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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: RichardW on March 01, 2010, 06:27:28 PM
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too late to stop? not a chance ;D
few more from today.
a new arrival, plicatus "Celadon"
first outing with macro lens, almost perfect subject - Blewbury Tart.
Mighty Atom.
Curly.
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Super pix, Richard.... moved them into a March thread.... ;D
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Nice pictures Richard
Here is John Gray. I have heard a lot of comments about poor habit but to me it is a most graceful and well behaved snowdrop
and Amy Doncaster which is taking a little time to bulk up
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Hi All
Few of mine today...
Take care...Warren
daglingworth
diggory
merlin
sandersii
john gray
elwesii variegated leaf
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Nice selection, Warren, and that last one is very different - variegated foliage and yellow markings. Your fortune awaits you.
Paddy
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You'll have everyone lining up for that last one Warren if its stable!
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great photos. Do you have a close up of the variegated plants flower?
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Nice selection, Warren, and that last one is very different - variegated foliage and yellow markings. Your fortune awaits you.
Paddy
Thanks Paddy
B nice...!! :P
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I hear there are already variegated plicatus byzantinus, nivalis, woronowii and plicatus. Anyone growing plicatus Gold Edge?
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Mark, can I say that your new avatar looks as though you're being tickled from the rear ;D
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LOL
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On reading that again perhaps I could have worded it better ??? ;D
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great photos. Do you have a close up of the variegated plants flower?
Hi Mark
enclosed...Do you know what causes the leaves to go that way ? (to much nitrogen maybe)
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You'll have everyone lining up for that last one Warren if its stable!
Hi Gail
I take it stable means...shows the same signs the following year...
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Certainly looks a good one, Warren. Stable - well, it could just be something that arose because of a particular set of circumstances that pertained this year, so it is wise to see if these features persist over a few years.
In the meantime, I am going to practice being very nice. Good one.
Paddy
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Warren I dont know what causes variegation. I have a Dactylorhiza that I hope comes back this year with variegated leaves.
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All my elwesii Green Tip have gone wrong this year
Heffalump x2
Little John - possible my top snowdrop
Mandarin - hasnt multiplied since I got it. Still only 2 bulbs ???
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You'll have everyone lining up for that last one Warren if its stable!
Hi Gail
I take it stable means...shows the same signs the following year...
That's right, I wasn't thinking horses. Variegated leaves can be a sign of virus but then you usually get irregular blotches/streaks, sometimes accompanied by distortions etc. The leaves in your picture looked as though it was a more regular variegation like you see in hostas etc. These are termed chimeras and usually arise as spontaneous mutations. There are various different types with periclinal chimeras being the most stable. (I need to look out my college notes!) I think there was another example on the forum recently but I must be searching with the wrong word.
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Were you thinking about this one, Gail?
... http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4921.msg137838#msg137838
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Were you thinking about this one, Gail?
... http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4921.msg137838#msg137838
You're a genius Maggi! :)
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Mark,my Mandarin is exactly the same ,still only the one,bought in 2005
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Mark,my Mandarin is exactly the same ,still only the one,bought in 2005
Similar story here. Slowly increased to three bulbs - gave one away - and the two remaining are just sitting there as two and not really doing much at all. :-\
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Very similar to mine
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There seem to be these variegated elwesii in most garden centres. I suspect it is caused by some fiendish treatment and not its genes.
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This little tiny double was given to me by my Aunt in Newcastle upon Tyne,it hasn't a name that i know off,the flower never bows its head it all ways stays facing sideways.
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My first yellow, Wendy's Gold. Interestingly, the blossoms are always wide open. Is this typical for the cultivar?
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Hi James
My Wendys Gold does not open as much as your one - but then I do not get direct sun in my garden during the winter. Here is a picture I took of one of my Wendy's Gold yesterday afternoon.
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Davey your snowdrops look very like nivalis Blewbury Tart
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Another couple in the garden yesterday.
reginae-olgae ssp vernalis
'Curly'
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Jamie,
I thought your 'Wendy's Gold' looked a little green rather than yellow. I am posting a photograph from earlier in the week for comparison. Perhaps one photograph was taken in full sun and another in shade of the plants were grown in different conditions.
Davey, your snowdrop certainly looks very like 'Blewberry Tart' as Mark has just suggested. A nice interesting snowdrop.
Paddy
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Hi John,
It is funny how the season seems to manage to get itself together after a while. You were commenting that you were behind my season here only a short while ago and now you post 'Curly' which is in full flower here at the same time.
G. 'Curly' below.
Comparing our photographs I note that the green outer tips are more obvious in yours than in mine. Must have a look at it in the garden.
Also, I noted that 'Curly' was in the list of favourite snowdrops which Mark posted a day or two ago. While it may be a nice snowdrop I was surprised by its presence on that list. Your thoughts?
Paddy
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Jamie,
I thought your 'Wendy's Gold' looked a little green rather than yellow. I am posting a photograph from earlier in the week for comparison. Perhaps one photograph was taken in full sun and another in shade of the plants were grown in different conditions.
Paddy
Paddy,
I did get it from Avon Bulbs, which seems to have a good reputation, but mistakes may happen. Maybe it has to do with growing conditions.
Jamie
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Also, Jamie, it may simply be a case of it needing to settle down in the garden. The shape of the flower and the shape of the markings are consistent with 'Wendy's Gold' and Avon Bulbs are certainly a reputable business and unlikely to have sent you the wrong bulbs.
Paddy
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thank you for that Mark and paddy i will label it as jean(my aunt) blewberry tart mark and paddy your welcome to a couple of bulbs i have a lot of it.
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A few pics from the garden today
Wasp
White Swan
Taynton Squash
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Mark,my Mandarin is exactly the same ,still only the one,bought in 2005
Similar story here. Slowly increased to three bulbs - gave one away - and the two remaining are just sitting there as two and not really doing much at all. :-\
Slightly better here; my Mandarin is up from two noses and no flowers to five and two.
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thank you for that Mark and paddy i will label it as jean(my aunt) blewberry tart mark and paddy your welcome to a couple of bulbs i have a lot of it.
Many thanks for your kind offer, Davey. I have a few clumps in the garden. It has done well for me also. Many thanks.
Chas, that 'Taynton Squash' has a fabulously deep green colouring. Lovely one.
Paddy
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two plants of Galanthus krasnovii in flower today
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Such an elegant flower habit, Tony.
Paddy
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That's very early Tony. Mine are just pushing through with the buds between the leaves
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Chas, that 'Taynton Squash' has a fabulously deep green colouring. Lovely one.
Paddy
I rather like the name 'squash' too - amuses me looking at those two marks squashed together like that. 8)
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It is another slow one,I bought this also in 2005,and still only have the one flower,I wonder whether if I move it to a different area in the garden it would help?
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This is a post of the 'left overs' from my last couple of weeks travelling around looking at snowdrops. I apologise if I have posted any of these pictures before but I have lost the plot a little bit (I blame it on lack of sleep from my bad back and annoying sciatic pained leg waking me up every hour!).
1 - 'Pat Mason' - I love this every time it flowers
the rest of these pics are not from my garden
2 - 'Daglingworth' - growing on me now that I have seen it in the flesh
3 - 'Pearl Drops'
4 - A rather nice 'Green Tipped nivalis group'
5 - This was described to me as 'Just Another Spikey' - a name which I hope sticks as it is amusing me in the same way as nothing special does.
6 - I really really want this plant - just my kind of thing: 'Mosquito'
7 - 'Penelope Anne' (OK - this is mine - but I have cocked up this post 4 times now so I don't care about the order any more!)
8 - Another of the interesting Anglesea Abbey finds - 'Moses Basket'
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Mosquito I missed it at the Gala. Anyone have contact details for the seller? I have a name and nursery name but nothing on Google
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I do like Just another spikey, and Mosquito John
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Mosquito I missed it at the Gala. Anyone have contact details for the seller? I have a name and nursery name but nothing on Google
Mark
It wasn't on sale at the GTala, just a display plant. I believe only a handful exist, so keep your fingers crossed that the owner manages to prevent it being another Galanthus shooting star that vanishes back into the darkness.
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fingers and toes crossed ;D
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Galanthus Cressida, one that you won't have in your collection ;) . This is the original clump.
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a few of my galanthus,flowering at last
Wasp
Wendy`s Gold
Green Brush
Trym
Hans guck in die Luft
Walrus
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that didn`t go as I planned,just one photo
how do I get more than one?
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that didn`t go as I planned,just one photo
how do I get more than one?
Hi Loes
Click on "(more attachments)" to get extra 'browse' lines - and then put a separate picture on each line (do not re-use the first browse button - which is I think what you have done).
Looking forward to seeing you pictures. :)
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I see,I`ll try again
hopefully now visible
Wasp
Wendy`s Gold
Green Brush
Trym
Hans guck in die Luft
Walrus
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Galanthus Cressida, one that you won't have in your collection ;) . This is the original clump.
Is it your find, Alan?
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Classical name would indicate Greatorex?
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Galanthus Cressida, one that you won't have in your collection ;) . This is the original clump.
Thus saith Wikipaedia: "a paragon of female inconstancy. As soon as she has betrayed Troilus, she has fulfilled her purpose and the men who have written about her do not mention her again."
Is your clump a paragon of female inconsistency?
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Loes, will you bury the lattice pots? I used to have a good number of Wasp until a Narcisus fly discovered how good they were. I'm now back up to two.
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Yesterday I was looking at my snowdrops when I noticed something different. This is the small un-named, 10cm 4 inch, elwesii. It has a very elegant pedicel and ovary. I have never seen the flowers any wider than this
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I just had to post these pictures of Mrs Thompson at her best yesterday afternoon in my garden.
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Galanthus Cressida, one that you won't have in your collection ;) . This is the original clump.
Thus saith Wikipaedia: "a paragon of female inconstancy. As soon as she has betrayed Troilus, she has fulfilled her purpose and the men who have written about her do not mention her again."
Is your clump a paragon of female inconsistency?
To my eyes she is an attractive flower, easily recognised from the double marks on the clearly-visible inners. The inners are double (flore pleno) and usually very neat. But she is easily put out and generally sulks for a year if moved. She is also a bit shy about flowering unless conditions are right. Does that make her 'a paragon of female inconsistency'? She is indeed my find, Mark, and the clump I photographed is not mine, I don't yet have nearly so many. I believe she must be a natural hybrid between plicatus and nivalis flore pleno so the name (a Shakespearean anti-heroine) is my little joke.
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My pictures are too big aren't they?
How do I reduced their size for the forum?
edit by maggi: I've edited your pix for you Mike and sent you an email about picture editing. :)
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Alan it is a nice looking snowdrop.
Mike you need to remove your images and edit them with Photoshop or similar
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....she is easily put out and generally sulks for a year if moved. She is also a bit shy about flowering unless conditions are right. Does that make her 'a paragon of female inconsistency'?
If Corinne reads that you are in trouble Alan! ;)
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There is quite a difference between "inconstancy" and "inconsistency", Guys ...... :D
Mike Mavers..... better hope McMark doesn't spot your nice photos of Mrs Thompson... he'll be using her to make arborescent 'drops that double as wind turbines in his avatar! ;D
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Cheers Mark I finally got there!
'Pat Mason' is a lovely snowdrop does anyone know where it can be purchased?
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Dohhhhhh, I fawt I had dunnit all by myself Maggi........... :-*
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'Pat Mason' is a lovely snowdrop does anyone know where it can be purchased?
Hi Mike
Mine came from Colesbourne 3 or 4 years ago - I've not seen it listed again anywhere. Hopefully someone will read this and be able to help you. I find it quite slow - increased to 3 bulbs by last year and I then gave one to a good friend as a backup - it will be a while before I can spare another.
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Dohhhhhh, I fawt I had dunnit all by myself Maggi........... :-*
HaaHaa! And in the end you DID, Mike! We must have been loading them at the same time.... I wondered why mine was taking so long! It IS your resized shots that are there!
Cheers!!
Maggi :-*
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Yaaaayy, I'm brighter than I thought!!
Thanks for keeping an eye on me though Maggi ;D
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'Pat Mason' is a lovely snowdrop does anyone know where it can be purchased?
You need look no further than our forumnist Gordon Cottis, who posted a write up about this fine snowdrop just a couple of weeks ago http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5018.msg137029#msg137029 (see reply #48 & #57)
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Thanks snowdropman for that info I'd forgotten about that post.
And John, g.'Pat Mason' certainly is a looker, I can understand why you get so much pleasure from gazing at her.
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There is quite a difference between "inconstancy" and "inconsistency", Guys ...... :D
Oh yes; so who would be the paragon of female inconsitency Maggi?
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Big words Alan and Maggi. I had to Google them ::)
in·con·stant
adj.
1. Changing or varying, especially often and without discernible pattern or reason.
2. Fickle; faithless.
consistency
The degree of solidity or fluidity of a material such as grease, pulp, or slurry.
Does this help me, no.
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Some of my Marks Tall not so tall because I repotted them and this year they are getting moved again in to the soil.
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There is quite a difference between "inconstancy" and "inconsistency", Guys ...... :D
Oh yes; so who would be the paragon of female inconsitency Maggi?
