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SRGC Shows and Events => SRGC Shows Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Maggi Young on May 07, 2010, 06:58:00 PM
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ABERDEEN SHOW
15th May 11.30 am to 4.00 pm
SHOW SECRETARIES: Ian and Margaret Young
63 Craigton Road, Aberdeen, AB15 7UL
VENUE: Ruthrieston West Church Hall, 199 Broomhill Rd, Aberdeen
AB10 7LN
LOCATION: Turn west off Aberdeen ring road at 2nd roundabout north of the
River Dee.
Please note corrected Postcode for Show venue is ABN10 7LN. :)
Note to all Aberdeen Members: Your donations of Home Baking for the Tea Room of the Show will be most gratefully received. You may either bring your baking along to the Hall on Friday evening between 6pm and 8pm or on Saturday morning, as early as possible. :)
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Samples to be taken to Craigton Road beforehand for quality control?
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Samples to be taken to Craigton Road beforehand for quality control?
No need, David, the QA manager works overtime at the show to ensure continued excellence! ;D ;)
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Show goers have obviously come to expect a very high standard of local baking at these events. I hope though, the competition to perform best in that area doesn't approach the crazy determination of each succeeding Olympic Games city to outdo the previous one. Look where paying for their effort has got Greece!
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Look where paying for their effort has got Greece!
I'm pessimistic enough to fear that the 2012 Olympics will bankrupt us in the UK and I thought that before the Grecian crisis! Ludicrous to spent such amounts in the current situation.... maybe in ANY situation :-X
I'm discovering that some of the regular bakers for Aberdeen are off on their hols.....we may yet be reduced to a bowl of soup and a plain shop-bought biscuit :o :-\
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Well that should concentrate the visitors' minds wonderfully, on the PLANTS Maggi. If I could get to ANY of the alpine shows tea and a bikkie would be enough. Well, maybe just ONE cupcake. :D
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How about an extension to the show schedule:
Section VI; Class 100 One cake made by the exhibitor ( rule 14, revised, to apply)
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An excellent suggestion, David ..... I would think that in this class more than one entry per exhibitor might be permitted. It will need specialised judging, of course.... but I'm amply qualified for that ;D ;)
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Might be more judges than entrants!
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I think this would be one of those occasions when an overseas judge could be brought in, and I don't mean Helen or Rodger! (Or anyone Australian either, even though Otto was a pastry chef!)
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I think that the qualifications for both you and I to be Premier Judges for this event are more than self-evident by our photos, Lesley..... is there time for you to get here? Bear in mind the Icelandic Volcano is spreading dust clouds far and wide. :-\
Fortunately the Two Lucs have given up on the idea of flying over and are coming by car so they will hopefully have no travel problems. :)
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No dust clouds down this way but no, dammit, I have to work here next Saturday, and work even harder than usual because my two staff have left are are being replaced with only one. So I wish you well of the judging Maggi. Don't forget the Eno's though. :D
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If Lesley was able to get away from work there would still be time for her to get here. I read that a Ross County fan now living in Australia is flying back to Glasgow on Thursday for Saturdays cup final :D Ash cloud permitting, of course.
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Fortunately the Two Lucs have given up on the idea of flying over and are coming by car so they will hopefully have no travel problems. :)
Wasn't that a moment of inspiration Maggi ;D... let's hope our Ferry from Zeebrugge to Hull doesn't hit an iceberg... ??? ::)
I think this would be one of those occasions when an overseas judge could be brought in, and I don't mean Helen or Rodger! (Or anyone Australian either, even though Otto was a pastry chef!)
Obviously, we will be volunteering for that difficult task !! ;D ::) :P
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Well let's see. I start work at 6am Saturday which would be 8pm Friday with you, allowing for your summer time. Then I'm finished by 2pm or 4am Saturday in the UK, so allowing for a 23 hr flight, no, I don't think I can make it.
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Excuses Lesley. ;D
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Facebook and Twitter are alien to me, so here is not so much a tweet as a squawk from Aberdeen..........
This stage of the proceedings before a show are always the most stressful for the Show Secretaries....
It's raining and thereI have so far received fewer entries than I would like for the show tomorrow.......AARRGH!!
Off to breathe into a paper bag..... hope last minute arrivals will cheer me up!
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Fingers crossed for a rush of last minute entries for you Maggie!
