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Title: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: Emilio Monedero on December 13, 2010, 06:26:50 PM
Hello

I am very glad to find this forum. I enjoyed viewing your photos and comments. I am a beginner and I want that you show some of my contribution:

Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat in 5 April 2009. (Valencia / Spain)

(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8052/img07822.th.jpg) (http://img140.imageshack.us/i/img07822.jpg/)

Narcissus assoanus buds (13-12-2010) Origin: (Valencia / Spain)

(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/4245/img1379l.th.jpg) (http://img121.imageshack.us/i/img1379l.jpg/)

(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/5442/img1377l.th.jpg) (http://img811.imageshack.us/i/img1377l.jpg/)

Narcissus cantabricus ssp. foliosus (13-12-2010)

(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5340/img1380j.th.jpg) (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/img1380j.jpg/)

(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2005/img1375hu.th.jpg) (http://img522.imageshack.us/i/img1375hu.jpg/)

(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5974/img1376x.th.jpg) (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/img1376x.jpg/)

Narcissus dubius (13-12-2010). Origin: ( Valencia / Spain)

(http://img574.imageshack.us/img574/4005/img1387b.th.jpg) (http://img574.imageshack.us/i/img1387b.jpg/)

Narcissus bulbocodium "Golden Bells"
(13-12-2010)

(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/434/img1389m.th.jpg) (http://img149.imageshack.us/i/img1389m.jpg/)

Tulipa sylvestris ssp. australis (buds) from Cuenca (Spain) (13-12-2010)

(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1431/img1385g.th.jpg) (http://img715.imageshack.us/i/img1385g.jpg/)

I hope blooms very soon...
 ;D
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: Emilio Monedero on December 13, 2010, 06:53:08 PM
More pics in habitat (Narcissus assoanus; 5 April 2009; Valencia/Spain). Very fragant flowers!!!:

Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: mark smyth on December 13, 2010, 07:06:31 PM
Beautiful Narcissus Kahlid. Welcome to the forum!

Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: Emilio Monedero on December 13, 2010, 07:18:32 PM
Oooops! Mark, thank you. I've done smaller photos.
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: mark smyth on December 13, 2010, 07:21:24 PM
When I looked back again and saw small photos I thought it was my connection that was slow
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: David Nicholson on December 13, 2010, 07:42:51 PM
Welcome Khalid, lovely pictures.
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: Graham Catlow on December 13, 2010, 08:32:24 PM
Welcome Khalid,
I've just had a quick look through your sempervivum blog. It's very interesting. I will go back for a longer browse when I have more time.
Hope you post some semps in the Sempervivum thread here.
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: Maggi Young on December 13, 2010, 09:06:51 PM
Greetings Khalid, it is good to have you join us here.
What wonderful flowers you show us..... perfect to see such fine plants in nature as those Narcisssus assoanus... magnificent plants.
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: Gerry Webster on December 13, 2010, 09:25:18 PM
Welcome Khalid & many thanks for the beautiful photos. Could this  be N. assoanus var. praelongus?
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: Emilio Monedero on December 13, 2010, 10:58:02 PM
Welcome Khalid & many thanks for the beautiful photos. Could this  be N. assoanus var. praelongus?

Hello

Thanks to all!!!

GERRY

Your question is difficult for me. I have no idea. Do you know the Spanish distribution area for praelongus?
Thank you.
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: Emilio Monedero on December 13, 2010, 11:26:07 PM
Hello Maggi

I hope (when I have more time) participate in the Sempervivum forum. It's very interesting!!!
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: Rafa on December 13, 2010, 11:48:00 PM
Gerry, this species is no longer valid. In fact Flora Iberica (from Real Jardín Botánico de Madrid) is making a taxonomical revison from this genus and I amfraid most of the members who loves Narcissus genus will be in panic when you will see ALL descriptions of N. fernandesii/N.assoanus in just one species Narcissus assoanus Dufour ex Schult. & Schult. or ALL bulbocodium relatives in N. bulbocodium L.

Definitively I don't support this classification....
http://www.floraiberica.es/floraiberica/texto/imprenta/tomoXX/20_184_05_Narcissus.pdf
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: TheOnionMan on December 13, 2010, 11:58:54 PM
Hello Khalid, beautiful clumps of N. assoanus!

I see from your signature block that you're also a fan of Sempervivum and Jovibarba, be sure to check out the Semp & Jov thread on SRGC.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5315.0

McMark
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: annew on December 14, 2010, 11:09:06 AM
Wonderful Narcissus, Khalid - so many flowers!
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: Paul T on December 14, 2010, 12:58:06 PM
Great pics Khalid.  Thanks for showing us.

Is there a lot of variability of assoanus in the wild?  Those in your pics have a much larger cup than mine do and I'm interested just how much difference there are in localities in the wild?  In the last pic, are both the clumps assoanus, and is the size difference really as pronounced as it looks in the picture? 

Thanks again for the pics.  :)
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: ashley on December 14, 2010, 02:16:19 PM
... Flora Iberica (from Real Jardín Botánico de Madrid) is making a taxonomical revison ... Definitively I don't support this classification ...
http://www.floraiberica.es/floraiberica/texto/imprenta/tomoXX/20_184_05_Narcissus.pdf

Very interesting Rafa; thank you for this.
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: Emilio Monedero on December 14, 2010, 03:15:28 PM
Great pics Khalid.  Thanks for showing us.

Is there a lot of variability of assoanus in the wild?  Those in your pics have a much larger cup than mine do and I'm interested just how much difference there are in localities in the wild?  In the last pic, are both the clumps assoanus, and is the size difference really as pronounced as it looks in the picture? 

Thanks again for the pics.  :)

Hello Paul

Thanks for your comments. Narcissus assoanus is extremely variable in nature. The pics shows real aspects.

Best regards.
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: Gerry Webster on December 14, 2010, 04:33:45 PM
Khalid

The information I have on the distribution of N. assoanus var. praelongus is:  southern Spain, Serrania de Ronda & “around Cabra.”

Rafa

Many thanks for the information. Yet another upheaval in Narcissus taxonomy!
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: Rafa on December 14, 2010, 07:54:02 PM
I would like to request a favor to all of you, please don't share in open forum localities or any information about places, only general distribution as Gerry did. We never know who are reading in internet our coments....
Recently we have notice extractions of bulbs from the most endangered species in Spain.

thank you
Title: Re: Narcissus assoanus and Iris lutescens in habitat (Spain)
Post by: Mavers on March 03, 2011, 10:32:26 AM
Wonderful to see narcissus in their natural environment Khalid thanks for posting.

Mike
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