plant would be the safest option.
No hell it isn't, it is one of the more beautiful ones. The leaves have great colours and the flowers are deep and rich of colour. Why does it have to be this one >:(?
I've had the kurabayashii shown in this thread for years. I'd be sick if something happened to it.
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Trillium cuneatum seedling with very nice markings and burgundy blush.
Trillium cuneatum on hillside.
Trillium flexipes just coming up and last but not least Trillium kurabayashii yellow seedling.
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Julie,
I love the markings on the cuneatum. So much nicer than the form I have here. Are these seedlings from your own plants? Aren't good leaf markings just so cool. ;D There for longer than the flowers, so you get even more enjoyment out of them. 8)
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Lovely cuneatum seedling :)...atleast 2-3 weeks more before i can look at them here...time moves slow...How common is that fungus by the way?.....//Jonny
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Julie,
I love the markings on the cuneatum. So much nicer than the form I have here. Are these seedlings from your own plants? Aren't good leaf markings just so cool. ;D There for longer than the flowers, so you get even more enjoyment out of them. 8)
I agree completely Paul, leaf color/markings are very important. The seedlings are from my plants (cuneatum seed planted 2005). The kurabayashii seed was planted in 2003.
Lovely cuneatum seedling :)...atleast 2-3 weeks more before i can look at them here...time moves slow...How common is that fungus by the way?.....//Jonny
Thankfully, I don't think the fungus is very common. In over 30 years of growing trillium, I've only seen it twice. Unfortunately for John, his plant was the second time.
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Thats good news....(Does not help John much and feels with him)...over 20 years of growing Trilliums here and i have never seen it...Potting small T.kamtschaticum and T.sulcatum seedlings today and it slowely starts to happen somthing here...this short winter have been like always...to long......//Jonny
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After seeing the picture of John Aipassa's Trillium kurabayashii I took a torch light and went out into the garden to check my Trillium kurabayashii's. I think that my plants might also have this smut disease. I took some pictures this morning. What is the verdict?
My garden is in the south of the Netherlands. I planted these Trilliums 3 years ago. They were bought in the UK.
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Trillium cuneatum looks healthy and thriving.
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my first Trillium nivale this year
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Several Trillium got the nose up and a few have buds but it is still only nivale that got flowers. Three-four years ago around 2 angustipetalum the came about 200 seedplants and maybe the will be flowers in a few for first time this year.
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Trillium cuneatum, T. sessile, and T. stramineum are up with buds showing. T. nivale has very few blooms this year, and I'm a bit worried. Nivale usually blooms very profusely here in Indiana, where it is native in the south and west of the State.
Jim
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First of the Trillium ovatum Roy Elliott in flower today. 2 inches tall, might make 4 inches when seed sets.
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Well well I haven't checked this post since yesterday and here are several photos of Trillium nivale. Something must not be working right with the "Show unread posts since last visit." link, as every time I'd check, only a very few posts would show up and this one wasn't on the list.
I started another post under Plant Identification Questions and Answers for id help of some Trillium nivale I bought this year. http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8769.0 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8769.0) The more I look at these and other photos of T. nivale, the more I'm sure I bought T. pusillum.
After seeing the picture of John Aipassa's Trillium kurabayashii I took a torch light and went out into the garden to check my Trillium kurabayashii's. I think that my plants might also have this smut disease. I took some pictures this morning. What is the verdict?
The markings along the stems could be the fungus, however, I'm not positive. If you are willing to sacrifice a stem, cut one which has the lesions, put it in a baggie and bring it inside where it is warm. I'm going by memory here so not sure if this is exactly right. If it is smut, it will take a week or so for the lesions to mature and rupture. Hopefully, if it is smut, the plants in your garden will not have advanced to this point (although it would depend on the weather). Then you would have time to remove the plants and if it is not, then you'll only be out one stem instead of all your plants.
Your T. cuneatum is huge and has gorgeous leaf mottling! 8)
Wolfgang & Karl - I can't wait to have a nice grouping of T. nivale like both of you. ;D
Karl - what in the world did you do to get that many seedlings of T. angustipetalum? :o :o :o 8)
Jim - I hope all is well for your T. nivale.
Mike - T. ovatum 'Roy Elliott' sure is a cute little trillium.
Hopefully within the next few days, this little T. rivale will open. (sorry the photo is a little blurry)
Trillium ovatum are now in bloom - just checked a few days ago and didn't see any now they are starting to show all over. We have hundreds throughout our 8 acres - the fragrance is just wonderful on a warm day. Unfortunately, we haven't had one of those since last year.
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Well some happy news for me. My first and healthy kurabayashii flowering now :). At least I can enjoy this one. I checked all my other kurabs, albidums etc. growing on other places in the garden. None of them have the spots or lesions, phew! Three other kurabayashii growing close to the infected one also have no spots or lesions, hmm :-\.
I have no idea where my fungus came from. Almost all my western sessiles are of UK (Scottish) origin. A few from Lithuania and some angustipetalum seedlings from the PNW in the US.
I have enclosed a photo of an infected Trillium with mature sori including spores on the stem. The photo is from the Oregon State University http://oregonstate.edu/dept/nurspest/smut_Trillium.html
Also a photo of one of my cuneatum. I like this dark one with beautiful mottling on the leaves.
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Well some happy news for me.
John - that is very good news! Great to hear the fungus isn't widespread in your garden.
I have no idea where my fungus came from.
After reading most everything I could find on the net, as you've found it would be difficult to determine the original source.
