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Bulbs => Crocus => Topic started by: alpinelover on January 02, 2012, 09:44:18 PM
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This Crocus sieberi 'Hubert Edelsten' is flowering now for one week.
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Beautiful! I am so envious. I had 'Hubert Edelsten' for many years but lost it last winter. It is one of my favourite crocuses.
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This Crocus sieberi 'Hubert Edelsten' is flowering now for one week.
Second picture down one of the plants looks to have a virus ???
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Looks like one of Janis "Carpathian Wonder"-Crocusses with complementary coloration! Funny!
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with some Crocus in the new year :D ???
Crocus antalyensis
biflorus ssp.artviniensis from NO-Turkey
chrysanthus from Edessa in N-Greece
cyprius
two forms Cr.suaveolens
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Wonderful to see the flowers in the early year.
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This Crocus sieberi 'Hubert Edelsten' is flowering now for one week.
Second picture down one of the plants looks to have a virus ???
A virus? Do you think?
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with some new crocuses in my garden central portugal
Crocus chrysanthus 'Sunspot photo 1 &2
Crocus chrysanthus Herald photo 3
in the garden photo 4
Crocus gargaricus herbertii photo 5,,,
just start to open but was cloudy day,,,so they were not fully opened :(
kasun
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This Crocus sieberi 'Hubert Edelsten' is flowering now for one week.
Second picture down one of the plants looks to have a virus ???
A virus? Do you think?
Don't think that it is virus. It is non-permanent genetic fault which happensd during organogenezis of flower parts and so will not be inherited and other flowers from same corm and next year flowers must look normally.
Janis
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This Crocus sieberi 'Hubert Edelsten' is flowering now for one week.
Second picture down one of the plants looks to have a virus ???
A virus? Do you think?
Don't think that it is virus. It is non-permanent genetic fault which happensd during organogenezis of flower parts and so will not be inherited and other flowers from same corm and next year flowers must look normally.
Janis
Thanks for that Janis,i am new to crocus virus i would have thrown that plant out for nothing.
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First Crocus biflorus - taurii I believe
Poor photo but the light levels were awful
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First Crocus biflorus - taurii I believe
Poor photo but the light levels were awful
Hope it's just the light levels but that flower looks a bit streaky to me :(
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First Crocus biflorus - taurii I believe
Poor photo but the light levels were awful
Hope it's just the light levels but that flower looks a bit streaky to me :(
Surely "It is non-permanent genetic fault which happensd during organogenezis of flower parts and so will not be inherited and other flowers from same corm and next year flowers must look normally." :) ;D :)
David S did not notice any potential virus.
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Hi!
Like this fights Crocus in Slovene Alps (mountain Raduha- April)!
Greeting! Zvone
My Japanese garden: http://zvonem.blogspot.si/
My Mountain photos: http://zvone.blogspot.si/
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First Crocus biflorus - taurii I believe
Poor photo but the light levels were awful
Hope it's just the light levels but that flower looks a bit streaky to me :(
Surely "It is non-permanent genetic fault which happensd during organogenezis of flower parts and so will not be inherited and other flowers from same corm and next year flowers must look normally." :) ;D :)
David S did not notice any potential virus.
Hmm - David is much more polite than I am ..... and hopefully Janis is right ;) here also. I am a bit paranoid about virus having suffered from the problems of monoculture here :P
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About biflorus taurii - I can't judge - it looks a little suspicious, but may be not, >:( :) so I kept silence. But -plant on Zvone's entry looks 100% virus infected. :'(
Janis
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Just curious, but what is the difference in symptoms between a non-permanent genetic fault and a virus in this case? ??? I am familiar with the obvious virus symptoms, but every time I notice a streak in one of my flowers, I get nervous... :-[
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Just curious, but what is the difference in symptoms between a non-permanent genetic fault and a virus in this case? ???
I am not entirely sure what one is to understand by "a non-permanent genetic fault". In view of Janis' phrasing I suspect one is to interpret it as some interference in gene expression during development. I would guess that this might give rise to symptoms which could be indistinguishable from those produced by a virus infection. I think the only way an amateur could make the distinction is by waiting to see whether the symptoms recur in the following year.
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First Crocus biflorus - taurii I believe
Poor photo but the light levels were awful
Hope it's just the light levels but that flower looks a bit streaky to me :(
Surely "It is non-permanent genetic fault which happensd during organogenezis of flower parts and so will not be inherited and other flowers from same corm and next year flowers must look normally." :) ;D :)
David S did not notice any potential virus.