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"We're on our Way",
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Just done the tot-up of the entries so far to give Ian the numbers of plants for the layout of the tables.... actually, doesn't look too bad at all... about the same as last year, I reckon, distributed through different classes, as might be expected after the odd season!
So, I was getting anxious for nothing... as usual... the SHOW WILL BE FAB!! ;D
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Off now to start the set up of the show. Will be offline till around 2130pm this evening.... play nicely, now, Children! ;D ;) :) ;D
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Okay, what shall we get up to??? (http://yoursmiles.org/hsmile/mouse/h0908.gif)
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There's always a ringleader in the naughty stakes, isn't there?
Are you a former pupil of St Trinian's, Gail? :D ( I am myself, as you might imagine! ::))
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I wonder who Flash Harry is? :o
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There's always a ringleader in the naughty stakes, isn't there?
Are you a former pupil of St Trinian's, Gail? :D ( I am myself, as you might imagine! ::))
If only :) - I went to the girl's school in Sutton Coldfield which was very staid!
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The standard of plants at the Aberdeen Show was very high and more Certificates of Merit were awarded this year than last. I managed to escape the kitchen for a short while and took a few photos of plants and people to give a flavour of the event. Thanks to everyone concerned who made the show a success (especially the “kitchen crew “ who put up with my teasing)
Graeme Strachan
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Graeme, thanks so much for the photos you took of the Aberdeen Show to give us a flavour of the occasion - familiar faces and some great plants - would love to know more about photo two ::)
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Nice to see Sebastian. 8)
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Robin,
I can't help out too much with my second photo except to say that the Certificate of Merit was awarded to Nick Boss for his silene acaulis. A blown up photo of the label at the top of the photo is below.
Graeme
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Robin,
A bit more info regarding the 2nd photo after blowing it up :-
Top left........... Antennaria dioica exhibited by Helen Greenwood
Bottom left....... Gypsophila aretioides Caucasica
Bottom center... Not sure
Bottom right...... Androsace Hirtella
Graeme
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Very kind of you, thanks for all the info Graeme :) I'm growing Silene acaulis from wild seed - a few years before it will look anything like Nick's wonderful specimen I think ::)
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Right, I've got Ian's photos from the show resized so here we go..... most of the pix of the show hall were taken during judging so we get a clear view of the benches....
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The day went very well, thanks to the terrific team of helpers that make it all happen.... from the collecting of the tables , delivering them to the hall, all the set-up procedures, the club plant stall,the large amount of kitchen work, stewarding, door welcome gang..... there are so many tasks to be accomplished to make everything ready for the exhibitors and make the day a pleasure for them and all the visitors.... and with a bit of luck all the helpers enjoy themselves as well! Then, of course, there is the whole kit and caboodle to be dismantled and the hall restored to its previous layout...... as the plants are packed up and the exhibitors set off for home.
Judges at Aberdeen show this year were: Carole Bainbridge, Elspeth Mackintosh, Ian Christie, Fred Hunt, Sandy Leven,and Glassford Sprunt.
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I hope the tea got a PC. 8)
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Cakes did, but tea was down-pointed for polystyrene cups! :-X
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3 native to Scotland from Stan da Prato: dwarf Scots pine Pinus sylvestris; Salix x boydii; Potentilla neumanniana
Allium akaka
Androscae _studiosorum - smaller plant
Androsace_studiosorum_Doksa... from Cyril, it won a Certificate of Mertit.
Cyril's plant Andro_studiosorum_Doksa again
Anemone trullifolia
anemones
Angie's Primula and Judges' tea
Angie_Primula maximowiczii
forumist Alan Gardner spots Angie's plants
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The Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh had a super display. They were not able to show at Glasgow because the flowering period of their plants was out of kilter but happily there were plenty in good order to make the 130 mile journey up to Aberdeen.
RBGE1
RBGE _ comosum
RBGE Arisaema1.
RBGE arisaema 2
RBGE Cyp 1
RBGE Hyacinthoides vicenta : this was a real cutie that I would love to grow.
RBGE iris1
RBGE iris 2
RBGE overview
The plants, tended by Elspeth Mackintosh and brought up by her and John Mitchell of RBGE , helped by Struan Harley, were terrific and impressed the judges to the extent of a Certificate of Merit for Lewisia cotyledon var howelli and a Gold Medal for the whole dispaly, but the icing on the cake was a Professional Medal for a truly glorious plant of Lewisia cotyledon var cotyledon.