Also a photo of one of my cuneatum. I like this dark one with beautiful mottling on the leaves.
:o 8) - Love the bright spring green in contrast to the deep dark chocolate color. The mottling is exceptional!
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Julie I do not know what I do, maybe I'm just lucky ;D
or it is what I do in my soil, peat (acid sphagnum) lot of old beech leaves and fir needles mixed with my ordinary good mould.
One of my first apetalon flourish
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maybe I'm just lucky ;D
I'd say you have the luck of the Irish except that I assume based on your location that you are Danish?
Nature adds maple leaves and I add other ingredients (such as fir needles) to my rocky soil, but it seems to increase the worms which increases the moles, which increases the voles, which decrease the trilliums. >:(
Your T. apetalon is Beautiful! ;D
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Although Trilliums are woodland plants they like to have sufficient light.
Here is a photo of kurabayashii growing in deep shade. And another one which is growing with much more light available. The plants are seedlings from the same batch. The one in deep shade does not develop the beautiful markings on the leaves and stays a little dull. It does not clump well either since it has only one stem for a couple of years now since it started to flower.
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Although Trilliums are woodland plants they like to have sufficient light.
Here is a photo of kurabayashii growing in deep shade. And another one which is growing with much more light available. The plants are seedlings from the same batch. The one in deep shade does not develop the beautiful markings on the leaves and stays a little dull. It does not clump well either since it has only one stem for a couple of years now since it started to flower.
With me one of very few growing very well outdors and splitting very well, too. May be my are of different origin?
Janis
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With me one of very few growing very well outdors and splitting very well, too. May be my are of different origin?
Janis
Kurabayashii is easy and clumps up very well in the garden normally. Last late summer I dug up my oldest rhizome. It had more than 15 large offsets. I took them off and replanted them elsewhere in the garden. All of them have come up and some are now growing further with even two stems already. Can't have enough of kurabayashii, my favourite Trillium.
So my clumps with sufficient light do very well. Only the same seedlings I planted in deep shade will not clump up as well as their brothers and sisters. I am going to replant these ones (6 mature rhizomes) to a more sunnier spot in the garden in late August this year.
Of different origin is possible, but true kurabayashii is only known from two small areas: the redwoods in the California/Oregon border area (Klamath & Siskiyou Mountains) and a small area in the Sierra Nevada mountains in California. I believe kurabs of garden origin are likely close related and possibly not pure anymore and have hybridized with red chloropetalum in all these years of cultivation. It is not long ago that the chloropetalum sold and growing in the garden are actually considered to be kurabayashii.
My so called chloropetalum does not do very well as my kurabayashii though. Some have disappeared, some stay dormant for one or two years and some will not clump up well. And they flower later than my kurabs.
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Trillium flexipes
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Perfect flower, Michael. Beautiful!
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Perfect flower, Michael. Beautiful!
I agree - exquisite. T. flexipes is one of my favorites.
Mine reach over 2 feet tall (as long as nothing eats them). Last year my cage wasn't tall enough so this year I have a 4' cage over them.
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Beautiful flexipes Michael. Still to early to any of my flexipes flourish.
One of mine ovatum open the flowers yesterday and for me it is one of the best; ovatum 'Roy Elliot' only about 15 cm. high. and grow very well.
My first chloropetalum, maybe v. giganteum. I got it several years ago as Californicum Rubrum and I mean it is a old name for chloropetalum v. giganteum, if there are diffrent between chloropetalum and the variety giganteum?
My first smalii flourish and it is plants with any petals (smallii can get from 0 to 3 petals and mostly they are deform.
Trillium x miyabeanum with 3 petals and it is sterile.
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kurabayashii
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Trillium Pusillum looking wonderful today.
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I love this time of year!
Trillium rivale seedling first year bloom.
Just a few of the many Trillium ovatum in our woods and one T. ovatum facing upwards probably trying to find the sun. We are headed for a record breaking month of rain.
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Great Trilliums everyone. Thanks for posting. I particularly love the ovatum and the pusillum, although if I was really listing all the ones I liked then it would be a long list. Thanks for the lovely pics..... a long way of Trillium time here as yet, but with this summer and autumn how it has been, you just never know. ::)
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Trillium cuneatum
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Hey Trillium lovers -
Heres some shots of native kurabayashii taken a couple of weeks ago taken in Humboldt County CA near Hoopa.
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Lovely Trillium pictures.
A bit too soon for them in my garden but the seedling in my coldframes Finlay start to pop up....//Jonny
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Hey Trillium lovers -
Heres some shots of native kurabayashii taken a couple of weeks ago taken in Humboldt County CA near Hoopa.
Greetings, Larry - thanks for sharing. A treat to see these fat clumps!
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Lovely Trillium pictures.
A bit too soon for them in my garden but the seedling in my coldframes Finlay start to pop up....//Jonny
Lots of promise there, Jonny.
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I like your frames/plunges, Jonny. Nice job! I finally built some similar structures last fall after losing too many plants in unprotected pots from cold & heat over the years.
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Lovely Trillium pictures.
A bit too soon for them in my garden but the seedling in my coldframes Finlay start to pop up....//Jonny
Lovely pictures Jonny,
Are the Chloropetalum seedlings?