I cannot comment on the grounds I might incriminate myself, Alan! :-X
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A few photographs. Paddy
G. 'Blonde Inge'
G. 'Brenda Troyle'
G. 'Cinderella'
G. 'Cinderella' - with fingers to give scale
G. 'Cockatoo'
C. 'Curly'
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shame the lovely spring weather didn't happen again today, few from yesterday.
Washfield Colesbourne
Blewbury Tart again, looked lovely with the light behind it.
Magnet
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Paddy, Cinderella is weeny, do you have to grow her somewhere safe to stop her being swamped by any ugly sisters?
Here is my latest Galanthus acquisition, Galanthus mintonii, not a very good shot as the light is going ;D
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Brian, is it a rug?
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Brian,
'Cinderella' is a tiny little thing alright but I haven't given it any particular attention. This is its first flowering and I didn't realise in advance how small it really was. It is at the side of a footpath with nothing vigorous near it.
It is one of Ian of the Christie Kind's finds and was named 'Tinkerbell' for a while before it was realised there was a name clash. I expected it to have some green on the tips of the outer segments but this hasn't appeared this year. Next year, hopefully.
Richard, I see you are out playing with your new lens and using it very well. Good shots.
Paddy
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I think Brian is taking us for Mugs.
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I think Brian is taking us for Mugs.
That's a good one!
I wonder if Brian only has one, or if he has a run of those Minton ceramic tiles to decorate a sink back?
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Brian, is it a rug?
Doh!! :-[
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I think Brian is taking us for Mugs.
That's a good one!
I wonder if Brian only has one, or if he has a run of those Minton ceramic tiles to decorate a sink back?
A run would be lovely Maggi, but I was only given one, a very unsuspected present this lunchtime from a garden visitor. I believe it was designed by Christopher Dresser, so should perhaps not be decorating a sink back!
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A DESIGNER sink back, Brian! Why not!! ;D
What a lovely gift!
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A DESIGNER sink back, Brian! Why not!! ;D
What a lovely gift!
Perhaps after twin scaling.
Paddy
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Beats the Thorton's mint sticks I got on my open day
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Paddy, new lens is great but have had to buy a small tripod, was getting very funny looks from visitors watching me getting into odd positions lying on the floor trying to hold the camera steady ;D
hoping to have a proper play tomorrow, quick try this evening produced some much sharper images, downside is I quickly discovered every little tiny spec of dirt/dust really sticks out so had to resort to taking a few in the greenhouse.
imbolc
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Have you chipped it Brian? I suspect not, and would hope the ceramic is in mint condition. Chippy Minton is not very valuable.
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Have you chipped it Brian? I suspect not, and would hope the ceramic is in mint condition. Chippy Minton is not very valuable.
Thankfully it is in Mint(on) condition, which is incredible since it is far older than me ;D 1880's I think. I was quite overcome at such a thoughtful gift.
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Some images from my 'scree'
Photos 1 & 2 show two patches of Galanthus nivalis that are less than 8cm tall.
I would like an identity for photo 3 please.
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A potful of Galanthus scharlockii. I think it looks smaller than 'normal' so I took some measurements.
Overall height is less than 11 cm. Flower is on average 1.6 cm. to the receptacle (ovary) and the ears are 4.5cm. Is this small?
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I would like an identity for photo 3 please.
Arthur, did you buy or were given 'Merlin' at some point in the past? Can't be 100% sure from your pic, but that seems the most likely candidate for your lost label clump.
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Martin
I was given Merlin by a friend and just needed confirmation. thanks
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Quick snap of a green-tipped plicatus seedling that I raised. Not stunning, but it is fertile so gives me something to cross green-tipped and virescent elwesii with in the hope of bigger and better things to come.
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Martin, Not to be dismissed as simply breeding material. It has a good strong green outer segment mark against a nice clean white petal. If it is a good healthy plant, good grower etc then it is a good snowdrop.
Arthur, G. sharlockii is variable in its size. Here I have two clumps where they appear to be smaller than usual, even miserable, yet it is a good big plant in other locations in the garden.
Richard, Certainly a tripod is worth using. I use a 100mm macro lens and find it is very critical of its handling. Focus is very exacting - a perfect focus if you take the precautions of be steady with the camera etc. Generally, I use it hand held upping the ISO to give me higher shutter speeds in dull conditions but do use the tripod when I want a particularly good shot.
Paddy
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So far I dont need to use a tripod :)
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So far I dont need to use a tripod :)
I find that when I close the aperture for maximum depth of field, with a resultant slower shutter speed, it is very difficult to hold a 100mm lens steady below speeds of 1/125.
Paddy
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I just point and shoot. :-[
In fact, last weekend, Brian Ellis was laughing at the way I take photos.
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same here just point and shoot i wish i new somebody near that could show me how to go on i take things in better
if im shown
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I just point and shoot. :-[
In fact, last weekend, Brian Ellis was laughing at the way I take photos.
But not at the results ;)
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Davey what camera do you use?
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I just point and shoot. :-[
In fact, last weekend, Brian Ellis was laughing at the way I take photos.
But not at the results ;)
Ah, but I saw the ones that weren't kept too! 8)
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macro lens is 300mm and just not possible to keep it steady zoomed right in, plus there's no image stabilizer like the Canon lens ;)
hoping this weekend stays fine so I can spend a few hours in the garden, still quite a lot has yet to open properly.
Greenish
Little John
Curly
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Hi All
Loving the images in March.... :)
Few came out in the funshine today...!!
alison hillary
wendy's gold
mighty atom
primrose warburg
daglinworth (open)
Take Care.. Warren
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Warren,
A lovely set of shots. I don't recall many, or any, people posting photographs of 'Daglinworth' previously. The markings are very clear and crisp, lovely strong green and a nice flaring on the inner segments. A nice one.
Richard, I can see you would find it very difficult to hold a 300mm lens steady. A tripod is needed, I think.
Ha, John Finch, "I just point and shoot". I always knew you were a dangerous fellow.
P.S. Just did a search and see that John posted a 'Daglingworth' earlier this week but the flower wasn't open - obviously saw him coming with his "point and shoot" approach and decided to hide.
Paddy
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Warren is your camera that makes Wendy and Primrose so yellow or are they that colour in your garden?
This a group of my Wendy's Gold
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Warren is your camera that makes Wendy and Primrose so yellow or are they that colour in your garden?
This a group of my Wendy's Gold
That's a good point Mark
I and I'm sure many people on here have seen shots on the net...shall we say... "played with" look to them,I try not to use enhancements to my images (doesn't always work out that way though) while I was converting the image from a raw format to a jpeg I thought that they looked a bit too yellow...when it comes to galanthus I don't play with the color...just wouldn't seem rite...
the only thing it may be ? is the conversion possess that is done automatically with my software or as you pointed out might be the camera settings...
I will take a little nosey tomorrow
Thanks for pointing that out...
Warren
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I found Mark's question interesting, since I hadn't noticed anything out of the ordinary with Warren's colours.... here are the three pix together for comparison.... Warren's pix first and third and Mark's in the middle....tomorrow I'll be going outside to look at my Wendy's Gold to see how yellow she is!!
[attach=1] Warren's 'Primrose Warburg'
[attach=2]Mark's 'Wendy's Gold'
[attach=3]Warren's 'Wendy's Gold'
Isn't it just as much a question of light ?
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I'm not sure that Warren's photograph (the first photograph in Maggi's post above) is of 'Wendy's Gold'. On 'Wendy's Gold' almost the entire inner segment is yellow whereas Warren's has an apical mark. Perhaps, it might be one of the other yellows - 'Primrose Warburg' ?
The third photograph is of 'Wendy's Gold' alright and the colour difference between it and Mark's is not particularly different. One is in stronger sunshine than the other and is a little overexposed.
Paddy
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Yes, Paddy, that's correct, I have given the impression that the pix are all 3 of Wendy's gold but the first one is Warren's photo of 'Primrose Warburg' ....sorry for causing confusion !
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Maggi,
I've looked back at Warren's original posting and see that is how they are labelled there. Paddy
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A couple from the garden yesterday.
June Boardman I had to have as she lives in the next village, I shall be going to see their drifts of yellows on Sunday.
Art Nouveau is a French snowdrop, their version of Modern Art.
Trymlet, almost seems old hat with all the new seedlings coming out this year.
Wasp, open in the sun ;D
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A lovely selection, Brian, looking well with a little sunshine on them.
Despite the new seedlings from 'Trym', 'Trymlet' is still an excellent snowdrop.
I think you should use the single quotation marks around the cultivar name: 'June Boardman' I had to have as she lives in the next village rather than June Boardman I had to have as she lives in the next village
Paddy (tongue in cheek)
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'June Boardman' looks like the reverse of 'Blonde Inge' in that the receptacle is yellow, but the inner mark is green. Is this a typical flower, or does the inner mark more closely take on the colour of the receptacle?
One for the wish list, along with 'Wasp'.
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I think you should use the single quotation marks around the cultivar name: 'June Boardman' I had to have as she lives in the next village rather than June Boardman I had to have as she lives in the next village
Paddy (tongue in cheek)
Whoops, what will the neighbours think ;)
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I found Mark's question interesting, since I hadn't noticed anything out of the ordinary with Warren's colours.... here are the three pix together for comparison.... Warren's pix first and third and Mark's in the middle....tomorrow I'll be going outside to look at my Wendy's Gold to see how yellow she is!!
Isn't it just as much a question of light ?
Checking today, I must say that my Wendy's Gold is the same colour as Warren's 'Wendy's Gold'. :)
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Sorry Art, I was disturbed before I could answer your question. In the sales literature the receptacle and inner mark were more of a muchness. Three growers of it have the same colouration as me (this is it's first year), when I go to see the Boardman's on Sunday I will check up with them.
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Here are some yellow one's from my collection!
Maggi that is a better photo in your avetar! I could not keep my eyes from that divine redhaired woman and forgot to look at the snowdroptopics when i was online!
plic. byz. Ilse Bilse
Primrose Warburg
Ray Cobb
Rheingold
Sandersii Blackthorne
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And the last ones!
Spindlestoen Surprise
Wandlebury Ring
Wendys Gold
yellow Bill Bishop
yellow nivalis div.
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Here are some yellow one's from my collection!
Maggi that is a better photo in your avetar! I could not keep my eyes from that divine redhaired women and forgot to look at the snowdroptopics when i was online!
Nice yellow 'drops, Gerard.
I liked it better when my avatar was irresistible!! :-\ :'(
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Gerard your yellow plicatus byzantinus is very desirable
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I found Mark's question interesting, since I hadn't noticed anything out of the ordinary with Warren's colours.... here are the three pix together for comparison.... Warren's pix first and third and Mark's in the middle....tomorrow I'll be going outside to look at my Wendy's Gold to see how yellow she is!!
(Attachment Link) Warren's 'Primrose Warburg'
(Attachment Link) Mark's 'Wendy's Gold'
(Attachment Link) Warren's 'Wendy's Gold'
Isn't it just as much a question of light ?
I must conclude mine actually do look that yellow (as the image I posted) which I did begin to wonder :-\
The image Mark posted looked pale to my eyes..but then I did a Google search for wendys gold to see if there was a big variance in the color and Marks excellent site came up and the image on there in my opinion was as yellow as mine...!!
Warren
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Very nice Gerard, I have to agree 'Ilse Bilse' is lovely :)
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As the interest seems to be in the yellows at the moment, here are a few from the garden today.
Paddy
G. nivalis 'Lutescens'
'Primrose Warburg'
'Sandersii'
'Wendy's Gold'
and a seedling from 'Wendy's Gold' - just took seed from a ripe pod of 'Wendy's Gold' a few years back and sowed them straight away in the soil close to the parent plant. They have flowered for the first time this year, a nice little snowdrop.
Paddy
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Ronald McKenzie is on Gardener's World at the moment.
Paddy
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Hi
here is a little explanataion for 'Ilse Bilse'
This is a old poem for children :
Ilse Bilse,
niemand willse.
Kam der Koch,
nahm sie doch,
steckt sie in das Ofenloch
This means :
Ilse ( a female firstname ) Bilse
nobody like it.
Came the cook
take she with him
and put she in the oven whole
Sorry but it is a bit sad .....
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Ilse Bilse is certainly a bit special. 8)
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Ronald McKenzie is on Gardener's World at the moment.
I'd forgotten that it was starting again, thanks for the reminder. Looks like I-player is not going to show it until after tomorrow's repeat.
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Anthony :
Not "Isle" .....the name is ILSE ( I think from Elizabeth)
8)
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Yes, Vivien, I think that i-player only kicks in after a scheduled repeat. Irritating :(
Ronald Mackenzie was filmed showing us the 'drops in his garden, all the while being gently snowed upon.... he was wearing no coat.... silly chap!
Back at the GW Garden the presenter, Toby B, was shown planting snowdrops.... "bought in the green, £22 -ish for 100 bulbs" and we saw him take handfuls of the poor bulbs and stick them in crowded clumps in the ground, ramming them down in a method absolutely bound to break what roots the benighted things still had left..... horrible cruelty to innocent bulbs, shown before the watershed,too :-X :'(.....
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Anthony :
Not "Isle" .....the name is ILSE ( I think from Elizabeth)
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Thanks. I've changed it Hans. :-[ I quite often mix up letters when I type. ::)
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GW - not worth watching
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Ilse Bilse is very nice and its flowering already from half December!