The howelli was to the left of the big lewisias in the centre of the display, the Professional Medal went to the huge plant in the very middle!
It's the large one in this last shot with the howelli to its left....
RBGE fab lewisias.jpg
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My internet connection keeps dropping off so if I suddenly stop posting, you'll understand why..... :P
more RBGE plants, with a very happy Elspeth..... 8)
RBGE Polygonatum odoratum
RBGE Tulbaghia leucantha
RBGE Elspeth with Gold display
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back to the rest of the show......
This shows where our Judges got their "label" from...
Jim and Agnes Sutherland of Ardfearn at their stall.
John Owen from Askival in Fort Augustus was the other nurseryman attending, but Ian didn't get a photo of John.... you'll see some of his plants on the bench, though!
Loiseleuria procumbens from John Owen in Section II
Some "erics" .....ericaceaous plants...
Askival Snowbird; Leiophyllum buxifolium nanum; Menziesia; Cassiope lycopodioides
Cassiope 'Askival Snowbird'
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Anne Chambers with the magnificant Arisaema griffithii (other half of the Chambers combo, husband Viv, was not at the show).... in the background to the photo, there is, to the left, Richard Barr, Bob Maxwell and Mike Hopkins, while, midright, is Fraser Beaton, the leader of the local plant stall Team.
Arisaema griffithii from Anne and Viv Chambers 1
aris griff2
aris griff3 ... this arisaema was awarded a certificate of merit.
Anne and her Gentiana acaulis....this was also awarded a certificate of merit.
Arisaema triphyllum; from Dave Aitken , if I recall correctly.
Cypripedium 'Sebastian' ;this gained a certificatew of merit for Cyril Lafong.
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Will continue tomorrow , when I hope the internet connection will be less argumentative :-X
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The atmosphere of the hall really comes through in the photographs Maggi, thanks to you and Ian for putting them together to show us. It's really good to have the general shots first which set the scene and show the hardworking Members in action who make the whole thing such a joy to see.
The RBGE entry is just outstanding - and I have to say once more how much I like the backdrop :) - what a lot of work and dedicated professional care to bring so many different of plants in peak condition to the show and home again. Many congratulations to everyone involved, especially Elspeth, no wonder she is smiling with hands full of awards.
Really good to see some of the individual plants associated with growers and congratulations to Angie on a truly lovely Primula maximowizii
Thought this was a great idea:
3 native to Scotland from Stan da Prato: dwarf Scots pine Pinus sylvestris; Salix x boydii; Potentilla neumanniana
Particularly interested in ericaceaous platns as i'm branching out in this direction - hoping to see miniature Rhodos:
some "erics" .....ericaceaous plants...
Askival Snowbird; Leiophyllum buxifolium nanum; Menziesia; Cassiope lycopodioides
Congratulations to Anne Chambers for her choice Arisaema griffithii & Gentiana acaulis, awarded Certificates of Merit
Also to Cyril for his Androsace_studiosorum_Doksa... which won a Certificate of Merit.
Allium akaka & the Anemones also caught my eye but I looking forward to seeing more wonderful things when you have time and hoping you have good internet connection :P
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and some more......
Carol Marriott, Honorary President ( or Hon Prezz!) Bette Ivey ,Elspeth Mackintosh, with her back to the camera and SRGC Treasurer ,Ann the Christie Kind.
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BIG Tiarella cordifolia 'Cygnet' from Mike Dale .... this was a gorgeous plant, just beautiful. it was awarded a certificate of merit.
tiarellas: 'Cygnet' and 'Iron Butterfly'
trillium rugellii - Graham Catlow in Section II
trilliums : note the large pan of the double grandiflora..... ;)
trillium 1_ T. flexipes hybrid shown by Ian Christie
trills and Uvularia.jpg
tall two pan from Graham Catlow.jpg
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The largest pan of Trillium grandiflorum flore pleno was grown by Anne and Viv Chambers and was their third plant to win a certificate of merit at the show!
Here is Anne with the monster plant....
Now, you must be wondering which plant won the premier award for the best plant in the show? Did the Glenrothes Greenfinger triumph again?
well, no, Cyril didn't get a medal.... Fred Hunt did, with a lovely pan of Lewisia 'George Henley'... here's the plant, but you'll have to wait for Sandy's show report onther main site to see Fred with 'George Henley'!
Lewisia 'George Henley' is a super plant, great colour but flowers of a neat size and habit, lacking in the rather garish aspect of some larger lewisia types.