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It's chloropetalum,sessile.recurvatum albidum,sulcatum nivale,rivale,vaseyi etc....Those that have started on the pic. are recurvatum and some sessile...3 years old....Hopefully there will be some nice crosses too...albidum x kurabayashii and some others too...but there are a few years more before i can post a pic of them here.... :)...Jonny
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It's chloropetalum,sessile.recurvatum albidum,sulcatum nivale,rivale,vaseyi etc....Those that have started on the pic. are recurvatum and some sessile...3 years old....Hopefully there will be some nice crosses too...albidum x kurabayashii and some others too...but there are a few years more before i can post a pic of them here.... :)...Jonny
Patience is a vitue Jonny.
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Jonny, I like your nice orderly frames too. I take the lazier approach, sowing seed in situ, directly where I will leaves the plants to grow.
Two years ago I received a lots of fresh Trillium seed in mid-late summer, over 20 different varieties. I expanded some of my beds outdoors with the purpose of sowing all the seed outside directly in the garden. I was hoping, since the seed was fresh, that I could get accelerated seed germination the first year (hypogeal germination, followed by true cotyledon germination) all in one season, which can happen. The following spring I got only a few seedlings, out of an estimated 2000-2500 seeds sown.
This year is the 2nd spring for the sown trillium seed, thankfully many are now showing good germination. The following photo (sorry, not very good quality) shows a view where I marked the location for seed sown of Trillium pusillum v. alabamicum. There is one bigger leaf, it appeared the first spring. But looking closely, there are about 20 fresh seedlings appearing. Will probably need to wait another 4-5 years before flowering.
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Really nice seedling of a really nice Trillium...You should have seen how it looked a few years ago...a complete mess...I think i have over 500 potts labeled Trillium sp. just because of the simple facts that i though i could remember without labels... :-\...i have been experimenting a little with seeds and it seems...(Not sure yet)...that if you sow just before they ripe...like Cypripedium... there are more percent germinating first year...and there are diff. betwine the spices for sure...if that related to the specific Trillium or a combination of habitat and half riped seeds i'm not sure...at least Trillium rugelli have at least 90% germination the first year here...And Trillium vaseyi are self sowing everywhere here but they rarely look like there parents....Jonny
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Larry your pictures are just wonderful - as are the plants of course. Don't they look so good springing from among other native plants around them?
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I'll second that motion Leslie; Larry those are truly splendid clumps of T. kurabayashii. I wonder why this species is almost never seen in gardens in Eastern USA, it certainly must be amenable to cultivation judging from the popularity of this fine species in Europe.
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Kurabayashii certainly grows easily here in the midwest U.S.
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Hey Trillium lovers -
Heres some shots of native kurabayashii taken a couple of weeks ago taken in Humboldt County CA near Hoopa.
Phantastic, Larry! ;D ;D ;D No other comments.
Janis
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Indeed, those pictures of T. kurabayashii in the wild are beautifull!
In my garden yesterday:
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The season is starting with some nice plants here
Here are some from me
T rivale from AGS seed some years ago now with its own seedlings
T rivale Winifred Murray with a stray seedling of the last plant in the middle
T chlorapetalum.
A Trillium which I bought more than 30 years ago from Blooms as sessile has seeded itself all over the garden and has probably hybridised. The variety of leaf patterns are amazing
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Gorgeous Trilliums Ian.
Is that Rhododendron campanulatum at the rear right in the last photo?
johnw
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Gorgeous Trilliums Ian.
Is that Rhododendron campanulatum at the rear right in the last photo?
johnw
Yes John and well spotted ;) If I remember correctly it is the Knap Hill form
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Thanks Ian.
I hope you don't have too may people fainting into your Trillium bed.
johnw
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I was just thinking that with such great beds of trillium there could be any number of swooning admirers lying under the foliage. ::)
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Hey Trillium lovers -
Heres some shots of native kurabayashii taken a couple of weeks ago taken in Humboldt County CA near Hoopa.
Simply stunning, Larry!!
I'll second that motion Leslie; Larry those are truly splendid clumps of T. kurabayashii. I wonder why this species is almost never seen in gardens in Eastern USA, it certainly must be amenable to cultivation judging from the popularity of this fine species in Europe.
Mark,
the western Trillium species grow very good in Belgium. The eastern species don't.
So maybe it's the same in the States? The western species might not grow very well in the east?
The season is starting with some nice plants here
Here are some from me
T rivale from AGS seed some years ago now with its own seedlings
T rivale Winifred Murray with a stray seedling of the last plant in the middle
T chlorapetalum.
A Trillium which I bought more than 30 years ago from Blooms as sessile has seeded itself all over the garden and has probably hybridised. The variety of leaf patterns are amazing
:o :o
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the western Trillium species grow very good in Belgium. The eastern species don't.
So maybe it's the same in the States? The western species might not grow very well in the east?
That's odd, the Eastern and Westerns species both do really well here in S Norway, and we're not that much colder than you... The only one I can't grow is T. rivale, it just doesn't seem hardy.
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the western Trillium species grow very good in Belgium. The eastern species don't.
So maybe it's the same in the States? The western species might not grow very well in the east?
That's odd, the Eastern and Westerns species both do really well here in S Norway, and we're not that much colder than you... The only one I can't grow is T. rivale, it just doesn't seem hardy.
I haven't got a clue why, but even the best Trillium growers here in Belgium (Callens, Van Poucke) struggle to keep the eastern species alive and growing. The western species grow very well!! Probably something climatological!
John Lonsdale also says the western species don't grow very well on the eastern coastal plains: "and the Western sessile trillium species struggle on the eastern Piedmont and coastal plain because they dislike hot & humid summers." (http://www.edgewoodgardens.net/articles/winterthur_trillium.html)
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Thanks Ian.