Hmm - David is much more polite than I am ..... and hopefully Janis is right ;) here also. I am a bit paranoid about virus having suffered from the problems of monoculture here :P
Am I missing something,I cannot see a comment by David S,either polite or impolite?
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First Crocus biflorus - taurii I believe
Poor photo but the light levels were awful
Hope it's just the light levels but that flower looks a bit streaky to me :(
Surely "It is non-permanent genetic fault which happensd during organogenezis of flower parts and so will not be inherited and other flowers from same corm and next year flowers must look normally." :) ;D :)
David S did not notice any potential virus.
Hmm - David is much more polite than I am ..... and hopefully Janis is right ;) here also. I am a bit paranoid about virus having suffered from the problems of monoculture here :P
Am I missing something,I cannot see a comment by David S,either polite or impolite?
Tony who is David S?
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David S is David Stephens - Tony Goode took over from David in the Crocus Group.
I sent him a photo of the biflorus taurii - he made no comment about possible virus.
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When the different colour is caused by genetic problem it is expressed on one petal or some part of flower, the rest remains typical. When during organogenesis of flower at some point happens mutation of colour all further cells which develops from mutant cell keeps changed colour, but others multiplies with normal gene complex and normal colour. Such plants where some part is normal, other with mutation are named "chimer".
When mutation happens in first cell of replacement corm all further cells contains mutation genes and you will receive plant with some new features - such new forms/cultivars are named "sports". Such sport is, for example Crocus sieberi 'George' mutant of famous 'Hubert Edelsten' with larger, more rounded and with different blooming time. Another sport is cv. 'Violet Vanguard" which arise in stock of 'Vanguard' with slightly darker flowers. Mutations where color changes only on one or more petals (or its part only) usually are not inherited because they happened later when new flower is formed. Many hostas with variegated leaves are of chimeric origin.
Virus is infection which spreads in all parts of plant and so stripes appear on all petals, they are irregular.
Not easy for me explain such things in English, but I hope that you understand.
Janis
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Thank you Janis that does help.
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Janis - it appears that you are talking about somatic mutation?
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Janis - it appears that you are talking about somatic mutation?
Yes.
Janis
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Janis, thanks for the clarification! That makes sense, and I appreciate your taking the time to write out a great explanation!
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Here are a few in flower in the collection recently.
First of the spring flowerers was Crocus imperati, a pot of seedlings raised from the clone 'de Jager' which most likely crossed with an imperati suaveolens.
Crocus nevadensis - a form better in bud than open.
Crocus sieberi ?sublimis. labelled as this taxa but rather pale in flower.
Crocus sieberi sieberi - two views of the first one out.
Crocus pestalozzae - seasonal mutation with 8 petals. The leaves appear heavily virussed or perhaps the brown areas are a rust? Either way I'm keeping it with the others
.....Spot the (now ex) aphid in one of these pics :P
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I meant to post this link with the last lot of pics
http://www.west-crete.com/flowers/crocus_sieberi.htm
Some great habitat and close up shots of Crocus sieberi ssp sieberi in Crete
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Tony,
Many thanks for excellent link to Cretan Crocus sieberi, but there are a lot of other valuable information, too - car rent, hotels etc. I'm going there in March just to picture sieberi in its variability.
Regarding picture of pestalozzae - I can't see any symptom of virus on flower. Of course are viruses which expresses only on leaves, but if it is rust - don't worry - there are excellent chemicals against this problem which even cure off infection. Personally I'm using TILT - used against rust in grain crops (you can ask it to some farmer), only be carefull with dosing, not overdose. For liquid TILT dosage for ornamentals is 4 cubic cm on 10 liters of water. I had rust problem on Allium and during two seasons completely cleaned my stocks from this disease. Most important - to make first spray before symptoms appear and second some 3 weeks later. If symptoms are visible, it will stop spreading and in most cases corm will alive. Next season start spraying when leaves are some 3-5 cm long and repeat twice with 3-4 weeks interval and all will be OK. Now are several chemicals against wide spectrum of rusts, but I'm still using old TILT. Now every spring I'm still doing one spray to all bulbs when leaves of Alliums open. Rust can damage many bulbs I saw it in wild on Erythroniums, Fritillaria, juno irises etc. For vthis reason I'm making profilactic spray to all bulbs in greenhouses and outside, too.