I like the two yellow markings its very special!
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Is the picture of G. daglingworth from Warren page 1 the same as from Kent page 3
they look different
Roland
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Anthony :
Not "Isle" .....the name is ILSE ( I think from Elizabeth)
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Thanks. I've changed it Hans. :-[ I quite often mix up letters when I type. ::)
Youre not the only one Anthony, me too ;D
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Lovely snowdrop, Gerard - 'Ilse Bilse'.
An attempt at a translations of Hans' rhyme:
Ilse Bilse,
Nobody liked her.
Along came the cook
And away he took her.
He opened the oven
And pushed her in;
And that was the end
of Ilse Bilse.
Paddy
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Is the picture of G. daglingworth from Warren page 1 the same as from Kent page 3
they look different
Roland
I see what you mean Roland - the bottom mark does seem to be joined in my photo rather than broken. I've checked over the original pictures I took (it's not my garden) and the label definitely says 'Daglingworth'. Does anyone else who grows it know if the bottom mark is sometimes joined up?
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ILSE BILSE
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nur der Koch nahm`se doch
weil sie gut nach Knoblauch roch ;D
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ILSE BILSE
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nur der Koch nahm`se doch
weil sie gut nach Knoblauch roch ;D
Hagen,
You have most peculiar taste in women. I keep such flavouring for my food.
Have the German snowdrops begun flowering yet? I have been waiting to see yours and Hans' photographs as you have a selection we don't see here in the west.
Paddy
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Hi Paddy,
Until yesterday we had only 6 days without snow this year. You could find the classical elwesii and also some plicatus in flower. Our nivalis are very late this year, mean, I can show you G.n two weeks later. Yesterday we got 5cm of new snow. This night we will get -10°C. So I`m not waiting for drops outside.
ILSE BILSE is a nice visual sister of BLONDE INGE and very good for the garden and not for oven, isn`t it?
If you ever saw Drops in the wild, then you often found Allium ursinum too ----- smell of garlic( Knoblauch - Allium sativum)
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the label definitely says 'Daglingworth'. Does anyone else who grows it know if the bottom mark is sometimes joined up?
John, Daglingworth isn't a single clone. A number of different, though very similar, clones were selected from the original population after its discovery, some better than others, so the marks can vary within the overall basic theme.
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i found this snowdrop atmy fathers today,the clump was part of a normal double drop,i think its pretty nice.There are two forms amongst it a pure white one and one with green in it.
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Nice Spikies Davey 8) - a lot of people hate them but the're just my kind of weird thing. ;D
Here is another of them in my garden today.
'Bunch'
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I like spikies but dont grow any.
I have an elwesii that I first noticed coming up on my snowdrop day. The flower is now free of the spathe and it's a cream!
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I like spikies but dont grow any.
I have an elwesii that I first noticed coming up on my snowdrop day. The flower is now free of the spathe and it's a cream!
Is that Dulux cream or RHS cream?
Paddy
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Unfortunately the colour chart doesnt have a suitable off white
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Here it is but the camera doesnt show it very well. Something else that is unusual is the shape of the emerging leaves. I'll take a photo tomorrow
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Just back from Loughborough. I didn't take many pictures as it was very crowded and my camera is so bad.
There are only these where I managed to get the focus, exposure and white balance almost right at the same time.
G. Sophie North - Don Peace had three pots of these and they were stunning (good scent too)
Vic Aspland's 3-pan nivalis, viridapice and plicatus. How did he manage to lift these huge pots?
G, elwesii monostictus
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Hi all, thanks for showing so many super pictures both from your gardens and from the shows. I am posting some pictures taken recently from wild (so to speak) natural woodland plantings established years ago. The first few pictures are from woodlands in Northumberland with G. nivalis Sandersii. I will then post some pictures of Galanthus plicatus taken at Brechin castle these include one interesting hybrid, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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here is my strange Viridapice again. The tusks are actually the spathe and the pedicel is missing.
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Hi again here are the pictures taken at Brechin all are Galanthus plicatus.
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Next set last picture is a hybrid G plicatus x G. nivalsi, cheers Ian the christie kind.
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Galanthus Green Man
I have not seen photos of this posted before so here they are.
I find this a nice vigorous snowdrop that multiplies well.
Eric
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1, 4 and hybrid 1 look good.
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Green Man looks great. I hear it going to on Avon's list. I've only seen it in one other garden
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Does anyone grow Viridapice Quantock form? It's not very exciting.
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Brechin certainly seems to be a happy hunting ground for you, Ian. Some lovely snowdrops.
Paddy
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I like the spikies too
Bunch is a very nice one and I am waiting for Irish Green to open but that will take another week or so
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Wow Ian, Brechin plicatus 2010 number 4 and 5 are breathtaking!
Mark i hope for you that viridapice with splitspathe/claws will be the same next year!
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So do I Gerard. If it is it will be twin scaled next year.
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A few from the garden. Paddy
G. 'Cyril Warr'
G. 'David Shackleton'
G. 'David Shackleton' group
G. 'Drummond Giant'
G. 'Elfin'
G. 'Fred's Giant'
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A few more, Paddy
G. 'Little Ben'
G. 'Melanie Broughton'
G. 'Mrs. Backhouse Spectacles'
G. 'Peardrop'
G. 'Peardrop' group
G. 'Pride o' the Mill'
G. 'Pusey Greentips' group
G. 'Pusey Greentips'
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Paddy, you have SO many gorgeous snowdrops - how many years have you been growing them?
'Little Ben' is really cute and 'Peardrop' is a sweetie :D One to covet 8)
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The forum, at least the snowdrop section, is quiet just now and so I will empty my SRGC photograph folder as I will not be cutting in on any other topic at the moment.
Paddy
G. rizehensis
G. 'Robin Hood'
G. 'Sally Pasmore'
G. 'Sophie North'
G. 'St. Anne's'
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Paddy, you have SO many gorgeous snowdrops - how many years have you been growing them?
'Little Ben' is really cute and 'Peardrop' is a sweetie :D One to covet 8)
Robin, there are many very kind people who are interested in snowdrops and who share very generously. Each snowdrop has a connection to a kindness which I treasure.
Isn't G. 'Sally Pasmore' beautiful - Mary's favourite and a gift from the very kindest of friends(who will not read this as he doesn't use the internet)
Paddy
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The last of them. Paddy
G. 'Straffan'
G. 'Straffan'
G. 'The Linns'
G. 'The Whopper'
G. 'Tiny Tim'
G. 'Yvonne'
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Paddy, it's what makes gardening have a real meaning for me too - friendships growing through plants, what could be better 8)
PS 'Robin Hood' has be on the figurative list too :D
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Robin, Absolutely! Mary and I, when we walk around the garden to look at the plants, will always remember where, when and from whom we received each plant. To be honest, it is Mary who can remember all these details. For the snowdrops, I write all these little things down and keep a record or sometimes put initials on the label in the garden to remind me who gave me a particular snowdrop. Besides this personal connection which plants have I also enjoy knowing the history of a plant or having a plant associated with a particular person. It makes it all the more interesting.
'Robin Hood' is a lovely snowdrop, one of those which stand out easily in the garden.
You might soon be trying to grow a few in the Alp?
Paddy
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Lovely stuff Paddy. Just a small correction- it is Pusey (as in Green Tips) not Pucey, after the small town of Pusey in Oxfordshire where it was first found.
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Lovely stuff Paddy. Just a small correction- it is Pusey (as in Green Tips) not Pucey, after the small town of Pusey in Oxfordshire where it was first found.
Thank you, David. I am so confused with this spelling even reverting at times to the older mistake of spelling it as "Pewsey"
Paddy
Post Scriptum: I have gone back and corrected this now. P.
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Such nice days at the weekend what else was there to do but visit friends? Our first visit was on Saturday, and, after greetings, coffee and a quick word with the dogs we went out to see progress in the garden. Molly was not pleased to be left indoors and wondered what all the fuss was about - she does see them every day!
One long thin bed, the miniature iris which bordered the lawn had been replaced by a bed of snowdrops (fear not the iris have been moved elsewhere). David amused himself with taking some pictures whilst we talked drops, and most of those that follow are things that caught his eye ;D
So here we have Alison Hilary with a good large inner mark, All Saints with the curved spathe, Godfrey Owen and one of the snowdrops rescued from Warham, there are several different snowdrops circulating from Warham, on a visit to the garden my friend was given a trowel and encouraged to look round and take a bulb of anything that took her fancy, she has several nice snowdrops from there.
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Elsewhere amongst other plantings, there is a large raised bed with a path through the centre. Here were a good clump of Augustus, and shining out on the edge of the bed the very good Lowick form of sandersii. I had to laugh because she had a good clump of Selborne Green tips with lots of double heads, every year I mean to buy it and forget until I see it in another garden. One of the snowdrops that also caught my eye was a large, green tipped elwesii. Also in this bed a fine clump of Swanton - I really like these snowdrops with puckered outers. In another area, well protected was Lacewing, which was collected from the Greatorex plot a couple of years ago when we visited, and finally Mosquito, which I first saw about four years ago when it was first found, I'm pleased to have seen it in two more gardens over the last couple of weeks. When first open it has a very distinctive 'sting' coming from the centre of the flower, but this one is going over and you can see that it is formed from two inners, I wonder if St Pancras (which has three inners protruding) is one of the parents.
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On Sunday I was invited to go and look at a patch of plicatus which has started throwing up some yellows, you can just see some at the foot of this picture. One of them was named June Boardman after the lady of the house, and I was delighted to be given another unnamed yellow from this patch. It was interesting to find out from Bill that when he used to show at the RHS Halls he was a contemporary of Alex Duguid who gave him a Leucojum wagneri. I thought it apt that I should give them a Galanthus 'Alex Duguid' in return.
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Great post Brian. I wish I had come to stay this weekend too! [green with envy icon]
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Hello Brian I mean to see JUNE BOARDMAN with a yellow ovarium and a green apical mark, isn`t it???
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Hello Hagen, yes it appears to be a limey green/yellow apical mark, I am interested to see whether it will change as the flower is now in the sun (well it would be if we had some), as it was in a shady position before it was planted in the garden.
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Paddy & Brian - Thanks for the grand tours. Brian that Lowick Sandersii is a stunner and their Augustus looks clean of virus - can that be? Paddy - first time I've seen Elfin, a distinctive - would you call it a ? - spikey. You never seem to repeat a snowdrop photo - the collection must be getting huge.
There's a mention in the Bavcon book that G. nivalis in Slovenia does not naturalize, aside from a very few, manured open fields. It is not clear if by manured he means pasture land or manured by passing native sheep/goats which surely would not amount to a great deal of nitrogen. This is not the first time I have read that Galanthus detests manure. If true is that fresh manure or even well-rotted manure and has anyone tried well-rotted manure on their drops?
johnw
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I have been asked twice today if that was a doctored picture of the Lowick form of Sandersii group. You have David to thank for the photos - I was too busy talking and looking 8) The photograph colour has not been doctored at all. I was bowled over by it I have to admit...and I think it might need splitting, so if we play our cards right ;)
I think Paddy's Elfin is still in the process of dropping, it's certainly not a spikey as far as I know.
As to manure, I think Mike Broadhurst uses his horses manure (well rotted I would think - is that right Mike?) and other people talk of horses manure being used, but then I have heard that they don't like animal manure too so I am at a loss as to what to think.
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I think Paddy's Elfin is still in the process of dropping, it's certainly not a spikey as far as I know.
My 'Elfin' has been an upward pointing flower, just like Paddys', for the last 4 year since I got it from Phil Cornish. I wouldn't describe it as a 'spikey' but it is definitely a 'different' one. This year however it has decided to break the trend and all but one flower have 'dropped' and look like a green tipped nivalis.
I seem to remember hearing that Phil experienced the same when he first found it and was calling it 'Stargazer' for the first few years until it broke the trend, and stopped staring upwards, for him too.
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I think Paddy's Elfin is still in the process of dropping, it's certainly not a spikey as far as I know.
My 'Elfin' has been an upward pointing flower, just like Paddys', for the last 4 year since I got it from Phil Cornish. I wouldn't describe it as a 'spikey' but it is definitely a 'different' one. This year however it has decided to break the trend and all but one flower have 'dropped' and look like a green tipped nivalis.
Brian / John - What a mixed up little elf it is. And me too for calling it a spikey. seems rather late for a nivalis at Paddy's given the others he has shown.
Brian - That Selborne may need lfting as well. (;D but maybe ;) is more apppropriate ???) It really is a show stopper. Ken has beaten me to it again, the first of his double nivalis came out yesterday, not even near stone work so it beats out my nivalis up against the foundation.
johnw - +10c and sunny, a rare mild early March day.
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John,
I think Brian and John are right regarding 'Elfin'. When it began opening it was quite upright but has leaned over more and more as the flowers have matured and I think it will go below the horizontal but not hang as much a other snowdrops when fully mature.