I hope you don't have too may people fainting into your Trillium bed.
johnw
I was just thinking that with such great beds of trillium there could be any number of swooning admirers lying under the foliage. ::)
must have a look ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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In my garden yesterday:
Lovely Trilliums!!!!!!
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Garden Prince, I love your Kurabayashii ! wonderful flower color ::)
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the western Trillium species grow very good in Belgium. The eastern species don't.
So maybe it's the same in the States? The western species might not grow very well in the east?
That's odd, the Eastern and Westerns species both do really well here in S Norway, and we're not that much colder than you... The only one I can't grow is T. rivale, it just doesn't seem hardy.
I haven't got a clue why, but even the best Trillium growers here in Belgium (Callens, Van Poucke) struggle to keep the eastern species alive and growing. The western species grow very well!! Probably something climatological!
John Lonsdale also says the western species don't grow very well on the eastern coastal plains: "and the Western sessile trillium species struggle on the eastern Piedmont and coastal plain because they dislike hot & humid summers." (http://www.edgewoodgardens.net/articles/winterthur_trillium.html)
We had this discussed several times on Trillium-L. The Western sessiles have great difficulties in the eastern parts of the US. Fellow members of T-L have "blamed" the climatological difference as you have mentioned. Although it is the same continent, the difference between west and east is very significant and cannot be presumed as being the same because it is 'American'. Only very few eastern US T-L members manage to maintain Western species in their garden. Most of them get them killed.
The Eastern species having difficulties in Belgium has also got to do with your climatological circumstances. Your zone 8 and maritime climate is not favoured by the Eastern species which are used to a more continental climate regime with cold winters and hot summers. The species of the South for instance underwoodii and decumbens are used to milder winters but have to deal with (very) hot humid summers. That said erectum, sulcatum, vaseyi etc are all doing fine in the UK, which is also z8 (most parts).
I have great difficulties with erectum and vaseyi. Sulcatum is doing fine though.
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Hey Trillium lovers -
Heres some shots of native kurabayashii taken a couple of weeks ago taken in Humboldt County CA near Hoopa.
Hi Larry,
Maybe you should share your wonderful photos of wild chloropetalums here too. I am sure others would enjoy them as much as I have :o
And they get to see different chloropetalums in comparison to the usual garden forms we get to see here.
Cheers,
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I like your frames/plunges, Jonny. Nice job! I finally built some similar structures last fall after losing too many plants in unprotected pots from cold & heat over the years.
That is why I started to sow in situ or just let the trilliums self sow around. Lost too many seedlings because of the unprotected pots here too and............ maybe I am just a bit lazy too like Mark 8)...........OK, I admit it ;D
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Well John, now that you mention it........................... These were taken the first week of March in San Mateo and Santa Cruz Counties, CA
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Just noticed something exciting in the garden. In spring last year my T. hibbersonii didnt appear and I put that down to them being killed in the freeze during December 2010.
I noticed some pink today ... they are back
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Well John, now that you mention it........................... These were taken the first week of March in San Mateo and Santa Cruz Counties, CA
Horray! These are terrific. What variation!
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Well John, now that you mention it........................... These were taken the first week of March in San Mateo and Santa Cruz Counties, CA
Larry lovely to see these in the wild, thanks
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Well John, now that you mention it........................... These were taken the first week of March in San Mateo and Santa Cruz Counties, CA
:) :) :) :-*
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Just noticed something exciting in the garden. In spring last year my T. hibbersonii didnt appear and I put that down to them being killed in the freeze during December 2010.
I noticed some pink today ... they are back
That is great news. I believe hibbersonii is not easily killed by frost in your country. When planted in the garden that is. If you had it in a pot the chance would be quite bigger.
I have angustipetalum appearing again this year after being 'lost' last year. This year one of my kurabayashii decided to not appear and last year it was one of my chloropetalums appearing again after a year of absence. Trilliums do this once and a while. It is sensible to check the rhizome first before thinking it is lost and wanting to plant something else on the specific spot. Often it is a sign for not being happy though, so checking the rhizome is always a good plan. A couple of years ago I did not check on several chloropetalum giganteum when they did not appear or appeared smaller than the years before. Thinking that they will appear eventually. Almost all of them are now gone. A nearby Acer palmatum had developed a very tight root system and apparently choked the chloropetalums. It happened with an erectum too :'(. I should've replanted them in time. Lesson learned.
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Trillium chloropetalum
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Oh Roma, what a picture perfect clump, exquisite!
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Well John, now that you mention it........................... These were taken the first week of March in San Mateo and Santa Cruz Counties, CA
Larry, thank you for showing us the remarkable variation of Trillium chloropetalum, quite an education, and of course, it's always great seeing plants and plant variation as found in the wild. The second photo of a superb red form makes one's head spin :o
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:o :o :o Yes Thank You Larry & Roma. Gorgeous T. chloropetalum photos.
I will definitely be heading south next year in Feb/March to hopefully view some T. kurabayashii and T. chloropetalum in their natural environment.
While I'm waiting, I'll mix some pollen around.
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Has anyone visited the purported population of T. kurabayashii at Sequoia National Park? I see pictures from Europe of T. kurabayashii that don't look like the wild plants I see in Northern, CA and wonder if they are hybrids or if a different form grows down south???
What a crazy year. It's snowing here again. I don't have a single trillium flowering in the garden.