Janis
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C. hartmannianus is starting to bloom,
Buds are as beautiful as the open flowers.
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A real Beauty, Oron! Thanks for showing them!
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Dear Croconuts,
Here in Belgium we had last month a lot of rain; many crocuses are now flowering, but due the dull weather it’s impossible to post some brightly pictures :(
In my greenhouse flowers now the first juno, a wonderful form of Iris persica (see section Iris). ;D
They expected today better weather, but unfortunately that’s not the case. The dull weather gives me the time to read through the new catalogue of Janis Ruksans that I received this morning.
And yes, one’s again a wonderful list of bulbs! Top of the bill is a new juno species, but there are many more new items of course, also crocuses
You can ask him copy by e-mail:
janis.bulb@hawk.lv
Hendrik
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Crocus minimus collected in Corsica starts flowering
Roland
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc520/bulborum/Crocus%20minimus/Crocusminimus_5427.jpg)
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Some crocus in bloom in the last couple of days, sorry some of the pics are not up to standard.
Crocus sieberi gothenburg form
Crocus sieberi george
Crocus sieberi Michael Hoogs memory
Crocus sieberi hatticus
Crocus sieberi
Crocus sieberi bowles white
Crocus flavus
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A few more.
Crocus vitellinus
Crocus ancyrensis
Crocus malyi
Crocus imperatii de Jager
Crocus reticulatus Gulec Bogazi
Crocus biflorus nubigena
Crocus biflorus nubigena
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Crikey Michael, what a range you have in flower already.
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I missed one
Crocus biflorus isauricus
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Great Crocus everyone - they are well ahead of ours as we have only one in flower at the moment.
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One in bloom at the moment - believe it to be Crocus danfordiae
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Great Crocus everyone - they are well ahead of ours as we have only one in flower at the moment.
... and that's one more than me.
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Three completely out of season a good three months early.
Crocus pelistericus
Crocus scardicus
Crocus x gothenburgensis , this is C. scardicus x C. pelistericus and apart from being slightly lighter than its seed parent is almost identical.
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Three completely out of season a good three months early.
Crocus pelistericus
Crocus scardicus
Crocus x gothenburgensis , this is C. scardicus x C. pelistericus and apart from being slightly lighter than its seed parent is almost identical.
mercy me... that IS early. :o
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Three completely out of season a good three months early.
Crocus pelistericus
Crocus scardicus
Crocus x gothenburgensis , this is C. scardicus x C. pelistericus and apart from being slightly lighter than its seed parent is almost identical.
Well Tony you must be in the banana belt up there. My pelistericus is showing at ground level and has been for some weeks now but there are no signs of its intention to do anything soon. That scardicus and gothenburgensis just beautiful 8) 8) 8)
Here I was surprised by these this morning
Crocus sieberi Bowles white starting to clump outside
C adanensis
C chrysanthus
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Ian
all the rest of the pelistericus and the hybrids are like yours just showing,these three seem to have gone it alone.
In the greenhouse I have lots of different species in bud but we have no sun and they will never open ,just elongate and fall over. It is a rotten season so far,yes warm but constant rain and no light.
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Three completely out of season a good three months early.
Crocus pelistericus
Crocus scardicus
Crocus x gothenburgensis , this is C. scardicus x C. pelistericus and apart from being slightly lighter than its seed parent is almost identical.
Well Tony you must be in the banana belt up there. My pelistericus is showing at ground level and has been for some weeks now but there are no signs of its intention to do anything soon. That scardicus and gothenburgensis just beautiful 8) 8) 8)
Here I was surprised by these this morning
Crocus sieberi Bowles white starting to clump outside
C adanensis
C chrysanthus
Ian, you and I must be in the same belt as each other ... I have the three you picture all in similar condition today!
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In quick steps approximates cold. Still very cloudy and around zero, but from Saturday will start dropping of temperature and at present are offered "only" minus 16 C for following week and further, too. Visiting greenhouse before covering, which will be done on Sunday I was shocked by many pots which started to show flowerbuds and few pots I brought in for pollination and for pictures (some blooms for the first time with me). So I can show you few.
I very waited blooming of C. adamii from Bulgaria to compare it with Caucasian forms and checking are they cross-able or not. Here you can see some variability of those crocuses.