Fred was delighted with his win.... he had only had a couple of plants to bring to the show so it was especially nice to strike gold!
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Now. let's see if I can get some more photos loaded....
Centaurea lagascana
some colourful young sempervivum for sale
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cushion plants.jpg
Cyril's Iris with Richard Barr in background
Daphne calcicola close up
Daphne calcicola
David Shaw, in the far left, with the Two Lucs, my neighbours Linda and Mike, and Roma in the foreground.
early sun on the bench
Facing is local member Carol Marriott_ cheery in red jacket is Hon Prezz_Bette Ivey talking to Elspeth Mackintosh_further away_Ann_the Christie kind is nearly hidden by greenery
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and....
Esslemont Quaich winner: Cyril Lafongs three pans new rare or difficult. Two Daphnes and the penstemon seen next.....
Esslemont class Penstemon uintahensis
foliage .... Helichrysum and Cyclamen hederifolium
Frit. pontica from Bob Maxwell
Frit. pontica_ closeup
gentiana acaulis- the certificate plant
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Glenn Gordon's success story Trillium: Glenn is a longtime local member who had never showed before... he enters his first plant ( only plant this year--next year there will be more!! ;)) at the show and wins the best first -time plant and also the Best plant in SectionII ! His smile was VERY large!
Globularia cordifolia_hort_variety
LARGE trillium etc.
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lewisias 1
Lewisia red cotyledon
Lewisia orange cotyledon
Leucocoryne vitata? and Allium akaka
Lewisia Ashwood hybrid
Leucocoryne again... it was grown by Roma from Watson seed
lewisias 2
Lloydia close up
Llyodia KGB770 forrestii query ? from John Owen
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Menziesia close up .... grown by Stan da Prato
Maggi, Carol Shaw and John Mitchell
ghostly pteridophyllum and globularia
Narcissus 'Baby Moon' from Angie
Paris quadrifolia.... lovely pot full
pleione 1
Pleione grandiflora from Graham Catlow
Potentilla neumanniana from Stan
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six pan entry from another local, Nick Boss .....
From the rear..... Androsace Draba
Androsace aff muscoidea Sebaea thomasii
Saxifraga stolitskae Androsace robusta var gracilis a beautiful entry, awarded second place behind Cyril's set.
Primula ellisae_Carole and Ian Bainbridge.. this was awarded best primula.
Primula jack in the green from local member and show helper Joan Rowe
Primulas in Section II
Pteridophyllum racemosum... not sure who grew this - I think it was John Lupton.
ranunculaceae ex anemone and pulsatilla
Ranunc parnassifolius cute
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Viola riviniana .... from Graham C.?
two pans_ native to the Americas
tulips 1
Tropaeoleum three pan from local stalwart steward and Weather Reporter, John Lupton
Trop_azureum_John Lupton
Trop_ brachyceras
three of Roma's cyclamen: Roma was working on the prize for how many Cyclamen can I enter in one show .... she did rather well.... there were quite a few of them, cleverly dotted about the classes! ;D :)
sunshine yellow daisy
some erics
section II silver foliage.... Helichrysum 'County Park Silver' from Dave Aitken and a Celmisia incanafrom Lois Thompson
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Sorry about some repeats.... getting lost.....
Cyril Lafong won both the small size ( less than 17.5cm pot) and the Open size six pan classes ..... that's 12 great plants needed for only two red "First" labels!
Small six pan: Cypripedium 'Gisela (pink)
Daphne aurantiaca Lewisia cotyledon Androsace hirtella
Androsace cylindrica Val d'Ossue Dionysia involucrata
Class 1 Six pan:
Dactylorrhiza ( yellow, I forgot the name!)
Lewisia cotyledon Haberlea 'Connie Davidson' Dodecatheon pulchellum
Daphne petraea Clone F Androsace cylindrica
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getting through them now....
Stan da Prato won the Simpson Salver for the Best Rhododendron in the Show with this pretty R. 'Ermine'
Some how did not get pixs of the Two Lucs and their most charming wives, Rita and Marijke at the show but here are the Lucs, cap tured at supper, later.....
luc Gilgemyn has just noticed that the flowers in the corner are fake and looks shocked at this discovery.... either that, or Jean Wyllie said something outrageous (again!! ;D )
Luc Scheldeman , (otherwise known here as Luc the Second, like some ancient King .... though he was keen to point out how youthful the Lucs are compared to some of us!! :P) has a cheery glint in his eye, it seems he was having a good time... we certainly hope that was the case!!