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could somebody i.d this for me please.
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/davep1970/DSCF0016.jpg)
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Hi all,
Can anyone advise me on whether this is true T. nivale or not? it was bought as such a few weeks ago but, now it's out, I am doubtful and think maybe T. pusillum is more likely. If it helps, there is a faint pink blush on the back of the petals as well.
A disappointment if so, as I've been looking for T. nivale for years - can't find plants or seed anywhere.
Cheers,
Alex
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I should say, it's about 10 cm tall. Any help much appreciated, I am no botanist!
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Looks like a form of T.pusillum, Alex. Which is not that often offered itself....that's the good news.
I think T. nivale must be one of the trillium whic is most often mis-supplied ..... that's the bad news. :'( >:(
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Thank you, Maggi.
Rather a disappointment. T. pusillum might be choice in it's own right but it's T. nivale I want to grow! While I hate wrongly named stuff, they weren't very expensive, so I can't complain too much.
Meanwhile the search of at least 5 years' standing now goes on....
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Hello Alex,
I understand exactly how you feel. I really wanted T. nivale as I already have a fairly large amount of T. pusillum. :(
www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=8320.120;num_replies=121 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=8320.120;num_replies=121)
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If you are interested in seeing some Trillium rivale see this week's Bulb Log.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2012Apr041333540332BULB_LOG__1412.pdf
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If you are interested in seeing some Trillium rivale see this week's Bulb Log.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2012Apr041333540332BULB_LOG__1412.pdf
Your Bulb Log is always a source of beautiful images as well as precious information, but WOW, I learned so much about Trillium today.
Thank you!!
Koko
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Ian, I second Koko's sentiments, what an awesome educational essay on Trillium rivale; inspirational! :o :o
This is a species I have not tried, although my understanding is that it's not hardy here outdoors. What is interesting, is that so many of the southeastern USA trillium species (ones from the "deep south") are perfectly hardy in New England, many zones colder.
The following three trillium species have been queued up ready to bloom, but with the nightly frosts and cool temperatures they're taking their sweet time. These three species are shown together here because they're related in a way, all come from deep southeastern USA, each with a narrow distribution range, all are hardy in New England.
Trillium gracile from a collection in Texas, is finally showing some buds after several years, I'm so anxious to see the flowers. The plants are very small with the leaves low to the ground, but the stems will elongate somewhat.
T. gracile distibution, Sabine River wakerobin, Slender trillium.
(narrow range in Texas & Louisiana)
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=8108&flora_id=1
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Trillium ludovicianum, Louisiana wakerobin, has flowered here the past couple years. Just one plant, hasn't set any seed so far.
Distribution map: (narrow range, FNA: Louisiana, Mississippi, USDA range map includes Alabama)
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=8111&flora_id=1
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I have Trillium foetidissimum from several sources, it's a reliable and attractive species. I also have some coming along from seed.
T. foetidissimum distribution, Mississippi River wakerobin, Stinking trillium
(narrow range in Louisiana & Mississippi)
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=8107&flora_id=1
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I'll follow up with photos when they're in flower.
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I also want to say thanks to Ian, not just for this weeks great piece, but for all the years he's shared information.
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If you are interested in seeing some Trillium rivale see this week's Bulb Log.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2012Apr041333540332BULB_LOG__1412.pdf
I wish to complain to the management.
Logs like this are going to lead innocent people like me astray. ::)
I don't have room for Trilliums ( he says as he checks nurseries).
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Well complained Fred ;D. I had the same urges :o
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Davey, yours could be maculatum - not sure though. :-\
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Davey, yours could be maculatum - not sure though. :-\
Thanks Lesley i will put Maculatum? on the label.
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If you are interested in seeing some Trillium rivale see this week's Bulb Log.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2012Apr041333540332BULB_LOG__1412.pdf
I wish to complain to the management.
Logs like this are going to lead innocent people like me astray. ::)
I don't have room for Trilliums ( he says as he checks nurseries).
Well complained Fred ;D. I had the same urges :o
I have often felt that the photos in the Forum should contain warnings : "Viewing this plant may arouse feelings of covetousness, disturb your equilibrium and may damage your bank balance"
but we'd need to repeat it so many times that the whole site would be taken up with such notices. :D :D
Trouble is, of course, that it's never 'just one' is it? It's like puppies... a whole litter is much more appealing that just one...... ;)
At least a whole batch of T. rivale takes up less space than a batch of the bigger species!
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Summed up beautifully Maggi, ;D ;D
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I'm already wearing stilts to get about out there, they need less room than feet. ::)
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I'm already wearing stilts to get about out there, they need less room than feet. ::)
Crikey! I never thought of that! A stroke of genius, Fred.
Except : I am able to fall over on a flat, even surface, stone cold sober .... are stilts likely to prove a success for me? Plus, I nearly got a nosebleed climbing into the high front seat of Angela's 4x4 the other day...... ::) :-\
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Perhaps the secret is not to be so sober ;D
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Perhaps the secret is not to be so sober ;D
I hadn't thought of THAT, either! ;D ;D ;D
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Our dark Trillium cuneatum from Don Armstrong is indeed dark this year.
johnw +2c and spitting snow.
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Trillium cuneatum with Fritillaria meleagris.
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Our dark Trillium cuneatum from Don Armstrong is indeed dark this year.
johnw +2c and spitting snow.
OOOHH! They are stunning!