Strange, but this year Crocus alatavicus comes up slower than korolkowii and michelsonii. Here first flower of alatavicus from Alma-Ata.
Janis
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One of most widely growing crocuses is Crocus chrysanthus which grow wild from Bulgaria through Greece to almost half of Turkey. I think that only problems to separate various stocks by visual features keeps this large complex as only one species as there are samples with chromosome numbers 2n from 8 to 20, in all possible variants. So I usually collect some sample from every locality and now counted that in total I have more than 60 samples from various localities. Here two samples from S Turkey - JJVV-003 from ~100 km NE from Antalya and JJVV-052 from W of Antalya. From last locality I collected only one corm as supposed that it must be biflorus atrospermus and was quite surprised seeing yellow bud which just now opened - 2 hours after bringing in my bathroom.
Janis
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Wonderful Crocus Janis !
Nothing quite so special here, but Crocus tommasinianus roseus is flowering 6 weeks earlier than last year.
We even had 10 minutes of sunshine today, enough to open the flowers... :) ... and to see that one had been chewed on... >:(
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A couple of intense yellow Crocuses today - C. cvijicii and C.gargaricus ssp. gargaricus.
Alex
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It looks many bulbs are flowering much earlier than the usual year in Europe :o Here at my place, Crocus michelsonii is blooming (only) a couple of weeks earlier than the last season ;)
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I find Crocus michelsonii very difficult, so I was delighted to find this one flower yesterday.
I will post another photo with the flower closed as I think it is even more beautiful
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Some Crocus in flower (or in bud) here now:
Crocus atticus 'M Hoog's Memory'
Crocus chrysanthus 'Uschak orange'
Crocus korolkowii 'Lucky Number'
and Crocus korolkowii
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Some in flower in the sunshine yesterday and today
Crocus sieberi from Crete
Crocus biflorus ssp from Turkey
Crocus biflorus ssp crewii two different plants
Crocus biflorus issauricus
Crocus biflorus ssp pulchricolor white
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A few more
Crocus biflorus ssp pulchricolor x chrysanthus natural hybrid
Crocus chrysanthus
Crocus cyprius
Crocus etruscus
Crocus sieberi mt parnassus
crocus vernus
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Tony
Considering your conditions you have done very well to keep them growing in character.
A fine selection
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Arthur thank you, we are now on our second day of sunshine after six continuous ones of rain and it has been so dark we have had the lights on in the house all day. I had thought they would be a right off. The gods smile on us all occasionally.
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Lovely stuff Tony, I could do with some of your sunshine.
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Wonderful Crocusses, Tony!
That hybrid between C. biflorus subsp pulchricolor and C. chrysanthus is very nice.
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Not expensive and certainly a good grower 'Firefly' is one of my favourites
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Wow !!! A brilliant series Tony !!! :o :o
The hybrid, the cyprius, the sieberi... all exceptional forms !
I had Crocus fleischeri from Gulek pass opening today :D
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After a cold night in Aberdeen, a sunny Saturday allowed my first laevigatus to open.
Graeme
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Beautiful Graeme ... my last laevigatus flowered a couple of weeks ago!
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Tony,
Thank you. I grow all of my crocuses outside and I hope to have a good "crocus season" with the mildish winter we are having here.
Graeme
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Here temperature started slightly to drop but below minus 10 now it is offered only for following weekend. Due snowing in greenhouses are very dark and I can make pictures only on my bathrooms windowsill. But after pictures and pollination I returned pots to greenhouse.
So few flowers in some following entries. Sorry for quality, but it is very dark weather.
Now Crocus adamii from Bulgaria (2 pict.) and from Georgia (must be regarded as type).
Janis
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On previous entry you can see variability od adamii, now variability of Crocus alatavicus. Lightest petal back coloring was shown earlier.
Janis
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From Crocus fibroannulatus (biflorus group) I have only few corms, so can't show great variabuility. It looks quite similar to artvinensis, but my stocks of both comes from Erich Pasche, so I suppose both are true to name.
Janis
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This one was collected near Malatya. Is it taurii or munzurense or something new? I don't know, but suppose that different.
Janis
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And as last for many days ahead - Crocus chrysanthus from W of Antalya.
Janis
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Wonderful Crocuses, Janis. Love the blue one from Malatya!