Re Brian's photograph of 'Sandersii ex Lowick', I can vouch for the colour. It really is that good strong yellow. Brian's (David's) photograph was taken with full sunlight which would show the yellow to its best but I can vouch that it is the same colour here in the garden. I have posted photographs of it earlier but labelled it simply as 'Sandersii' as that is what is on the label in the garden but my records show that it is 'Sandersii ex Lowick' purchased from Cambo Estate in 1996. It now has five flowers which is a very slow increase over those years.
Brian, Great show from your visit. The photograph of the snowdrop bed shows a lovely planting of bulbs and is likely to improve year on year. Also, a very interesting selection of snowdrops, lovely to see them.
Paddy
A further comment on looking back over the photographs again: Doesn't 'Augustus' look fabulous in a clump, great impact with the big flowers, great patch of white. 'Swanton' is similar in effect.
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....but my records show that it is 'Sandersii ex Lowick' purchased from Cambo Estate in 1996. It now has five flowers which is a very slow increase over those years.
Mine came from that same catalogue Paddy - if memory serves it was the very last year that Cambo did mail order (I wish they would still post stuff :-\ )
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....but my records show that it is 'Sandersii ex Lowick' purchased from Cambo Estate in 1996. It now has five flowers which is a very slow increase over those years.
Mine came from that same catalogue Paddy - if memory serves it was the very last year that Cambo did mail order (I wish they would still post stuff :-\ )
And how did it do for you, John. Has it increased at a reasonable pace?
Paddy
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I think there is 3 in my garden and 2 in mums - so about the same speedy rate! :)
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Our first visit was on Saturday, and, after greetings, coffee and a quick word with the dogs we went out to see progress in the garden. Molly was not pleased to be left indoors and wondered what all the fuss was about - she does see them every day!
I have been taken to task for not including Molly! Here she is.
I will have to check my Elfin's and see what they are up to.
Thanks for the comments folks I will pass them on to David.
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I think there is 3 in my garden and 2 in mums - so about the same speedy rate! :)
It's a pity it is so slow as it's a nice snowdrop. Paddy
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Our first visit was on Saturday, and, after greetings, coffee and a quick word with the dogs we went out to see progress in the garden. Molly was not pleased to be left indoors and wondered what all the fuss was about - she does see them every day!
I have been taken to task for not including Molly! Here she is.
Thanks for the comments folks I will pass them on to David.
I should think so too! Molly looks absolutely delightful.
Super pix all round, my thanks to David, too !
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I'm sorry that I didn't make it on Saturday, Brian. It looks like you had a wonderful time and that the weather was excellent. Pass on my compliments to David on the wonderful photographs.
I managed to get a few photographs taken on Sunday morning and have posted a few below.
'Cliff Curtis' was a gift from the man himself and had to post a photograph to show Cliff that I hadn't killed it off! Thanks Cliff, I know that you do look in from time to time ;).
Big Boy hasn't fully opened up yet but I thought that I'd post a picture anyway.
Corrin has flowered for the first time with me this year and it is a fantastic flower. I make no apologies for showing this Trym-a-like or for showing Green of Hearts too! Sorry if you don't like them but I am very smitten with them. Unfortunately I don't own Green of Hearts but at least I have my own photograph.
Deer Slot is showing a good mark on one of the inners as per the book so I'm very happy with that. It had opened up wider than I wanted for the photograph but I captured the mark for reference next year.
I posted a picture of Jonathan a couple of weeks ago and it has opened up a little more now and so I have included another photograph to show the inner markings.
The last photograph is not Diggory but a nice plicatus that I found a couple of years ago. The flowers have the puckering on the outers but do not curve under as the flower develops. It is also bigger than Diggory and multiplies quite quickly with me.
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Lovely set of snowdrops, David.
I think you may post photographs of 'Corrin' and 'Green of Heart' as often as you like. They are both gorgeous.
'Deer Slot' just opened here today but it has very small and light marks not at all as good or as strong as those you have shown. Maybe next year.
Your own find looks very good.
Paddy
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Thanks for the kind comments, Paddy.
I'm only sorry that 'Megan' came up blind this year as I would have posted that too.
I was fortunate enough to pick up 'Deer Slot' at the Gala. It was pleasing to see that all of those for sale were nicely marked.
My own find looks very nice in a clump and hopefully there'll be a few more that have swollen up at the weekend to show you what I mean. They do start flowering quite low down but extend as they mature. They are certainly distinctive and easily spotted even from a distance.
David
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Very nice, David, and that Deer Slot has a great mark, mine is quite squinny! DQfind is very nice too. You did miss a very nice visit, but there's always another time.
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I seem to remember hearing that Phil experienced the same when he first found it and was calling it 'Stargazer' for the first few years until it broke the trend, and stopped staring upwards, for him too.
That's what I was told also
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David,
Re 'Megan': can you tell me something about it. The reason I ask is that 'Megan' is given as a synonym of G. ikariae 'Emerald Isle' and I wondered if this is what you have as your 'Megan'.
I have found a post from John F. from Feb 2009 with a photograph of 'Megan' and it is more along the lines of a 'Trym' seedling.
Paddy
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Paddy. I think the Megan DQ talks of is another of the wonderful trymalikes that has been distributed in recent years. The is a lovely pic of a potfull shown at the Loughborough show in 2006 here:
http://freespace.virgin.net/almond.jim/Whatsnew.htm
Brian may be able to show a picture of the flower in a garden as I think his was flowering while I visited two weeks ago.
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Great pix David. And boy that Green of Hearts sure looks like the Trym impostor here. Good to see it. The Bavcon book describes these outer markings as a rear shot of a frog about to leap, I love it.
Also good to see that Deer Slot has the correct footprints.
johnw - it hit 12c today, 1 tomorrow.
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Paddy. I think the Megan DQ talks of is another of the wonderful trymalikes that has been distributed in recent years. The is a lovely pic of a potfull shown at the Loughborough show in 2006 here:
http://freespace.virgin.net/almond.jim/Whatsnew.htm
Brian may be able to show a picture of the flower in a garden as I think his was flowering while I visited two weeks ago.
Whilst it may have been flowering then a pheasant took a fancy to it. I'm rather hoping the one that I saw by the side of the road is the culprit and it won't happen again :-\
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I have been taken to task for not including Molly! Here she is.
She's cute and by Jove she's wearing a Sir Thomas Beecham disguise! Can only imagine her comments as rears raised while examining drops.
johnw
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spent a few hours sifting through clumps around an area that's about to cleared yesterday, planted with elwesii many years ago now lots of hybrids, found a few interesting plants & one very odd one.
gdn2 is a clump of 5 bulbs all with double ovaries/flowers
really like gdn3
everything about gdn5 is big.
gdn6 appears a little more yellow than this photo shows.
find7 was found a few years ago, appears to have some Diggory in it.
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David great set of green tips. I like green tipped snowdrops and would love to have them all. I think there will come a time when they will be as confusing as chunky single marked snowdrops.
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John (Finch),
I tried Jim Almond's site but there seems to be some problem there. As I scrolled down the page the font size increased dramatically to the point of being illegible so I gave up on it.
Then Brian's pheasant (the ba....d) went and ate his flower of 'Megan'. This reminds me to tell you that when the hens follow me into an area of the garden with snowdrops it can be a nuisance keeping them from picking off the flowers. It's just that they want to pick at something bright as they don't eat them at all. They pick at rings on my fingers, my watch, buttons on coats etc just as quickly.
Richard, a nice selection of finds - good news for you.
Beautiful day her, morning walk finished, shops visited, time for coffee and cake now and the rest of the day will be in the garden.
Paddy
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I saw a starling in my garden last week pulling off snowdrop flowers. I have never had the problem of sparrows nibbling Crocus
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I use upturned wire hanging baskets to keep my chickens off new plantings - they help deter the pheasants from pulling heads of snowdrops and pulsatillas too.
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Sparrows also love trimming the heads of primroses, they will work their way round the whole clump and just pick them off! Suggestions have been most welcome, I need more hanging baskets Gail - have already covered Rosemary Burnham, Don Armstrong, Wasp and one or two others, the garden is starting to look like a junk yard ::) Then just when you think you're safe... gardening in the countryside is a constant battle against rabbits, moles, pheasants, pigeons etc etc...but it's worth it 8)
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Sparrows also love trimming the heads of primroses, they will work their way round the whole clump and just pick them off! Suggestions have been most welcome, I need more hanging baskets Gail - have already covered Rosemary Burnham, Don Armstrong, Wasp and one or two others, the garden is starting to look like a junk yard ::) Then just when you think you're safe... gardening in the countryside is a constant battle against rabbits, moles, pheasants, pigeons etc etc...but it's worth it 8)
You mean you don't have deer ;D
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John (Finch),
I tried Jim Almond's site but there seems to be some problem there. As I scrolled down the page the font size increased dramatically to the point of being illegible so I gave up on it.
That happened for me using Google Chrome as my web browser, but not when I switched to Internet Explorer
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Alan, Yes, I use Google Chrome also.
Gail, I love the Sultans, beautiful.
Paddy
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Anyone know what's happened to "Judy's Snowdrops" Web Site-I can't find it at all?
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Anyone know what's happened to "Judy's Snowdrops" Web Site-I can't find it at all?
David - due to the upsurge in interest in snowdrops, Janet's website has been receiving 600 visitors a day, which exceeds the band width allowed by her present supplier & she has had to keep taking the website off-line as a consequence.
Janet is in the throes of transferring over to a new supplier and hopes to have this sorted soon.
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Chris, many thanks for that, it also answers why I had problems from time to time last week. Hope it is back up soon I find it very useful.
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Following on comments on G. 'Elfin', whether it is one of the "spikey" snowdrops or not, here are some photographs from the garden today. It seems the flowers, as they mature, assume the normal hanging habit of the majority of snowdrops. In other words, it is a well-behaved snowdrop.
Paddy
G. 'Elfin'
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Just in case John F. is feeling disappointed that 'Elfin' is not a genuine spikey here is one that is: G. 'Irish Green'.
Also, a shot of G. 'Deerslot' with quite a light mark.
Paddy
G. 'Irish Green'
G. 'Deerslot'
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Finally, a few with green markings on the outer segments. Paddy
G. 'Federkleid'
G. 'Greenish'
G. 'Streifenweh'
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Paddy, the last one is very nice. What language is the name?
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Paddy, the last one is very nice.
I think they are all beautiful, and I am sure the Deer would enjoy eating them ;D
Paddy it is nice to see Deer Slot with the separate marks mine are all joined up :-\
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Paddy, the last one is very nice. What language is the name?
German. It's one of Hagen's. Mine is a little behind due to excess of snow.
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I really wish the snow would clear from your gardens as I feel I am searching for photographs to put up for March. Here are a few, with some repetition, I'm afraid and hope you will forgive me.
Do haw on the snow, and get your cameras out. Other people's gardens and plants are always so much more interesting than one's own.
Paddy
G. 'Kinnaird' - one of Ian of the Christie's finds.
G. 'St. Anne's'
G. 'John Gray' - certainly a repeat posting but it was looking lovely in the sunshine.
G. 'Lady Moore' - another repeat but I love it.
Captain Dunstan's Snowdrop - a pet name applied by a lady because this snowdrop was in the garden when she bought it from Captain Dunstan
Finally, I just had to get round to cutting the hedges.
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Wonderful hedgecutter Paddy - can we borrow it? :)
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Wonderful hedgecutter Paddy - can we borrow it? :)
Do you think I'll get much work?
Paddy
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was hoping to get a pic of St Anne's today but the cold kept it closed, same with a many others.
only one worth posting, Peardrop.
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Here are some for you
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Wonderful hedgecutter Paddy - can we borrow it? :)
Do you think I'll get much work?
Paddy
I'm not sure..... have you got any photos of cutting the sides????? ;D
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The woronowii 'E.K. Balls' I showed isn't named for him but collected by him. I just found the label
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Are 'Blewbury' and 'Blewbury Tart' the same please?
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Are 'Blewbury' and 'Blewbury Tart' the same please?
David - Quite separate, and different plants - if you go to Judy's Snowdrops website, which is now up and running again, you will find photo's of both
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Or to save you the trouble here are mine. Both as supplied by Beth Chatto.
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Gail,
My compliments on your excellent photographs. Paddy
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Many thanks Chris and Gail-I'm sorted ;D
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Here are some cultivars of Galanthus elwesii from my garden:
Big Boy
Eva Habermeier, my own selection, thought just an elwsesii, but from the garden of the late mother of a friend
Jessica
Lodestar
Grumpy
Hörup, a selction of Rita Thomsen from her garden at Hörup in the north of Germany next to the Danish border
Selborne Green Tips
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Thomas,
Good to see that your weather has improved sufficiently for you to post some photographs of your snowdrops - and a lovely selection as well. 'Eva Habremeier' looks a lovely snowdrop.
Paddy
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Good selection, Thomas.
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Bob Gordon and Margaret Glynn
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Caught out taking a sneaky photo
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Thank you, Paddy and Mark, and nice to see Bob and Margaret here ... :)
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Thomas do you get twin flowers on your Selborne Green Tips?