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My first Trillium (T. ovatum) this season (came few years ago from Preston's nursery in New Zealand - import here from NZ is much more easy than backway :'()
Janis
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That is very true Janis! >:(
John, I think those are black and white photos. :) The LEAVES are that dark? Wow!
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Trillium pusillum - just a close up and the sexy bits
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wow John nice black buds..cant wait to see them unfold...flower colour?
cheers
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wow John nice black buds..cant wait to see them unfold...flower colour?cheers
Stephen - Here's a pic from last year. The leaves were not their best due to months of rain and no sun.
I think this dry spring has intensified the leaf colouration.
johnw
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Very nice form, John!
Mark, you are a little ahead of me - my pusillum lacks a day or two to open properly. Got several plants from a friend last year and they have all overwintered unscathed in the pots. haven't dared to plant them out yet - afraid of slugs!
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John; Beautiful dark cuneatum.
We've had cold weather but none of my Trillium has been damaged. I look forward to see my new Trillium with special leaves.
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My pusillums are in troughs. As for slugs I feed them their favourite food - slug pellets
Stilts - I could have done with them years ago. There isnt a day go by that I dont stand on or kick over a pot
Amazon sells stilts ;D http://www.amazon.co.uk/Junior-Hold-on-Wooden-stilts/dp/B005J4MLWW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1334227955&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Junior-Hold-on-Wooden-stilts/dp/B005J4MLWW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1334227955&sr=8-2)
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Finally caught up with this topic. Some breathtaking stuff in here. The range of the wild chloropetalums was amazing, just for starters.
John, when those dark Trillium continue to emerge, could you please share pics with us? They look almost black at this stage. Never seen anything like it before.
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My pusillums are in troughs. As for slugs I feed them their favourite food - slug pellets
Stilts - I could have done with them years ago. There isnt a day go by that I dont stand on or kick over a pot
Amazon sells stilts ;D http://www.amazon.co.uk/Junior-Hold-on-Wooden-stilts/dp/B005J4MLWW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1334227955&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Junior-Hold-on-Wooden-stilts/dp/B005J4MLWW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1334227955&sr=8-2)
Slug pellets make the slugs stronger and bigger seemingly :-\
And for the stilts, if you step into a pot you'll get a nice hole to put a new plant in ;)
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Stilts - I could have done with them years ago. There isnt a day go by that I dont stand on or kick over a pot
Amazon sells stilts ;D http://www.amazon.co.uk/Junior-Hold-on-Wooden-stilts/dp/B005J4MLWW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1334227955&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Junior-Hold-on-Wooden-stilts/dp/B005J4MLWW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1334227955&sr=8-2)
You'll get nothing done in those Mark.
Get a good pair of strap-ons, you need to be hands free.
See ad below ( was Maggi the model?)
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I must have missed that post from Fred because I too, wondered what the stilt reference was about.
I though the inbetween storey - between the canopy and the groundcovers - was supposed to made up of rhodos and the like, not men on stilts. ;D
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thanks John for showing your cuneatums,,very nice but will wait for the intensify leaf colours. They always come in differant shades and change from day to day when freshly expanding
cheers
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The slow progress of Trillium cuneatum ex Don Armstrong from yesterday.
johnw
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The backs of the leaves are amazing John, worth waiting for no doubt!
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I have found this unusual seedling in the garden, I think it is Trillium grandiflorum, but I've never seen one with this dark pink staining inside the flowers. It's very different from the "roseum" form.
It’s only just opening and has opened with this colour. Is it virus?? or an unusual form??
Sorry for cross posting this on Trillium-L
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It's remarkable, Diane. Does it have extra leaves as well - can't quite make out from the photo. A lucky find!
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I think the leaves are normal, but I took the picture hurridly as light was fading and the plant is in a bit of a tangle with some pulmonaria. I'll sort it out tomorrow and get a better look.
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Superb form Diane I have never seen anything like it look after it and hope it will increase.
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Diane,
Lovely very dark form. There is evidence in the photos of very high levels of anthocyanin pigment in the leaves as well as the flowers. It looks like you've found something unique!
David
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It certainly doesn't look like a virus, just a wonderful colour form. After all, some of the rivales have great colouring from the throat outwards so why not grandiflorum from time to time? You'll be able to retire on this one Diane, if you can work out how to propagate quickly and in quantity. ;D
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Definitely worth trying to self this plant!
You would have no trouble getting rid of any spare seed or seedlings.
As the pigment is visible in the leaves it should be pretty obvious
fairly quickly if the next generation is also heavily pigmented,
David
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Diane I don't think it is virus, I think it is a unusual form and a very beautiful form as you can be very happy for, I am sure all who made Trillium from seeds, hope they one day will be so lucky as you. I mean I have read that grandiflorum don't cross with other Trillium I don't know why. Once a friend send me some Trillium, one of them looked like grandiflorum but it was pink on the outside of the petals and ivory-white indside, then I toll my friend it he was surprised, he have never had a grandiflorum roseum in his garden. Take care of you new Trillium.
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It's remarkable, Diane. Does it have extra leaves as well - can't quite make out from the photo. A lucky find!
Anne, I see what you mean from the picture about the leaves, but it is quite normal, the picture shows two flower heads ;D and corresponding number of leaves.
Thanks everyone for their comments, it confirms my feeling that this is something special. My plant can't be ex roseum, as although I have now got roseum, I haven't had it long enough to have made this flowering sized plant. Two postings on Trillium-L show a similar form from Virginia but this colour form seems very rare in cultivation. I'll get some more pictures when the flowers open properly. I've just had to run in to escape a vicious hailstorm ::)
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Yikes!Hail! I hope you've got a cloche over that Trillium?