A couple of Crocuses in flower here now:
Crocus antalyensis 'Sky Blue'
and Crocus versicolor
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Wonderful Crocuses, Janis. Love the blue one from Malatya!
A couple of Crocuses in flower here now:
Crocus antalyensis 'Sky Blue'
and Crocus versicolor
Wim, Mistake with second picture. Seem the same antalyensis. Not versicolor in any case!
Janis
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Wonderful Crocuses, Janis. Love the blue one from Malatya!
A couple of Crocuses in flower here now:
Crocus antalyensis 'Sky Blue'
and Crocus versicolor
Wim, Mistake with second picture. Seem the same antalyensis. Not versicolor in any case!
Janis
Really???
I'm sure I haven't changed the labels and there are no other Crocusses growing near it. This is a picture from last year when the flower was completely open. Certainly not C. antalyensis 'Sky bleu'!
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Wonderful Crocuses, Janis. Love the blue one from Malatya!
A couple of Crocuses in flower here now:
Crocus antalyensis 'Sky Blue'
and Crocus versicolor
Really???
I'm sure I haven't changed the labels and there are no other Crocusses growing near it. This is a picture from last year when the flower was completely open. Certainly not C. antalyensis 'Sky bleu'!
This one is true. Look in throat! and compare with deep yellow of side view in previous entry. Mistake in picture naming.
Janis
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Wonderful Crocuses, Janis. Love the blue one from Malatya!
A couple of Crocuses in flower here now:
Crocus antalyensis 'Sky Blue'
and Crocus versicolor
Really???
I'm sure I haven't changed the labels and there are no other Crocusses growing near it. This is a picture from last year when the flower was completely open. Certainly not C. antalyensis 'Sky bleu'!
This one is true. Look in throat! and compare with deep yellow of side view in previous entry. Mistake in picture naming.
Janis
Just went out again, and it really is the same plant as last year:
179: picture taken at 12:30 this afternoon (that's the same as the first picture)
187: picture taken at 14:11 this afternoon
188: picture taken at 14:11 this afternoon
all three of the same plant!
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Sorry Wim, here it looks true. Simply deep yellow throat didn't associate in my memory with versicolor, but here spring is at least 3 monthes to wait.
Janis
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Sorry Wim, here it looks true. Simply deep yellow throat didn't associate in my memory with versicolor, but here spring is at least 3 monthes to wait.
Janis
That's okay. I think it's very nice and if I remember correctly, I think it's one I bought from your nursery!
I hope your spring comes soon too! But you have a lot of colour in your greenhouses already!
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Hi All
I am new in the forum and also have inherited my garden so don't really know the plants I have in it.
I have a number of types of crocuses naturalized in my lawn.
I have three clumps of this lovely crocus, which is always the first one up.
These pictures were taken today, can anyone tell me what type of crocus this is, or what else I need to look at to be able to identify it?
Many Thanks
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Welcome ScotsmaninKent ... or should we call you Simon?
I think you have a common form of Crocus sieberi. Cultivars 'Violet Queen' and 'Firefly' are the most likely. Both make good garden plants.
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Hi Tony
I have seen "Firefly" before and thought it might be that.
Simon is fine.
Can I ask some more "Newbie" questions?:
What other types of crocuses are good for naturalizing in the Garden and come up early?
Where is a good place to buy crocuses?
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In a winter like this almost all crocuses come up (too) early! In truth, you can try naturalising any of the cheaply available crocuses sold at garden centres. Too late this winter, but come September you will have plenty of choice. Crocus tommasinianus is perhaps the naturaliser par excellance. Many of the 'rarer' crocus will also do OK in grass which, especially if poor and thin, is great for naturalising bulbs.
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Sorry Wim, here it looks true. Simply deep yellow throat didn't associate in my memory with versicolor, but here spring is at least 3 monthes to wait.
Janis
Janis you're right, most/all versicolor in trade don't have a yellow throat, but on my journeys through Southern France I have found many Crocus versicolor with deep yellow throat!! Even one pure white with yellow throat which I would never assume to be versicolor if I found it in a garden. From the outside I would say it's possible, that this plant is versicolor - so Wim you should just have a look underground, what the corm is looking like.
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I'm not growing commercial versicolor. All my stock is grown from wild collected seeds (in 80-ies by Michael Hoog) and is very variable, but I just checked all my pictures and there are only few with light yellow throat. It is reason why I didn't recognise this specimen. It is only additional confirmation that identification of crocuses by pictures is extremely difficult and not far from impossible.