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It is new to my garden. Last year no flower at all and now this single one. Maybe twins next year? :)
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It is new to my garden. Last year no flower at all and now this single one. Maybe twins next year? :)
I hope so Thomas, I saw a lovely clump where nearly every scape had two flowers on it. Good luck for next year ;)
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AAAARGH!! I've had so many nice seedlings flowering again this year for the first time since chipping them, making nice clumps, but had no time to take pics for the forum and not even been here most days to see them! :-[ Will have to try to get the camera out today and see if any are still worth snapping. But pollinating always takes priority. :-\
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Martin why not have the camera beside you/in your pocket and take a photo before pulling the flower apart?
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I am not very crazy about snowdrop memorabilia, but here is a photo of some of my items. There exists an arts and craft tradition in the frontier mountains between Saxony and Czechia making these small wooden figures of children holding a flower. And sometimes it is a snowdrop. :)
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Thomas - I think you are on the slippery slope to being an avid collector of snowdrop memorabilia ;D
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Now for my 'oops moment'..... :-[
I've been looking all season in my garden for 'Ivy Cottage Green Tips'. I knew there should be a pot full of it somewhere and I have searched and searched for it and yet failed to find it.
Then this morning I spotted one poor little flower peering out from under a stepping stone. :-[ Whoops. ::)
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Good morning John
Best yellow leafed I have ever seen
can I have a spare one??
Roland
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I wonder if you are hoping it comes up yellow next year as well.
Talk about putting your foot on it!
Paddy
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Having driven to Joe's SPRINGTHING only to find that due to the cold weather Joe had had to call off the event. However Joe had plenty of drops for sale including a number of E A Bowles which I noticed at least one had been sold. I spoke with Steve who was struggling with two full bags of drops and on the way out I had a word with Alan(B) who convinced me that Wandlebury Country Park drops were still in good shape.
A few shots of the country park drops follow. A Warden showed me an interesting clump with very pale inner markings. This clump on Friday still had four flowers but by mid day Saturday only one was left attached and one picked one laying nearby on the ground. I trust these will be moved off a well walked area to a safer place where the trowel brigade can't spot them.
John(M)
Will have to post the nivals shots in a second posting.
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Wandlebury Country Park main nivals area shots.
John(M)
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Wow John - stunning! Thanks so much for posting.
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A glorious carpet John - what an amazing sight :)
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A few shots of the country park drops follow. A Warden showed me an interesting clump with very pale inner markings. This clump on Friday still had four flowers but by mid day Saturday only one was left attached and one picked one laying nearby on the ground. I trust these will be moved off a well walked area to a safer place where the trowel brigade can't spot them.
I'm told people do try to steal drops from Wandlebury but I hope it's not a brigade of people. The main problem is people who trample them or pick them and animals that uproot them. A few probably try to take some home to plant in their garden and damage ten in order to get one.
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A few quick snaps from this morning.
1 - 'Cowhouse Green'
2 - 'Greenish'
3 - 'Hugh MacKenzie'
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Hugh - very nice
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I like the shape of Cowhouse
do you have spare ones of this one
it is even better as the yellow leaved one
Roland
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A few from me to keep the ball rolling
Broadwell
Peter Fry
Hill Poe x2
Hoverfly
Luke
nivalis ex Czech Republic
nivalis The Charmer
nivalis Spetchley Yellow
ex Sally Pasmore
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Having driven to Joe's SPRINGTHING only to find that due to the cold weather Joe had had to call off the event. I spoke with Steve who was struggling with two full bags of drops....
John(M)
John
Those bags were full of primulas - didn't buy a single snowdrop. See my halo?
Steve
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... to keep the ball rolling ...
We still wait for our season.
Bad weather, bad pic, but a unusual flower, isn`t it?
This night 5cm snow new. :(
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Hi all!
Due to the very cold winter snowdrops in our garden are about 2 weeks later than usual:
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Hi Robin, we never forgot Your fantastic GREEN MILE. I asked you for a bulb, but I was not the only one ..... ;)
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'Green Mile' is looking very good, Robin. Superb clump of rhizensis too - looks like a very strong grower, is it the Baytop triploid form?
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Superb clump of rhizensis too - looks like a very strong grower, is it the Baytop triploid form?
Martin,
I bought 2 bulbs 5 years ago from a Belgian grower. No idea if it is triploid or not.
Robin
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Now spring really seems to begin. Some very quick shots of today:
Primrose Warburg
nivalis 'Ecusson d'or'
nivalis Sandersii Group ex Lowick (from Cambo)
plicatus subsp. byzantinus
Cowhouse Green
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Thomas, a selection of beauties.
Paddy
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Some super snowdrops, thanks to you all, Robin that 'Green Mile' is stunning.
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Superb clump of rhizensis too - looks like a very strong grower, is it the Baytop triploid form?
Martin,
I bought 2 bulbs 5 years ago from a Belgian grower. No idea if it is triploid or not.
Robin
Looks like it may well be. Looks rather wide-leaved, strong and large flowered to be the smaller diploid form (which tends to split into lots of small bulbs, while the triploid Baytop form makes larger bulbs that don't split down into lots of non-flowering tiny ones).
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Hi Robin, we never forgot Your fantastic GREEN MILE. I asked you for a bulb, but I was not the only one ..... ;)
ditto
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Lovely pic of rizehensis, and I do like 'Green Mile'. Here is Galanthus elwesii 'Green Brush', 'Trumps', 'Tubby Merlin', G. krasnovii and 'Ailwyn'.
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I have this one labelled "Galanthus nivalis 'Trym-like'".
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I have this one labelled "Galanthus nivalis 'Trym-like'".
Nice snowdrop, but the stripes don't remind me of Trym.
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Don't Trym and its ilk have the funny flared shape? :-\
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Morning Antony, the green tips of GREEN BRUSH look very different.
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Thomas, you are the only German, who has enough sun in the garden, to make such fine pics. Wäre Dein Garten nur gleich um die Ecke.
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Hagen, the green tips of your 'Green Brush' look very different. Mine came from Gerard, so unless he has sent me something else, it should be right?
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Anthony mine was quite different too, hardly any green on the tips which I hope can be put down to immaturity?
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Antony, Brian - G. elwesii are not constant to show green tips of equal quality all years. So Your plants will be better and better, I`m sure!
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My Green Brush came to nothing. Both flowers aborted but I could see they only had small green tips like Anthony's :-\
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My G. 'Green Brush' has gone over... the leaves are huge... tall and broad, a dull grey green and the green tips were small and much lighter in shade than the heavy dark green inner mark.
I put that down to the bulb being immature, though growing well ..... ???
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Can anyone point me to a posting from one or two years back which pointed out the presence of small air-filled pockets on the surface of some G ikariae/woronowii leaves? I'm trying to identify mine which do have these, but can't find the article. Thanks.
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GREEN BRUSH
Now I know it much better. Little tips come in insular climate, fine deep green tips only grow in continental climate, isn`t it? ;D
But the plant of Günter Waldorf had also only tiny tips. Oh. ???
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GREEN BRUSH
Now I know it much better. Little tips come in insular climate, fine deep green tips only grow in continental climate, isn`t it? ;D
But the plant of Günter Waldorf had also only tiny tips. Oh. ???
;D ;D ;D :D
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Can anyone point me to a posting from one or two years back which pointed out the presence of small air-filled pockets on the surface of some G ikariae/woronowii leaves? I'm trying to identify mine which do have these, but can't find the article. Thanks.
Not sure Anne, but possibly search for Galanthus 'seersucker'?
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Anne, generally woronowii has green only at the tip of the inners while ikariae has at least half of the inner green
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Anne, you have to cut across a leaf, and in ikariae you should see small holes, tubes running the length of the leaf, roughly large enough to insert a pin.
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Anne, this was mentioned in various places but this is the main one, I think:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=280.msg6291#msg6291
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my Green Brush looks like Hagens ;D
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Here are some more:
'Hans Guck in die Luft'
'Angelique'
nivalis 'Tippy Green'
'Spindlestone Surprise'
'Bill Clark'
'Little Ben'
'Lapwing' (?)
'Grumpy'
'David Baker'
'Godfrey Owen' showing effect of the snow.
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A lovely run of snowdrops Anthony.
A few strange Viridapice this year, quite the mixed bag. A couple with huge spathes like Warei and one that looks like a w(W)alrus.
+12c here today, bizarre for mid-March, sunny and we need rain badly. What happened to Sheila's Brush this year? Usually it strikes Newfoundland on St. Patrick's Day but nothing in sight.
johnw
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Sheila's Brush?? Is that a particularly spiky snowdrop?
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Hi,
I am new here. It's my first message.
I would like to present you a galanthus that I have found in the wild among a clump of nivalis. I have named it "Marin" who is my youngest little son.
The bulb increases quite well. 9 bulbs since 2008 and is very stable.
I shall insert a photo soon.
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Here is a photo of "Marin"
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Hi jppreaux
Welcome to the Forum. Any chance that you could takeand post another photo of Marin and slightly-sharper focussed? Meanwhile it looks a nice strong-growing plicate.
Antony, is your Little Ben always as limey-coloured as your posted pic suggests? Mine is generally a much greener colour. I have to say that a delicate lime colouration does more for me than all the yellows and green outers.
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Hallo John
The leftovers are grown in Holland and I think that they stay
near old farmhouses
where they are collected every 5/6 or more years
so there will be a lot of seedlings around
of course the original clone does not exist any more
it is taken over by commercial growers
but they harvest it the same way sins a long time
so commercial stocks are always mixed
Roland
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Sorry Steeve. "Marin" is not a plicatus but a nivalis.
I shall put others photos later.
Mark Brown was here in my garden last week. He saw "Marin" and was very surprised when discovering it.
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Hello "jp", welcome to the forum 8)
What a nice snowdrop to name for your son....... I like the texture in the petals.
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Hello JP,
Welcome to the forum and congratulations on finding such a lovely snowdrop. I think the texture on the outer segments is very nice indeed - one for you to treasure and nice to have it named after your son. Good also that it increases well, good health and vigour.
Paddy
Anthony, nearly forgot to comment on your photographs - lovely selection, all looking great. P.
I don't grow 'Lapwing'. Are the markings always that light?
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Just some new Galanthus elwesii var. monostictus
Roland
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Welcome to the forum JP, Marin is very nice.
Here are a few from the garden this morning as I'm here for once when the sun is shining ::)
Firstly Lapwing which is really a super snowdrop, quite distinctive Anthony.
Swanton lifting her skirts in the sun - despite all the others being nipped off this one survives, I'm glad I chipped the bulb last year.
Cordelia, a grotty picture, but any bids? ;D
Art Nouveau is quite delicate, I hope it increases soon.
Sentinel looks a good drop too, and finally dear little St. Anne's.
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Roland,
Photographs 14 and 15 show a different mark, pointed top to the inner mark, as the mark in 'Atkinsii'
Brian, I commented on Anthony's 'Lapwing' earlier and it seems to me that the marking on yours are a stronger green. Then again it may simply that your flower is in the sun.
I'll go to the bank and check on the account balance and may put in a bid on 'Cordelia' later on!!!
'Swanton' is a nice one, good big shape.
Paddy
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Paddy, what a difference a year makes....... ;D
I also like the looks of 'Wishbone' but think 'Swanton' is pure ugliness.
Paddy
'Swanton' is a nice one, good big shape.
Paddy
I was surprised in 2009 when you took such a dislike to Swanton so remembered your comment - glad to see that you have now seen sense. ;D 8)
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Brian, I commented on Anthony's 'Lapwing' earlier and it seems to me that the marking on yours are a stronger green. Then again it may simply that your flower is in the sun.
Paddy
The label on my 'Lapwing' has gone awol, so I wasn't sure if it was that.
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Home early from work. A couple of quick snaps.
1 - 'South Hayes'
2 - 'Fieldgate Forte'
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I would like to present you a galanthus that I have found in the wild among a clump of nivalis. I have named it "Marin" who is my youngest little son.
The outer petals have the nice puckered appearance that is found on some cultivars of G. plicatus (which is probably why Steve thought it was a plicatus). If you want to be sure of keeping your snowdrop, I strongly advise you to split your clump so you have bulbs in at least two separate locations in your garden. What is your locale, JP?
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Hallo Paddy
The top picture is just one big mixture of G. elwesii var. monostictus
all the Other pictures are different selections from the selection field
most of them will not be good enough
for the collection so I will plant them somewhere in the garden
Roland
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Paddy, what a difference a year makes....... ;D
I also like the looks of 'Wishbone' but think 'Swanton' is pure ugliness.
Paddy
'Swanton' is a nice one, good big shape.
Paddy
I was surprised in 2009 when you took such a dislike to Swanton so remembered your comment - glad to see that you have now seen sense. ;D 8)
I remained steadfast in the flexibility of my opinions. Perhaps, one photograph appealed to me more than another. I haven't grown 'Swanton' myself and am judging purely on the basis of photographs posted.
Paddy
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Thank you for the ikariae/woronowii details everyone! :D
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Hi Alan,
I live in Normandy.
You are right ! Soon I shall divide the clump for planting this galanthus in different places in my garden. I also have good friends who are galanthophiles*...and they will have soon Marin in their collection.
* Galanthophiles are not many in France. I only know Mark Brown who has a very big collection like 400 different galanthus...perhaps others persons ? I don't know.
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There were a lot of very nice snowdrop pic series, I saw last days here. Thank you to all.
Extrem slowly our season begins too.
One of the first flowering G. nivalis is GRÜNER SPLITTER. A type of G. nivalis virescens, which splits very good.