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Yikes!Hail! I hope you've got a cloche over that Trillium?
Oh yes, a big one, 10' x 8'
;D ;D ;D ;D
(it's now in a pot)
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Thank goodness for that. Your find is too special to be left to the weather. Goodness knows how much worse it's going to get over the next few days... forecast seems very gloomy.
Best of luck with the plant....will be looking forward to more photos. :)
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If you decide to give it a cultivar name at some stage, I hope you'll give it a name that identifies it as especially your own, not something like 'Hot Lips' or Glowing Red' which could have come from anywhere. 8)
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Diane - I do hope that the plant proves to be self fertile and produces lots of viable seed.
I'm really proud of this group of trillium albidum's growing in amongst some martagon lilies.
They all came from a single seed pod sown about 5 or 6 years ago from a selfing of my only plant.
Last week I looked at them by chance after a rain shower on a quiet still evening and was struck by just how scented they were 'en masse'.
It's a fleeting but lovely rose scent. The parent plant was similarly scented but you had to get our nose into the flower to smell it,
Regards,
David
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That,s a lovely group of Albidum.
Mine has only got leaves for the third year running >:(................Tips anyone?
Other Trilliums do flower reliably.
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Trillium rhombifolium - Russia
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I just want to share some of my albidum clumps.
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Lovely, John.
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John, without comment, drool ;D
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Thank you Anne and Jan.
Here are chloropetalum red and close ups of kurabayashii
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John; Very beautiful Trillium and good clump of albidum they must have a fantastic scent.
My nine-leaved Trillium have nearly open all leaves.
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John; Very beautiful Trillium and good clump of albidum they must have a fantastic scent.
My nine-leaved Trillium have nearly open all leaves.
Yes Karl, the smell is lovely.
Your nine leaf Trillium, which species is it? I guess there is no flower bud?
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A few others starting to flower:
1. Trillium erectum from Ontario CA
2. Trillium cuneatum
3. Trillium grandiflorum
4. Trillium albidum with broad petals (huge flowers, notice my thumb)
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A super set, John.
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Nice plants everyone. Just a couple from me
T grandiflorum roseum not yet quite open yet but well ahead of the white form
T simile
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Nice plants John especially your cuneatum a species which I like very much because of the fine marble leaves. I do not know what species my nine leaf plant is perhaps erectum? I have written and asked the person that I got it from but he has not send me a reply yet. I know he got it from his father as bought from a Danish nursery many many years ago.
Ian Fantastic plants, especially your grandiflorum f. Roseum what a colour BEAUTIFUL ;)
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A magnificent plant Ian of T. grandiflorum f. roseum and especially with those dark leaves. A real beauty. 8)
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I have two new (to me) Trillium species in bloom here this year. I missed the bloom on T. lancifolium, but T. stramineum is just now in bloom. Old favorite T. flexipes is also still blooming here.
Jim
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Your T grandiflorum roseum is a pure beauty Ian ;)
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Your T grandiflorum roseum is a pure beauty Ian ;)
A magnificent plant Ian of T. grandiflorum f. roseum and especially with those dark leaves. A real beauty. 8)
Ian Fantastic plants, especially your grandiflorum f. Roseum what a colour BEAUTIFUL ;)
Thanks Karl, Lesley and Nicole I will try to post another picture when it opens fully
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Hello Ian everyone some super Trillium pictures, despite the snow fall in April which broke many flower stems our trilliums are now looking good most are flowering but a few are still emerging from winter. I show a few pictures from the garden, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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Fantastic Trillium chloropetalum Yellow Form
and of-course the other too
but that Trillium chloropetalum Yellow Form is amazing
Roland
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nice lot of trilliums
John nice large T albidum with the broad petals
and Ian that yellow choropetalum is something special
thanks for showing
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Thanks all for comments, I am posting a few more pictures from the garden some of the trilliums are seed raised, cheers Ian.
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Ian can you show us an other angle picture
from Trillium albidum cherry base
This one also looks spectacular
Roland
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Hello Roland, the Trillium albidum has lost some intensity of colour as it is beginning to go over, I post some more pictures, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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Thanks Ian
They are fantastic
I love the inside
nice colour
Roland
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They are fantastic
I love the inside
nice colour
Roland
They smell good, too ! ;D
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They smell good, too ! ;D
That's what I miss on this forum ;D
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Hello again just to confuse things I will now post pictures of another Trillium albidum form which is almost half as big as the other one and the petals are totally different it has very few leaf makings and just a little scent. I do know that Tr albidum can be found over quite a large area in USA but this sure is different, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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Hello again I forgot to post the picture of the two Trillium albidums together, cheers Ian.
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Love that gif Roland. Heaven knows I threw out enough hints when Fred was doing the business but as always, no-one listens to me. >:(
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Love that gif Roland. Heaven knows I threw out enough hints when Fred was doing the business but as always, no-one listens to me. >:(
Me too, Lesley.... Fred is such a helpful chap. but he seems to have some sort of religious objection to a scent button... it's the only reason I can think of for his absolute refusal to add one........
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First time flowering in my garden: Trillium grandiflorum Snowbunting
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Maggi,
Seeing your dog beating GIF, I sure hope PETA doesn't watch this forum :-X ;D ;D
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First time flowering in my garden: Trillium grandiflorum Snowbunting
Nice one. Mine is about to open up.