Janis
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Thomas, I'll have a look at the corm when the plant is dormant!
Janis, just checked my data and I bought this C. versicolor from you in 2010! Also, I'm sure it is the plant I received from you since all my plants are doubly labeled and there aren't any other Crocus growing in the vicinity! I think it looks nice with it's light yellow throat!
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Thomas, I'll have a look at the corm when the plant is dormant!
Janis, just checked my data and I bought this C. versicolor from you in 2010! Also, I'm sure it is the plant I received from you since all my plants are doubly labeled and there aren't any other Crocus growing in the vicinity! I think it looks nice with it's light yellow throat!
I slowly became too old.... :'(
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Thomas, I'll have a look at the corm when the plant is dormant!
Janis, just checked my data and I bought this C. versicolor from you in 2010! Also, I'm sure it is the plant I received from you since all my plants are doubly labeled and there aren't any other Crocus growing in the vicinity! I think it looks nice with it's light yellow throat!
I slowly became too old.... :'(
Janis, that was just a senior-moment, anyone older than 40 has a right to have those multiple times a year ;) (according to the very nice older people on this forum ;) ;) ;D)
And as long as you stay young of heart, everything's okay!
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Last weekend, I have this Crocus chrysanthus var. Fuscotinctus in flower.
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And also, a first flower of Crocus 'Goldilocks'
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fantastic croci images from all and so much ahead of mine... -7°C frost last night.
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Again many fine pictures here. Thanks to everybody.
Here in our greenhouse Crocus cyprius flowers .The flowers are nice,smal,delicat,perfumed ....
Some pictures....First picture is from previous year but the other ones are taken previous weekend.
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I am afraid about this Crocus alatavicus ....Is it attacked by a virus ?
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I am afraid about this Crocus alatavicus ....Is it attacked by a virus ?
No, It simply had problems with pushing through covering sheets. Sometimes such things happens.
Janis
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I am afraid about this Crocus alatavicus ....Is it attacked by a virus ?
No, It simply had problems with pushing through covering sheets. Sometimes such things happens.
Janis
That would explain the distortion on the flower, Janis.... but look at the streaky foliage...... :-\ :P
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I didn't enlarge picture. Yes, leaves are very suspicious, I would destroy this plant. Fortunally it isn't from me...
Janis
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That would explain the distortion on the flower, Janis.... but look at the streaky foliage...... :-\ :P
Sharp as ever Maggi , that's indeed what I mean .... I was suspicious about the foliage too
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I didn't enlarge picture. Yes, leaves are very suspicious, I would destroy this plant. Fortunally it isn't from me...
Janis
Thank you Janis , won't take the risk and destroy the plant . Yes I could confirm , I did not buy it from you !
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I apologise for the less than perfect photos but the light level was not good and I definitely did not want to use flash.
I have never seen a crocus with quite this intensely deep royal purple colour before. The nearest colour is that of Romulea requienii or perhaps Crocus pelistericus.
It is a Crocus biflorus from seed collected near Zanjan in Iran - only one corm :(
The third photo shows a Crocus oliveri purchased at the Cyclamen Conference in Birmingham
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Good grief Arthur, that colour is amazing. Like velvet... So pretty. 8)
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;D
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I have never seen a crocus with quite this intensely deep royal purple colour before. The nearest colour is that of Romulea requienii or perhaps Crocus pelistericus.
It is a Crocus biflorus from seed collected near Zanjan in Iran - only one corm :(
WOW, that's wonderful, Arthur!
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I apologise for the less than perfect photos but the light level was not good and I definitely did not want to use flash.
I have never seen a crocus with quite this intensely deep royal purple colour before. The nearest colour is that of Romulea requienii or perhaps Crocus pelistericus.
It is a Crocus biflorus from seed collected near Zanjan in Iran - only one corm :(
A truly amazing colour Arthur ! I hope the corm multiplies for you... imagine a potful of those !! :o :o
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It is a Crocus biflorus from seed collected near Zanjan in Iran - only one corm :(
Arthur, it is phantastic! I envy you! Did you collect seed by yourself?
Janis
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I suppose that this is adamii. Here mine from crocuses collected near Zanjan (WHIR-120) which I labeled as adamii. Picture is from previous spring. On the first - best form.