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Nice one, Hagen.
Usually the green markings on virescent snowdrops are towards the apex while yours are towards the base, something which gives a nice effect.
Why the name, "Splitter"? Because you can lift and divide the clump easily or because the spathe is split? Or maybe nothing like this at all?
Paddy
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Hi Paddy,
SPLITTER is a German word for a part of broken glass or mirror. A part of much more parts. You say in English to divide, to split. Is it so OK? My SPLITTER is in the middle of English and German and means a plant which divides very good. So you can have in a short time a lot of (plant)parts.
Lay a smile about my English. ;)
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Hi Paddy,
SPLITTER is a German word for a part of broken glass or mirror. A part of much more parts. You say in English to divide, to split. Is it so OK? My SPLITTER is in the middle of English and German and means a plant which divides very good. So you can have in a short time a lot of (plant)parts.
Lay a smile about my English. ;)
Perfect explanation. Many thanks, Hagen.
Paddy
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Hello to everyone, i did plant the rest of the small stock i got from my colleage just to check if they are allright. 95 % were exactly the same, 5 % a bit different.If Green Brush doesn't look good next year i send new ones!
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That offer is aceptable, thanks
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As asked, a closer photo of "Marin" :
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Hagen, A good name (and good explanation). 8)
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Here in Normandy we can find in the wild some interesting Galanthus. "Angélique" is one of those, "Ecusson d'Or" is another one...discovered by M.Brown. "Cowhouse Green" could be as "Flocon de neige"...
I have found a double one looking as "Pusey Tip Green" but taller.
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Hi JP (what should we call your name as?)
Thank you for the close up picture of 'Marin' - it is distinctive indeed as a nivalis. The collection I am trying to form is made up of 'distinctive' flowers and I hope in some years time that 'Marin' may make it to England. 8)
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Hi Kentgardener (too long...),
JP for Jean-Pierre. JP is OK.
I know well Kent where you live. I use to come and visit friends there.
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Greetings Jean-Pierre - welcome to SRGC. :)
My name is John - I had thought it was in my 'signature block' but noticed it wasn't so have now added this.
If you are in Medway again please get in touch and visit me too for tea and cake(s). 8)
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Some photos taken at the end of February for "Ecusson d'Or" and "Fuzz", at the moment for "Elfin"...
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Many thanks John ! The same if one day you visit Normandy.
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Home early from work. A couple of quick snaps.
1 - 'South Hayes'
2 - 'Fieldgate Forte'
Fieldgate Forte is beautiful, another addition to my very long green tip wants list.
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Hello to everyone, i did plant the rest of the small stock i got from my colleage just to check if they are allright. 95 % were exactly the same, 5 % a bit different.If Green Brush doesn't look good next year i send new ones!
Thank you for the clarification Gerard. Here's hoping :)
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Hi JP,
'Marin' certainly looks very good, lovely puckering on the outer segments.
Your 'Elfin' seems very well behaved - we had a brief discussion on its habit lately, how it holds its flower upright initially and how it hangs as the flower matures.
'Fuzz' is a funny one.
Paddy
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Sheila's Brush?? Is that a particularly spiky snowdrop?
Gail - Now how many galanthophiles have been searching the internet to find G. Sheila's Brush? :D
Sheila's Brush is a legendary annual storm that always seems to strike St. John's, Newfoundland on St. Patrick's Day. Usually we can count on some precipitation from it.
johnw
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There are so many beautiful green ones in this thread. The only greenish one I have is 'Greenish' and it is still quite slow to get going. I have one flower this year.
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Below are a few more 'greens' for Anthony's delectation, although my example of 'Pat Mason' only just makes it!
'Greenfinch' is slowly opening up and I prefer it in this state as to when it is fully open. I acquired 'Fiona Mackenzie' last year and is only just opening up. It looks very nice and hopefully it will prove to be robust.
SA0901 (shown as re-size Greatorex) is something I found when John Finch, Brian Ellis and I visited Greatorex's garden last year. I saw that John posted a picture of his bulb some time ago but mine is only just at the point where it is worth photographing now with me.
Kildare certainly qualifies as a 'green' and this has multiplied quite well with me after receiving a non-flowering bulb 2 years ago.
Last of my 'greens' for the moment is 'Big Boy'. It has nicely understated green tips which is something you can't say about the rest of the flower. It is huge and very impressive now that it is full flower.
I have also included a fine un-named flower from Richard at Benington Lordship. Although it doesn't have any green outers I include it here to show Richard that I haven't killed it since he was kind enough to let me have a bulb laste year ;D
Lastly is a photograph of another find of mine. I posted a photograph of the flower in the early stages of development already this month and the flowers have continued to expand nicely.
David
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David
Unless I have missed it, there is no picture of SA0901 ???
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SA0901 is something I found when John Finch, Brian Ellis and I visited Greatorex's garden last year. I saw that John posted a picture of his bulb some time ago but mine is only just at the point where it is worth photographing now with me.
I suspect the pix have got out of synch and that this one..
"re-size Greatorex" .... is the missing SAO901, since it is described as coming from Greatorex ..... :D
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I have also included a fine un-named flower from Richard at Benington Lordship. Although it doesn't have any green outers I include it here to show Richard that I haven't killed it since he was kind enough to let me have a bulb laste year
very healthy ;) looks lovely in a clump, it might have a name, soon...
you might also be pleased to hear your twin scale teaching skills had me chopping up a lot of bulbs last summer & the result is 400+ very healthy little plants this year :)
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David
Unless I have missed it, there is no picture of SA0901 ???
It is there but I have stupidly labelled it as re-sized Greatorex. Thanks for noticing ;)
David
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you might also be pleased to hear your twin scale teaching skills had me chopping up a lot of bulbs last summer & the result is 400+ very healthy little plants this year :)
Richard, I'm pleased to hear that I have helped out. Only 2 to 3 years to wait now before they flower!
The Diggories are doing well and one has flowered. The others were attacked by the pheasants and so no flowers this year.
David
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Back to Fullarton woods today in 15c sunshine - Spring at last? All the flowers were open and were a marvellous sight. We found several clumps of double-flowered varieties but have no idea what they are called. They were about 120mms. high. Excuse the pictures as they were taken with my little Coolpix and I had to get into contortions to get low enough to take them. Even then, I could not see the screen and had to guess. Suggestions as to name would be appreciated. I would have thought double-flowered Nivalis if there is such a thing. It makes me wonder what else there may be in there.
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Well the flower of the doubles looks like nivalis flore pleno and I think the leaves also, though that is harder to tell. Just don't ask me what I think of them!
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Tom, Lovely stretches of snowdrops and probably the double nivalis as you expected. Some, in the third photograph, are unusually tidy for G. nivalis flore pleno.
Paddy
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...Some, in the third photograph, are unusually tidy for G. nivalis flore pleno....
Oh you can find nice tidy ones but not nice tidy ones that come back the same the following year.
Actually, there is a patch growing locally that do seem to be consistently nice and tidy. The trouble is that they are nice, tidy and small. The less-than-perfectly-tidy nature of the typical double nivalis gives it a lot of volume.
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Some of the galanthus that I have found this year. Perhaps not interesting ???
The first one called "Fifine" is typic of the norman galanthus with such a spathe. This year, a well known english nurseryman found a yellow at the same place,I haven't seen it...
The second one looks like "Angélique" which was found in a wood close to where I live but with shorter inner tepals.
The fird one is similar to "Pusey" but taller.
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JP,
Three lovely snowdrops. You are very fortunate to live near a wood which has a good population of snowdrops, especially such special ones.
Paddy
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I particularly like the first 2 JP - very nice. 8) Good finds.
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Some of the galanthus that I have found this year. Perhaps not interesting
JP you underestimate them, very nice they are. Great to find them in the woods.
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Talking about green tips or stripes.
I was this morning checking the snowdrops and selected again from the nivalis Maximus stock quite a lot with green markings.
And the luckiest finding was a 4x4 petal Maximus and a 4x4 patel green tip.
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With the sun of these last days, flowers of galanthus are dying...
Mrs Wrightson's double was quite well this morning.
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Well I actually managed a whole day out in the garden today,weather not quite as good as yesterday,but I did take a few pictures,and now it has just started raining,we do need it as I have used over 60 gallons out of the water butts already
Mrs Wrightsons Double
Imbolc
Marjorie Brown .........spreading well
Friar Tuck
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Chas
Healthy-looking clumps. Its great to have scarce varieties but even better to grow well the ones you have.
Marjorie Brown seems to be a really good do-er.
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Yes Steve,Marjorie Brown is avery good do er,I have another clump elsewhere in the garden which is doing as well as the one pictured
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Charles - Your Mrs. Wrightson's Double is splendid.
I noticed a rash of green-tipped nivalis this year. I wonder why?
johnw
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Green tipped G. nivalis can be so wonderful, John.
Here is WELLENSPIEL in the beginning of flower.
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If you want to see much more green, than GRÜNER ATEMRÄUBER could be the favorite.
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How do you think about yellow?
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Here is a flower with a hint of orange, really. IRRLICHT
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DANUBE STAR is always a pleasure
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Last not least SCHMALHANS IM GRÜNEN a G nivalis with a lot of green
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Some fantastic snowdrops there, Hagen, most of which we don't get to see in this country.
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Alan, a few bulbs of mine arrive your island every year. Really.
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Hi Hagan
A very nice selection of snowdrops as always 8) . Good to see that the German season will keep us entertained again when the England drops are going past their best due to the recent warm days.
"GRÜNER ATEMRÄUBER" is a nice shape and colour.
Your "creamy kind of BLONDE INGE" - is it really cream in colour? It's a similar shape to 'Chadwicks cream'.
"IRRLICHT" is such a deep yellow - like the yoke of free range eggs.
"SCHMALHANS IM GRÜNEN" is a nice light shade of green.
It is also interesting that your 'Danube Star' is already open - mine is still going upwards and hasn't dropped yet.
Looking forward to your next set of photographs. :P
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Alan, a few bulbs of mine arrive your island every year. Really.
Yes, I do believe it, Hagen, but I haven't seen any of them on my visits to other people's snowdrop gardens.
Actually, come to think of it, what I really need to do I somehow get over to see your garden! That is, unless its location is a closely-guarded secret like Joe Sharman's (as he said on a recent short radio program on snowdrops).
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Danube Star looks like Gloria. What do you think of this ? What are the differences between them ?
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These were worth waiting for after such a long time with snow Hagen!
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Very dark green on the outer petals and double and almost spiky
I had a phonecall while i noticed i had forgotten to upload the latest photos but here they are! ;D
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I don't understand Gerard ???
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Talking about Yellow :o
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I am so pleased to see your snowdrops are beginning Hagen, ours will soon have gone over so we get a double bite of the cherry :D
Some super cultivars yet again, many of which I hadn't seen, I must re-visit your website.
Cheers
Brian
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Snowdrop mania hits USA
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Is the last yellow a cow pat / horse sh1t yellow?
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Danube Star looks like Gloria. What do you think of this ? What are the differences between them ?
If you look at the photos on the excellent site www.galanthus-online.de they look identical.
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Mark it was already yellow before the horsemanure!
Here are some others finds from today!
A yellow Flore Pleno and 2 cuty's with a extra spathe in white
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Danube Star looks like Gloria. What do you think of this ? What are the differences between them ?
If you look at the photos on the excellent site www.galanthus-online.de they look identical.
If you look at John's photo from the RHS Halls and compare it with galanthus-online I think you can see the differences. Danube Star has longer, thinner, almost strap-like segments and they are also slightly more evenly sized while in Gloria the inner segments are slightly shorter and also have a small sinus. Having said that I would be very happy to have either of them.
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Danube Star looks like Gloria. What do you think of this ? What are the differences between them ?
If you look at the photos on the excellent site www.galanthus-online.de they look identical.
If you look at John's photo from the RHS Halls and compare it with galanthus-online I think you can see the differences. Danube Star has longer, thinner, almost strap-like segments and they are also slightly more evenly sized while in Gloria the inner segments are slightly shorter and also have a small sinus. Having said that I would be very happy to have either of them.
Gordon
Well spotted. I bought Danube Star at last year's Autumn Show South from Bob & Rannveig Wallis. At the time I thought the bulb looked tiny and did not expect it to flower this year. To my surprise and delight I have two flowers and they are as the photo - will post mine later.
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Isnt Gloria is an albino Angelique from the same wood?
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I think that you are right Mark, both found in the same wood not far from where I live.
I could know with better precision by asking Mark Brown who found them or got them from a norman gardener.
Thanks for your answers.
I could take a photo of Gloria this afternoon if you want. That Gloria is coming from Mark's garden.
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Some more from today
Armilde
Ben Warrick
Beth Chatto
Castle tall
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Some more
elwesii green on the outer petal
Daglingworth a real beauty!
Hippolyta still a good double!
Irish Green
A 4 petaled in and outer nivalis Maximus
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some more
just nivalis single
nivalis Carpathian Giant
poculoform plicatus
Scone Palace
Walrus
White Kay
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poculoform plicatus
Is that 'E. A. Bowles' Gerard? It looks very similar. :P
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I've not noticed before - but 'Beth Chatto' is a nice looking drop - I can see why Brian Ellis has been searching it out for the last few years. :)
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Hagen, I am ravished with the beauty of your snowdrops, and the photographs you took of them are as stunning as they always are .