At the show we were delighted to have a visit from our oldest... most senior... local member.... and perhaps the most senior SRGC member worldwide.... Margaret Harper, who is one hundred and one years old and still a keen SRGC Member and devoted to her garden. I believe that in the twelve months or so,Margaret has given up the several overseas trips she used to make each year.... tells me she is slowing down a bit!!
You'll see in the photo that she is giving Ian a run for his money!
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Great that the show was such an obvious success; congratulations to all.
What magnificent plants 8)
Thank you kind reporters for sharing them with us, and for putting faces to names.
As for those sales tables :o
Really just as well I stayed away :-X ;) ;D
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What a wonderful show, so many gorgeous and interesting plants, the standard is so high and it looks as if everyone had a great time. Really eye-catching:
Esslemont class Penstemon uintahensis
Leucocoryne
Primula ellisae
Tiarella cordifolia 'Cygnet'
Daphne calcicola
How wonderful to see Margaret Harper an active SRGC Member at 101 - now there is something to aspire to :)
Thanks Maggi for such great photos and comments from the Aberdeen Show
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I do think that everyone had a good time at the show.... the plants were certainly beautiful and the company very pleasant.....
it's fun to share it with you all here.
a last shot of the visitors enjoying the display....
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Another comprehensive set of photos from a wonderful show Maggi. Thanks. I'm glad I made the effort.
The last show of the season and a very enjoyable one. I have to say I have been surprised but very pleased with my successes.
Had it not been for your comment in the forum Maggi about my pot of Pleione forestii (It looks like that potful will be looking good for the Edinburgh Show next week, Huh??!!) I may never have entered this year.
I would just like to thank the show secretaries who made my first season as easy as it was. Especially Ian Bainbridge at my first show in Edinburgh, who was so welcoming to someone whom he had never seen before. It has been a pleasure meeting everyone and relaxing more as each show passed.
Thanks to the other members and exhibitors who took the time to chat. What a friendly bunch you are. :)
I'm hooked and will have to see what next year brings.
And to those forum members that are still thinking about entering a show, take the plunge like I did. You may just find it a rewarding and enjoyable day out. ;D
Graham
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Must have been a hell of a job for the judges with so many excellent plants at the Show.
Ptreridophyllum, Primula ellisiae, Arisaema griffithii and Globularia are a few of the highlights I remember after scrolling through all the pictures.
And reading the comments is a pleasure! Thank you both for showing, Graeme and Maggi.
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A fabulous effort from EVERYONE! A million thanks for showing so many stunning plants and putting names to people too, whom otherwise we elsewhere would never know.
A quick note about Lewisia 'George Henley' if anyone is thinking of buying a plant. I brought this home with me from the UK (Ingwersen's I think) in 1981. I still have the original plant which has been shifted to different gardens 4 times and never turned a hair. It is sterile but I have done many cuttings which are easy to root and grow on. The flowers have that beautiful silky look somewhat reminiscent of the related Calandrinias. GH is a plant I would recommend to anyone at all.
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What a lovely show. Thanks for your efforts getting them up for us to see. I'm so pleased Mike won with his lovely tiarella. I saw it in their greenhouse last week, it was just stunning. Loved that centaurea too. What a cracking plant.
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Maggi nice to see the the pictures of the show. I forgot my camera but I knew you would have some lovely pictures on the forum to show my friends.
It was lovely to meet the two Lucs they are both so jolly. I hope they have enjoyed the rest of there trip.
Thanks Maggi for all the effort you and Ian put into the show. I still am amazed at how everything falls onto place on the day and even more amazing is how so many people can turn up with some amazing plants - l find it so hard to get anything to flower for the day- still l will keep trying.
Graeme where is the picture of you with your lovely apron ;D ;D ;D
Angie :)
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luc Gilgemyn has just noticed that the flowers in the corner are fake and looks shocked at this discovery.... either that, or Jean Wyllie said something outrageous (again!! ;D )
Luc Scheldeman , (otherwise known here as Luc the Second, like some ancient King .... though he was keen to point out how youthful the Lucs are compared to some of us!! :P) has a cheery glint in his eye, it seems he was having a good time... we certainly hope that was the case!!