On second picture - variability in WHIR-120.
Janis
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Between my files I found few pictures of this crocus maid in nature by John Ingham. He went up to snow-line and there found the same crocus in flowers. I was at that time picturing Fritillarias at lower altitudes and by the way collected few corms of annulate crocus which finished blooming. Mine corms bloomed after two years. Those were shown on previous entry.
Janis
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It's been a very slow season for me but at last a few of the spring flowering sieberi are open after a spell on the kitchen window sill.
Crocus sieberi 'Ronald Ginns'
C. sieberi 'Firefly'
and a little sieberi that Tony Willis gave me in 2008 which, until this year, I have struggled with outdoors and it didn't flower. Now doing better under glass.
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Went to Cyprus in order to see two species in bloom. [C. hartmannianus and Hyacinthella millingenii]
I had to go twice to the site as first day was too dark.
C. hartmannianus is extremely rare!!! in the wild, there are only few hundred plants growing on the site.
[Please do not ask for the exact location, it is a secret i will take with me when i'll join the bulbs from the roots side..]
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Went to Cyprus in order to see two species in bloom. [C. hartmannianus and Hyacinthella millingenii]
I had to go twice to the site as first day was too dark.
C. hartmannianus is extremely rare!!! in the wild, there are only few hundred plants growing on the site.
[Please do not ask for the exact location, it is a secret i will take with me when i'll join the bulbs from the roots side..]
Oron, nice dark Crocus hartmannianus. :D
Like variable is this species in nature and have you seen also pure white flowers?
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Went to Cyprus in order to see two species in bloom. [C. hartmannianus and Hyacinthella millingenii]
I had to go twice to the site as first day was too dark.
C. hartmannianus is extremely rare!!! in the wild, there are only few hundred plants growing on the site.
[Please do not ask for the exact location, it is a secret i will take with me when i'll join the bulbs from the roots side..]
Wow... super photos ofthese beautiful plants... looks like the weather was perfect for photos on that day. 8)
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Went to Cyprus in order to see two species in bloom. [C. hartmannianus and Hyacinthella millingenii]
I had to go twice to the site as first day was too dark.
C. hartmannianus is extremely rare!!! in the wild, there are only few hundred plants growing on the site.
[Please do not ask for the exact location, it is a secret i will take with me when i'll join the bulbs from the roots side..]
Fantastic pictures, Oron. And plants! I think I know where it is but I will not go to Cyprus as I don't like driving "on wrong side of road" ;D
Janis
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The Crocus biflorus from Iran had opened sufficiently to see the anthers - they are black :)
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Another Iranian Crocus biflorus
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And for a change a Turkish biflorus - well the potential for a very deep blue flower
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Superb Pictures Oron! Thanks for sharing pics of this rare beauty!
[Please do not ask for the exact location, it is a secret i will take with me when i'll join the bulbs from the roots side..]
Well done! :)
A very generous friend gave me corms of C. korolkowii 'Albus' and John Grimshaws C. korolkowii 'Snow Leopard' last year - as usual the rarest plants seem to have the best taste and so the bud of 'Snow Leopard' ended in the stomach of a cutworm (and the cutworm ended in cutworms heaven before it could start to eat also the leaves). Knowing those two forms for many years it seems the label is much more common than the plant itself.
I am very happy to grow them and I hope it still will produce a second bud...
The beautiful Crocus korolkowii 'Albus' started to flower today.
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Great friend and a wonderful plant - first time I have seen it.
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The Crocus biflorus from Iran had opened sufficiently to see the anthers - they are black :)
Can you check its leaves? How many growes are on leaf underneath?
Janis
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Fantastic pictures, Oron. And plants! I think I know where it is but I will not go to Cyprus as I don't like driving "on wrong side of road" ;D
Janis
Janis,
you just need 3 glasses of wine before leaving the hotel and i guarantee you, you will drive on the left side...that's what i do and it works... ;)
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Oron, nice dark Crocus hartmannianus. :D
Like variable is this species in nature and have you seen also pure white flowers?
Hi dirk,
There isn't any or just a little variability between the flowers they really all appear very similar and no i haven't seen any white form.
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Oron, nice dark Crocus hartmannianus. :D
Like variable is this species in nature and have you seen also pure white flowers?
Hi dirk,
There isn't any or just a little variability between the flowers they really all appear very similar and no i haven't seen any white form.