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If you're in the UK you've just missed Jo on Gardeners World!
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No, Alan, we saw her... she was great .... and so was her really lovely garden.
Fabulous willows!
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Lovely garden Jo! Just wish they had given you the whole 30 minute programme; it would have been nice to have a tour of your cyclamen collection. Agree with Maggi that the willows are stunning.
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Bulb Log Tour goes to visit Jo! ;D
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Lovely garden Jo! Just wish they had given you the whole 30 minute programme; it would have been nice to have a tour of your cyclamen collection. Agree with Maggi that the willows are stunning.
I'll second that! A whole programme of Jo's garden would have been a great bit of gardening television - much better than what they filled the rest of the programme with. Cliche after cliche and .... I can't be bothered to dissect all the cr*p.
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Stunning! I bet everyone will want one like that...!
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Just a few shots of nivalis Flore Plena in the garden today. Common but vigorous and always healthy.
johnw
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Lastly showing the variation to be found in a bag of nivalis Viridapice.
johnw - 14c and sunny, unprecedented weather for March.
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Nice, John, but you've lost a year. This is the 2009 thread.
edit by Maggi.... not not it isn't!! ;)
edit by Alan....well it was!! Thanks for sorting this out, Maggi.
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Well at least I wasn't in Crocus. :D
Perhaps Maggi can straighten me out.
johnw
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Well at least I wasn't in Crocus. :D
Perhaps Maggi can straighten me out.
johnw
What can I tell you....... ;D ::) :) ;) ;)
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Spent an enjoyable 8 hours at the AGS Rainham show today. Only one snowdrop on show ::) but it was a very nice potfull of 'Virescens' 8) (it got a well deserved 'first')
A great day - met loads of interesting people, including the two Lucs. ;D
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Mmm, that virescens is nice!
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A question - or I may just be musing online...
On my way back from Beth Chatto's on Thursday I stopped at another nursery and they were selling pots of snowdrops five bulbs for £2.50. They were labelled Galanthus nivalis but definitely weren't, most pots contained a mix of different forms, some were clearly G. gracilis or at least hybrids of, there were a few bright green leaves and some which caught my eye as they were perfect miniature, fairy-like snowdrops, just 4-5cm tall with applanate leaves only just emerging.
I really wanted one of the fairies but given that they weren't what they were labelled as, thought that they were probably wild dug bulbs and therefore illegal so didn't like to buy them. The owner wasn't around and I didn't feel up to asking the salesgirl about origins - I've had fairly convoluted conversations there before about incorrectly named reticulatas.
I don't think there is a question after all but I'd be interested in other people's thoughts.
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Good evening, just a few pictures of snowdrops I founded today in the nature. I was very surprised I have found a yellow form (f. lutescens) in nature. Igor
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Good evening, just a few pictures of snowdrops I founded today in the nature. I was very surprised I have found a yellow form (f. lutescens) in nature. Igor
Igor - You must be pleased. Such a rewarding day you've had, three in one day is pretty impressive.
johnw
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All three very pretty drops Igor. Well done for seeing them in nature. You have an observant eye. 8)
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Yup...... it's a snowdrop. ;D
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What can I tell you....... ;D ::) :) ;) ;)
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Almost nothing at my age, thoroughly inattentive these days.
johnw
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What can I tell you....... ;D ::) :) ;) ;)
Almost nothing at my age, thoroughly inattentive these days.
johnw
[/quote]What? Who said that?
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Igor, you need a big portion of luck find such a good yellow. Congratulation
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Our short season goes on, too fast. Today it rains, so I`m beginning with WELLENSPIEL
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PAUSBACK comes frome the VIRIDAPICE-group, but has no scharlockii-blood
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HUGH MACKENZIE much green
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DREISPORN without inner tepales (mostly)
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YVONNE HAY a very good elwesii
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FIELDGATE FORTE looks good
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STREIFEN-WEH some plants are already in GB too. You can see the W on the inner segments?
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Hagan
WELLENSPIEL is nice flower - very distinctive in it's looks. One that can be easily spotted from a distance. 8)
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FEDERSCHWINGEN it`s a really important cultivar
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not important but nice
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my most lovely galanthus this year. So you have to see it the second time.
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Sometimes BLONDE INGE is funky
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Morning John, WELLENSPIEL is one of the highlights in my collection.
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Very, very nice ones Hagen!
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A wonderful selection with such good photos Hagen. I wonder though why G niv elw Klein is considered 'not important' as it certainly is 'nice' ?
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Super pictures Hagen I think you should have finished with Wellenspiel - we say saving the best to the last ;D
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Fantastic, Hagen. My Blonde Inge is doing the same this year. The half yellow half green is fun. Do you breed these wonderful varieties yourself or are they found in wild populations?
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Excellent snowdrops Hagen :o
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Gerard, Mark, RR thank you all for the very positive feedback. Brian, I haven`t arrived the End. ;) Anne, the most plants are hybrids or mutants and come from friendly gardens (my only possible answer for the fantastic Britain and German prices of galanthus).
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PAUSBACK comes frome the VIRIDAPICE-group, but has no scharlockii-blood
Now this is a lovely snowdrop, very fine outline shape. 8)
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PAUSBACK comes frome the VIRIDAPICE-group, but has no scharlockii-blood
Now this is a lovely snowdrop, very fine outline shape. 8)
:o :o :o Maggi - you never cease to amaze me. ;D
I am glad to see that you are starting to recognise that they are not all just green and white flowers. ;D :)
I agree, 'Pausback' is beautiful - but in selecting my 'top of Hagans posted drops' I plumped for 'Wellenspiel' as the best with 'Pausback' sharing a joint second with 'creamy kind of blonde inge' that I need to see in the flesh to make my mind up - Germany for me next March???..... ;D
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Maggi and John, I`m glad, that you see PAUSBACK not only as another VIRIDAPICE. It looks unusually globular and the tipps are intensive green.
The creamy kind of.....!!!! May be, if I had CHADWICK CREAM or the new orange tipped snowdrops, I would think a little bit other. The inner segments show cream and the yellow is gold. You can see, I love this drop :).
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All the snowdrops you showed us are absolutely wonderful and distinct. Thank you, Hagen.
Maybe 'Wellenspiel' is the most unusual one and very aptly named, as it means playing of the waves.
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All the snowdrops you showed us are absolutely wonderful and distinct. Thank you, Hagen.
Maybe 'Wellenspiel' is the most unusual one and very aptly named, as it means playing of the waves.
By chance is there a G. 'Glöckchenspiel' as well? ;)
johnw
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Hagen,you have some wonderfull snowdrops
Here are a few more from the garden today
Primrose Warburg
Helen Tomlinson
Twinkletoes
Doncaster Double Charmer
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I've been away for a few days, days of great celebration, eating, drinking, dancing and great company and now my poor old body is sore but I am very happy - my eldest son was married on Friday.
While I was away there have been some outstandingly beautiful snowdrop photographs posted and it has been a delight to sit with my cup of coffee and cake and view them all at my leisure, a great treat and enjoyment.
I am especially delighted to see Hagen's garden has into great bloom and delighted to see the many, many beauties he has posted. His snowdrops are always amazing.
Paddy - now heading off for an early night to bed in hopes of recovering.
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Rob, my platyphyllus in a pot is out now, but that in the garden is just a blank patch of soil. Here is G. ikariae. Note how different the leaves are from woronowii. I didn't know 'Sir Edward Elgar' (capital fellow) had no notch. Not sure I still have it?
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Guten Abend Thomas, ich bin immer wieder froh, Dich auf dieses Parkett gezogen zu haben. Es ist wirklich der beste Schneeglöckchendisput. Seit dem Besuch bei Dir weiß ich Deine Erfahrung besser zu schätzen.
A short disput between te German Galanthophiles. Thank you for translation WELLENSPIEL.
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My Sir Edward Elgar is the same http://www.snowdropinfo.com/elwesii%20sir%20edward%20elgar.html (http://www.snowdropinfo.com/elwesii%20sir%20edward%20elgar.html)
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a few more from me, can anyone id this one, it was supposed to be nivalis 'bohemia white', but its obviously not! its inner marking is not normal though. applanate foliage would suggest its a nivalis or nivalis hybrid. it could be tatjiana but i though that one had virescent outers.
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd120/robsorchids/DSCF1561.jpg)
Rob ,
be cool 8)
You receive received this plant from my orginal stock of 'Bohemia White' - so you can be shure it is true
I have just looked with my torch for my plants - they have also in this year green dots
This plants are always a bit variable each year
My stock comes from the finder direct - thats not a hybrid
Please look for the earlier pics of 'Tatjana' - they are different
Hans
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All the snowdrops you showed us are absolutely wonderful and distinct. Thank you, Hagen.
Maybe 'Wellenspiel' is the most unusual one and very aptly named, as it means playing of the waves.
By chance is there a G. 'Glöckchenspiel' as well? ;)
johnw
I think, we still have to find and name that in Germany, if Hagen does not already have it in his youngest hand ... :)
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Guten Abend Thomas, ich bin immer wieder froh, Dich auf dieses Parkett gezogen zu haben. Es ist wirklich der beste Schneeglöckchendisput. Seit dem Besuch bei Dir weiß ich Deine Erfahrung besser zu schätzen.
A short disput between te German Galanthophiles. Thank you for translation WELLENSPIEL.
Danke, Hagen :) Tatsächlich wäre ich ohne dich gar nicht hier. :)
It is he who brought me to this forum. And it is actually the best place for talking about snowdrops.
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Here is my Galanthus ikariae.
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Somehow I had in it my head that 'Hans Guck in die Luft' was nivalis but clearly it is plicate.
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Guten Abend Thomas, ich bin immer wieder froh, Dich auf dieses Parkett gezogen zu haben. Es ist wirklich der beste Schneeglöckchendisput. Seit dem Besuch bei Dir weiß ich Deine Erfahrung besser zu schätzen.
A short disput between te German Galanthophiles. Thank you for translation WELLENSPIEL.
Danke, Hagen :) Tatsächlich wäre ich ohne dich gar nicht hier. :)
It is he who brought me to this forum. And it is actually the best place for talking about snowdrops.
Ohhh....... wie schade: ist es nur die beste Wahl für das Gespräch über Schneeglöckchen, nicht auch anderen Themen ? :-\ ;)
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Of course, Maggi, it is :) If I only had a rock garden, an alpine house and more time and space for narcissi, croci ... ... ... :)
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If I only had a rock garden, an alpine house and more time and space for narcissi, croci ... ... ... :)
Ahh....... more time....yes, that would be good for all of us! 8)
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Snowdrops are looking after themselves. That saves a lot of time ... :)
Last year there was a new and stunning G. plicatus subsp. byzantinus in my garden. This year it appeared again with one flower and I had a vague hope this could be a chance seedling of my own. But this week I found the label again, deep in the soil and a bit aside. It is Galanthus plicatus subsp. byzantinus 'Patrica Ann', received from Dr R. Mackenzie's Snowdrop Company in March 2005. There was no sign of life the following year and I forgot about it. But I realizied a first leaf three years ago, considering it as a seedling. Well, there is always hope ... :)
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Morning JohnW, if the name GLÖCKCHENSPIEL is free for using, I will looking for the right galanthus. It must be small but globular??? And a good grower.
Would you like the example? ;)
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Still in flower on Friday (19th March) and looking very fresh and clean were these stands at Skipton Castle in West Yorkshire.
SKIPTON CASTLE
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A few days before, John the kentgardener showed us a pot full of galanthus nivalis virescens. Wonderful. Here are some different types of gnv.
At first this is a very long and green flower
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Very fine green stripes on the outer segments, but no children. It`s an ignorant of splitting >:(.
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new and good
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The best globular flower with a long pedicel, no increasing.
GRÜNE PENDELKUGEL (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5090.0;attach=203141)
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GRÜNE WALDFEE. A different soft yellow-green (Maigrün).
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GRÜNER SPLITTER is a good increaser and has big flowers.
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with a little luck ....
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My goodness Hagen. 8)
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Hagen :o
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Lovely Hagen. :o :o :o
Eric
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Brian, all the best to the last ;).
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Hagen,
Your snowdrops were brilliant from start to finish.
Paddy
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Brian,
you've been blowing us all away with these beauties! I really love 'Wellenspiel' (which I would translate as 'The Wave Game', sells better! ;D ), but 'Grüner Waldfee' and ' Grüner Splitter' are simply wonderful. Actually, they are all pretty wonderful! I'ld not seen anything like this by Günther W.
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Jamie, Du findest bestimmt stets die passendsten Übersetzungen und Interpretationen. May I ask you all time? Nicht nur bei Taglilien!
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Anything you want, Hagen, translations are such fun. Bin ich da.
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Hagen - We sit here in stunned silence! :o
I'm sure whichever snowdrop you choose it will be the Bösendorfer of Glöckchenspielen.
johnw
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Am I correct in thinking that snowdrops like 'Angelique' are not poculiform as their inners are not like their outers?
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Am I correct in thinking that snowdrops like 'Angelique' are not poculiform as their inners are not like their outers?