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Maggi,
Seeing your dog beating GIF, I sure hope PETA doesn't watch this forum :-X ;D ;D
It's flogging a dead horse, John.... either way, you're right, PETA won't like it!
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It's flogging a dead horse, John.... either way, you're right, PETA won't like it!
Aha! I have learned a new idiom, thank you!
Still feel sorry for the horse though, even if it is dead :P. On the other hand the meat would be quite tender after such beating ;D.
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Nice one flowering here now...T. kurabayashii x albidum...flowers fade to more pink during the end of flowering....//Jonny
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I love all those pretty Trilliums!
I got this one without a species name. Any suggestions?
It is badly tormented by wind, hail and early frost! The stem is about 30cm.
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Trillium chloropetalum album i guess.....
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Trillium albidum ??
is he perfumed ??
Roland
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Nice one flowering here now...T. kurabayashii x albidum...flowers fade to more pink during the end of flowering....//Jonny
Fantastic colour on this one Jonny.
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Thanks Webster.... another one...HUGE flowers...Trillium ovatum 'Edit'..compare it with the plant to the right..Trillium grandiflorum 'Tuckers form'......//Jonny
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Trillium grandiflora
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Trillium grandiflorum, having changed from white, through pink, to maroon.
Paddy
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Trillium grandiflorum, having changed from white, through pink, to maroon.
Paddy
Wonderful coloring on that one Paddy...one of the absolute best i'v seen...congratulation... :)....Jonny
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Brilliant colour, Paddy.
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Many thanks, Anne and Jonny.
Paddy
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Really amazing Paddy !
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Trillium chloropetalum album i guess.....
Trillium albidum ??
is he perfumed ??
Roland
I don't know which one to choose!
Roland, I can detect a faint but pleasant fragrance. Does that exclude chloropetalum?
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The diff. when it comes to Trillium seeds.....All from the same seed pod......
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Super selection of seed raised plants, Jonny - I hope this and other pictures here tempt more folks to try these plants from seed ;
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But sow it fresh as possible and keep moist at all times. You may wait, otherwise for up to 8 years or more, for germination. :o :o :o
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The diff. when it comes to Trillium seeds.....All from the same seed pod......
Yup no two are ever the same
Here from me an old plant of grandiflorum
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Regarding Trillium seeds and sowing...fresh seeds is a must...and by fresh it's a matter of weeks not months...i never save my potts more than max 3-4 years..if they don't germinate by that time they turn to compost here...and seed vitality are diff from spices to species...(or if it's my clones that are more or less good)...But this Trillium vaseyi hyb. is "Bulletproof" when it comes to give good seeds....i always finde hundreds of seedling around them every year...
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I don't know which one to choose!
Roland, I can detect a faint but pleasant fragrance. Does that exclude chloropetalum?
I don't have chloropetalum album in flower this year
but my Trillium albidum has a pleasant fragrance
Maybe one of the other members noticed if T. chloropetalum album is perfumed
Roland
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If no-one minds, I'll add some southern hemisphere Trilliums here? ???
A few years ago a friend gave me a polybox of Trillium albidum seedlings. Obviously there had been some hybridising going on her garden as there have been a selection of colours appear amongst the seedlings. I'd always wanted that pinky purple colour, so I was VERY pleased. %$%
Here's some of the results.
Click on the pics for a larger version!
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And Trillium albidum, at least that is what I've been told it is.
Also rivale in the bottom right.
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Great trilliums, Paul - and without the usual holes chomped in the leaves that we often suffer!
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Maggi,
I think we normally suffer that here too, but not at the moment for some reason. I am not complaining. :-X
Glad you're enjoying the pics.
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The seedling variation makes for a beautiful display en masse, Paul.
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Great trilliums, Paul - and without the usual holes chomped in the leaves that we often suffer!
??? Do you have a bug problem there Maggi ???
Nice seedlings by the way Paul!
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??? Do you have a bug problem there Maggi ???
You guessed that correctly, John. Every kind of chewing bug and mollusc that beset gardeners, I think!
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Well you are not alone there. I manage to keep the leaves intact for a few weeks after opening but then.........the critters come to me too >:(. So I have a short window for taking pictures with Trilliums intact and after that I just have to let it be :'(.
When I have an ant colony living near a Trillium bed, the leaves stay intact though. The ants are around and on the plants and keep the chomping kinds at bay. Little friends but annoying when I am pulling weeds or taking pictures on my knees and the ants decide to investigate me and enter through every hole in my clothes and start to bite.
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No ants in our garden, John. No idea why not.
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Huh? No ants? I thought these critters are everywhere. My garden is infested with them. Tiny black and orange ones.
Do you have some natural repellent in your garden?
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If there is some natural repellent for the ants here, then we are unaware of it. What sort of thing would be naturally repellent to them, I wonder?
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There are herbs known for keeping ants at bay. Mint, tansy and pennyroyal are used for this purpose. It is told that marigolds are effectieve too. It is said that ants also dislike bone meal. I haven't tried these myself hence the amount of investation of ants in my garden ;).
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A possible new home we are looking at has a half acre garden including clumps of Trillium chloropetalum, both red and white, each a metre wide! Several clumps of each. Smaller clumps of grandiflorum.
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Wow, Lesley. They're almost weeds for you guys. ;D
I still haven't managed to even grow grandiflorum succesfully as yet, let alone having a clump of it. ::)