Dear Oron,
many thanks for this information. I think, my Crocus hartmannianus with paler flowers is
from a other place in the southern part of this island.
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Great friend and a wonderful plant...
Thanks Arthur, I agree completly with you.
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I showed a pot of Crocus that I thought had potential - the first shot is a repeat of this.
I was right - I think it is beautiful and would like an identification please
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I showed a pot of Crocus that I thought had potential - the first shot is a repeat of this.
I was right - I think it is beautiful and would like an identifacation please
Arthur, looks like a Crocus biflorus ssp.? from Belpinar Pass in Turkey.
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The Crocus biflorus from Iran had opened sufficiently to see the anthers - they are black :)
Arthur
lovely plant,I should get it of for analysis, it is bound to be a new species and you can get your name in lights forever!
On a more serious note if I have only one I pull the anthers of and put them in the fridge and then try self pollination daily until they have completely withered. I do sometimes get a few seeds.
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I showed a pot of Crocus that I thought had potential - the first shot is a repeat of this.
I was right - I think it is beautiful and would like an identifacation please
Arthur, looks like a Crocus biflorus ssp.? from Belpinar Pass in Turkey.
Very beautiful, Arthur. John Lonsdale seems to grow a few C. biflorus ssp. .... from Belpinar Pass too: http://www.edgewoodgardens.net/plants_album/the%20plants%20-%20%20complete%20collection/Iridaceae/Crocus/Subgen%20Nudiscapus%20Ser%20Biflori/C.%20biflorus/index.html
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The Crocus biflorus from Iran had opened sufficiently to see the anthers - they are black :)
Arthur
lovely plant,I should get it of for analysis, it is bound to be a new species and you can get your name in lights forever!
Not a new species, but a hybrid between biflorus and chrysanthus.
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We had some sun today !
Enough to make Crocus sieberii "Michael Hoog's Memory" open up
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Crocus vernus "Krasne Polje" is a very dark beauty from the Balkans... in reality it's even darker than the pictures show.
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Wonderful, Luc! Nice to see them open now, after seeing them in bud in real live earlier this week!
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Crackers Luc and brilliant pictures too
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Luc, nice to see so perfect flower of my 'M. Hoog's Memory'. All my crocuses now are under 5 cm of glasswool sheets trying to pass following week with temperatures between 20 and 30 C (minuses of course).
Janis
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A few from the last week here. Many crocus have come into flower in the mild weather but now we may have some weeks of very cold weather. It should mean a better display later but with so many now well advanced ..... :-\
Crocus gargaricus ssp gargaricus
Crocus biflorus ssop isauricus ? Home raised seedlings possibly of hybrid origin
Crocus sieberi Hubert Edelsten
Three shots of a sumptuous form of Crocus sieberi ssp sieberi.
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Ooooh.... crocus pictures.... bright happy open flowers in sunshine... what could be nicer? A real winter tonic, Tony, thanks!
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Ooooh.... crocus pictures.... bright happy open flowers in sunshine... what could be nicer? A real winter tonic, Tony, thanks!
Can you tell it's been a quiet night at work tonight? I ought to have been rehearsing my lecture for the HPS tomorrow afternoon!
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Nothing is more beautifully than wild sieberi. Mid March will go to Crete to watch their variability in nature.
Janis
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Though it is the coldest period of this winter at my place, today is sunny and temperature is 1.0 - 11.5ºC. A potted Crocus chrysanthus 'Sunspot' is blooming under direct sunshine without any protections :)
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Mine is nowhere near blooming. A very nice potful.
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Very nice, YT!
That's a wonderful cultivar, isn't it!
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Thank you, Art :)
Wim, yes! I think this glossy black stigma is a precious and unique character ;)
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Wim, yes! I think this glossy black stigma is a precious and unique character ;)
Mine, like Arthur's isn't flowering yet, either...so it's nice to be able to enjoy yours, YT!
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Absolutely gorgeous YT ! 8)
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Though it is the coldest period of this winter at my place, today is sunny and temperature is 1.0 - 11.5ºC. A potted Crocus chrysanthus 'Sunspot' is blooming under direct sunshine without any protections :)
Great Crocus YT ! Have to put it on my wishlist ;D
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Crocus imperati is always bloom in mid January outodoor, here in Southern Italy
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..........and I thought my C.tommasinianus were early !!!
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Luc and Kris, thank you!