Hmmm... you did your best to pick out a very friendly picture of mine Maggi .... :-[ ;) :o
Actually, I didn't mind the fake flowers... :-\ but your second guess is correct.... it was Jean... she actually threatened to take the last piece of the wonderful Aberdeen fish pie.... :-X and at that time I hadn't realised there was another pie ready to come out of the oven... ;D ;D
I think I can speak both for Luc II, myself and our girls that we all had a wonderful time ! The show was great, the company even greater and the evening was.... ::) enlightening... :-X ;) :D
It was lovely to meet you all and see so many other Forum friends !
I hope you didn't mind we first "attacked" the Ardfearn Nursery sales table before even looking at the show... ;D it got us three nice rare Oxalis that would have long gone if we'd looked at the show first...
Definitely a show to remember !! :D :D :D
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Hi Maggi. Iris 1 is Lycotis and Iris 2 is Acutiloba longitepala. Did you get the growers name?
Acutiloba longitepala is a recent discovery and I would love to get a start.
John B
The Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh had a super display. They were not able to show at Glasgow because the flowering period of their plants was out of kilter but happily there were plenty in good order to make the 130 mile journey up to Aberdeen.
RBGE1
RBGE _ comosum
RBGE Arisaema1.
RBGE arisaema 2
RBGE Cyp 1
RBGE Hyacinthoides vicenta : this was a real cutie that I would love to grow.
RBGE iris1
RBGE iris 2
RBGE overview
The plants, tended by Elspeth Mackintosh and brought up by her and John Mitchell of RBGE , helped by Struan Harley, were terrific and impressed the judges to the extent of a Certificate of Merit for Lewisia cotyledon var howelli and a Gold Medal for the whole dispaly, but the icing on the cake was a Professional Medal for a truly glorious plant of Lewisia cotyledon var cotyledon.
The howelli was to the left of the big lewisias in the centre of the display, the Professional Medal went to the huge plant in the very middle!
It's the large one in this last shot with the howelli to its left....
RBGE fab lewisias.jpg
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John, these Iris were on the display of the Royal Botanic Gardens, Edinburgh. As far as I know, they are as beset as every other Botanic Garden around the world by regulations regulating the distributing of plant material. :-X :P
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Chris, I love the Centaurea as well. For a minute I thought it was Carduncellus pinnatus but that's even more prickly. Same beautiful flat rosette though.
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Graeme where is the picture of you with your lovely apron.
Angie
I consulted my apron but it said it was a little shy.
Graeme
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Graeme where is the picture of you with your lovely apron.
Angie
I consulted my apron but it said it was a little shy.
Graeme
;D ;D ;D
Angie :)
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Ooh, Lesley, I've had to google that one. Never seen it before. Will have to look out for it in the seed lists....
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Chris, Carduncellus pinnatus and the super C. rhaponticoides do sometimes appear in the seedlists but I'm just about 100% sure that they don't produce fertile seed in cultivation. Or it may be that what is in cultivation is a single clone of each and it needs crossing (though one wouldn't normally accuse a thistle of that). Whatever reason, I've never yet had a single seedling of either species, over more than 40 years of trying! They are best propagated from root cuttings (pieces of tap root inserted in slightly damp gritty sand), but of course one needs a plant to start with.
There's also C. mitissimus but the plant I once had of that was quite a bit taller. A smaller flower head on a 20cm stem whereas the other two are absolutely stemless.
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Those white spots on the leaves are not supposed to be there. I think they're from spraying something or maybe a bird flew over.
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What a lovely thing it is Lesley. I'll keep my eye out. It doesn't even have a listing for the genus in the Plantfinder lol.
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Both mine were imported from the UK in the first instance and C. rhaponticoides at least is reasonably widespread. I'm sure Lori in Canada posted a good picture last northern summer. I could send you a couple of root cuttings in our spring if you'd like to try it.
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How very kind, Lesley. I'd love to try it! Thank you.
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Both mine were imported from the UK in the first instance and C. rhaponticoides at least is reasonably widespread. I'm sure Lori in Canada posted a good picture last northern summer. I could send you a couple of root cuttings in our spring if you'd like to try it.
It is Carduncellus pinnatus that I have, Lesley. By the way, I took fresh seed from it last year, placed it in a damp paper towel in a plastic baggie, waited ages and ages, checking now and then... and got zero germination. Fascinating. I'm sure you have tried it with aged seed too?
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Yes I have Lori, fresh, old and everything in between, of both species. Zilch! I wonder who it was who posted the other then. It was a better picture than mine.