My understanding is that the definition gets stretched to include snowdrops with inners that have some of the characteristics of the outer petals. Whether this is strictly correct or not, I wouldn't like to say.
By the way, AFAIK there isn't a name for the inverse where the outer petals take on the characteristics of the inners. I wonder why not?
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Hagan, I am GREEN with envy! :P ;D
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No problem John, I`m also only a green boy ;)
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Are you still saving some for us Hagen, i think you do ;D
Here's one very dark green, spikey like, double i found on friday and a nivalis with extreme long flowers and upright pedicel and a bit limeygreen.
And the elwesii with the green on the bridge to the ovary and some greentipped nivalis that shows like modern art.
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Yes Gerard, the show must go on. Intresting to see Your GREEN SHOULDER. I will show you some minutes later the same type of mine (GRÜNE NAGELSPITZEN).
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Hagen, i cant remember i have seen this before.
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Gerard, here is a galanthus looking like Your GREEN SHOULDER. It will get the name GRÜNE NAGELSPITZEN.
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You never fail to surprise us, Hagen. :o
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Galanthus platyphyllus, well out now in a pot, but still below the soil surface in the garden.
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Galanthus platyphyllus, well out now in a pot, but still below the soil surface in the garden.
Very nice. Mine outside had a single flower which a slug took a liking to :( Ah well next year
Always one of the last to flower G Fieldgate Superb a very elegant snowdrop
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Always one of the last to flower G Fieldgate Superb a very elegant snowdrop
Nice pic, and a lovely clump. I always puzzle over the exact differences between Fieldgate Superb and Fieldgate Fugue. To me, they look different when they're at different stages of flower development, but if compared at the same stage of development, they look very much the same (unless my clumps are mis-named).
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Very nice group of FIELDGATE SUPERB, Ian. Now I have to go to look for mine. I forgot this nice plant. Ohhh
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Always one of the last to flower G Fieldgate Superb a very elegant snowdrop
Nice pic, and a lovely clump. I always puzzle over the exact differences between Fieldgate Superb and Fieldgate Fugue. To me, they look different when they're at different stages of flower development, but if compared at the same stage of development, they look very much the same (unless my clumps are mis-named).
Martin I don't have Fugue so can't really comment also the pictures in the book are quite similar but I know that Superb is reckoned to be one of the last to flower and it seems to last into April each year.
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I like your green'uns very much Hagen, thanks for showing us.
I think there are going to be many surprises coming from the continent as far as snowdrops are concerned.
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galanthus alpinus (native species)
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A nice species well grown.
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Nice platyphyllus you have Anthony looks like they are bulking up too!
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Nice platyphyllus you have Anthony looks like they are bulking up too!
Yes Gerard, it looks quite vigorous. I now need to find someone who has it from a different source to do a swap. The ones in the garden are just now poking the first green tip through the soil.
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Here is a pic of mine and from the last elwesii flowering now Snowwhite
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'Snowwhite' has a lovely moustache! ;D
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Coming to the end of the snowdrop season here, I'm afraid, with the rain battering those still in the garden.
Paddy
Baxendale's Late - a good one, very upright and lengthening the season though Martin is inclined to disparage it.
Beth Chatto - this has been infuriatingly slow to bulk up.
Captain Dunstan's Snowdrop - simply a name of convenience
Cicely Hall
Emerald Isle - green markings on outer segments seems to be very light this year. A very slow snowdrop to bulk up, hates being disturbed but there is the good news that it comes true from seed as it is a clonal variety - I quote an Irish snowdrop enthusiast, a specialist in genetics, who has grown lots from seed and all have come true.
Lady Ainsworth - another name of convenience
Melanie Broughton
Tatjana
Trym
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Nice drops Paddy. Mine Beth Chatto is bulking up well although its the last one left
Anthony i took the pic before the daily shave! ;D
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The marks on Paddy's 'Beth Chatto' are very different from the marks on Gerard's snowdrops ???
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There was some hiccup with 'Beth Chatto', in that when I enquired into buying one from them they said it had seeded out and wouldn't sell one until it was in flower. Then they put it on ebay and, much as I wanted one, I was disinclined to bid some ridiculous price to get it. The plant I first saw in a massive clump in Rod Leeds garden was much more like Gerard's - short and stocky with a big flower. Perhaps yours is not happy where it is growing Paddy?
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There was some hiccup with 'Beth Chatto', in that when I enquired into buying one from them they said it had seeded out and wouldn't sell one until it was in flower. Then they put it on ebay and, much as I wanted one, I was disinclined to bid some ridiculous price to get it. The plant I first saw in a massive clump in Rod Leeds garden was much more like Gerard's - short and stocky with a big flower. Perhaps yours is not happy where it is growing Paddy?
Brian
Maybe Gerard's plant is happier in growth than Paddy's, but what about the inner mark.
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Coming to the end of the snowdrop season here, I'm afraid, with the rain battering those still in the garden.
Paddy
I don't know how you do it, Paddy. Your snowdrop season started ahead of mine yet is still going when all my snowdrops (including late flowering ones; Trym for example) have gone over.
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There was some hiccup with 'Beth Chatto', in that when I enquired into buying one from them they said it had seeded out and wouldn't sell one until it was in flower. Then they put it on ebay and, much as I wanted one, I was disinclined to bid some ridiculous price to get it. The plant I first saw in a massive clump in Rod Leeds garden was much more like Gerard's - short and stocky with a big flower. Perhaps yours is not happy where it is growing Paddy?
Brian, I asked Rod about 'Beth Chatto' earlier this year and he said that what he was growing as 'Beth Chatto' was not the correct one.
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The Beth Chatto gardens lost the original stock from this nice plicatus and took another stock for that name. The one i have got is from the original stock, this is what has been told me when i received it.
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Some of my snowdrops are still not at their best: 'Trumps' for instance. 'Baxendale's late is just coming out now and platyphyllus in the garden is just above the soil surface with no flower buds even visible yet.
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Just reading now the comments on G. 'Beth Chatto' above. I received a bulb from the Beth Chatto nursery in October 2005 (1 bulb @ £12.50). I now have one flower and one offshoot. As Brian says above it is obviously not very happy with me. It seems to be in good health but I think I may move it to a different situation in the garden.
I note Arthur's comments that the markings on my 'Beth Chatto' are different to those on Gerard's and they most certainly are, completely different. The illustration in the snowdrop book does nothing to help. The description of the inner segment markings reads, "marking covering 7/8 of segment, a basal triangle narrowly joined in middle to an apical V with expanded rounded arm-ends." I will try to get a better photograph when the flower opens a bit more if at all possible as rain is forecast for the coming days here.
Alan, we enjoyed a good season here this year. Those that came earlier lasted ages because of the cold weather but I note that those in flower at present are going over very quickly. G. 'Cicely Hall' is really the only one that is in its prime at the moment. Even 'Baxendale's Late' which only opened a few days ago is beginning to flag already.
We really do need you folk with the later season on the continent to keep us entertained with your photographs from now on.
Paddy
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Here's some taken today.
'The Linns'
'Mighty Atom'
'Warham' (platyphyllus just visible as green shoots behind)
'Handel'
'Yvonne Hay' (note the huge supervolute leaves)
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Anthony,
Your snowdrop photographs certainly illustrate the differences in our conditions. Such snowdrops are well over here. Lovely selection. 'Yvonne Hay' is certainly a good one.
Paddy
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Galanthus nivale - an Austrian wild form
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An excellent snowdrop, Hans.
Paddy
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Beauty Hans
when you have spare ones I would like to swap
Roland
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Brilliant find, Hans
I dont understand photos appearing now of Yvonne Hay. I photographed mine on December 13th 2009!
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I dont understand photos appearing now of Yvonne Hay. I photographed mine on December 13th 2009!
It's quite simple Mark, your season is well ahead of ours, whilst you enjoy your first snowdrops we are still waiting for an appearance above ground :'(, when yours are finished we are still going strong ;D
You are helped by warm currents in the sea, we have to contend with the bitterly cold North Sea.
C'est la vie :)
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And what should I say, Mark? :)
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Galanthus nivale - an Austrian wild form
A great looking snowdrop Hans, does is spread well?
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Brilliant find, Hans
I dont understand photos appearing now of Yvonne Hay. I photographed mine on December 13th 2009!
Photos appearing now because it was taken yesterday Mark. It has been out for a while, but virtually no snowdrops that are not called reginae-olgae flower in my garden in December.
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Here are some green forms of Galanthus nivalis,
kind regards, Wolfgang
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Wolfgang,
A wonderful selection, very nicely marked and shapely. Lovely to see them.
Paddy
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Wolfgang - excellent snowdrops.
I hope the snow falling on the UK and Ireland is not as bad as forecast
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Ian Christie, just off the phone, says the snow is just starting at Kirriemuir in Angus :P
He is due in Aberdeen on Wednesday evening to give a workshop on propagation to the local SRGC Group ...... surely that won't be a snowy evening? :o
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Ian Christie, just off the phone, says the snow is just starting at Kirriemuir in Angus :P
He is due in Aberdeen on Wednesday evening to give a workshop on propagation to the local SRGC Group ...... surely that won't be a snowy evening? :o
Oh yes it will be and don't call me Shirley.
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The last of the winter wine for me:- Fieldgate Forte
John(M)
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A gorgeous snowdrop, John.
A good one for you to finish on.
Paddy
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Still have Sandhill Gate flowering here.................if it is nice tomorrow :D will take a picture
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Please do, Chas. It's a beautiful snowdrop.
Paddy
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A gorgeous snowdrop, John.
A good one for you to finish on.
Paddy
I agree Paddy. 8)
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Yes it is a strong good snowdrop and hopefully will finish flowering without being covered by snow.
John(M)
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Well here is a picture of my Sandhill Gate,not looking so good today ,after a night of rain
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this clump is coming my way i'm sorry about the rain splattered flowers but the day before i had cleaned all the leaves away to photo it to see it properly and low and behold it rained like mad i love its small statue and large wide leaves.There is no name the lady whos garden it is in doesn't recall it having a name but i'm not so bothered it will always remind me of her.
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Well here is a picture of my Sadhill Gate,not looking so good today ,after a night of rain
Tee hee, still a lovely poc to have Chas
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Davey could it be the good form of elwesii Marjorie Brown?
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Well here is a picture of my Sadhill Gate,not looking so good today ,after a night of rain
Tee hee, still a lovely poc to have Chas
In weather like this is likely is more SAD than Sand!! ;D
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this clump is coming my way i'm sorry about the rain splattered flowers but the day before i had cleaned all the leaves away to photo it to see it properly and low and behold it rained like mad i love its small statue and large wide leaves.There is no name the lady whos garden it is in doesn't recall it having a name but i'm not so bothered it will always remind me of her.
Davey, it is always lovely to have plants to remind one of friends... if the plant comes with big flowers and nice fat leaves, so much the better!! ;) :)
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Thanks Brian I have now edited it :D
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I rather like it as it was Chas ;D
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Just a few Galanthus elwesii var. elwesii greentip
Roland
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Hi everybody
The seasons just about over for us in Suffolk.
Here are some photos of some strange spiky type doobles found in woods near us a few days ago.
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and a few more doubles from the same place
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Excuse the spelling of 'doubles'. Must be end of season blues or too many g & t's!
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You can never have too many G & T's Michael 8)
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Exciting finds Michael - they are 'love them or hate them' flowers - and I love them ;D
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While many Snowdrop fiends are lamenting the passing of the season in their gardens.... or regretting that the awful waether in the UK at the moment is ruining the last days of their flowers it may be comforting to take heart from tha post here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5093.msg145679#msg145679 .... where Aleksey shows us that his snowdrop season is just beginning in Moscow!! :)
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they are lovely michael the last one i thought really stood out.
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Those are strange and wonderful snowdrops, Michael, a great find. And I was thinking recently that you had not posted on the forum for a while, welcome back.
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Davey could it be the good form of elwesii Marjorie Brown?
What do you mean 'the good form'??
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Davey could it be the good form of elwesii Marjorie Brown?
What do you mean 'the good form'??
Once bitten, Anne?
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Hello snowdroppers! Here some pics from Ukraine of my spring snowdrop holyday ;D I like the pure Galanthus species:
G. alpinus, Armenia
G. alpinus, NW Transcaucasus, Russia
G. angustifolius, Dubrava, Russia
G. angustifolius from Kiev BG (sent them by Yuri Koss in 1950)
G. artjuschenkoae, N Armenia
G. bortkewitschianus, from Naltchik BG
G. cabardensis from locus classicus, Kabardino-Balkaria
G. caucasicus from Kabardino-Balkaria
G. koenenianus
G. nivalis, Central Ukraine
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two G. plicatus forms collected in Crimea
G. schaoricus, Georgia (G. gracilis in back, Turkey)
G. woronowii, Kiev BG
L. vernum, French Jura
L. vernum ssp. carpathicum, E Carpathians
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Dimitri,
A wonderful selection of snowdrops. It is unusual to see so many species together in one posting as we more usually have the cultivars here in the west. Great to see them and to see them growing so well with you.
Great posting, Paddy
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Some I would give my eye teeth for, if I had any left! ;D
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Really interesting to see where they have come from originally and to see such a diver snowdrop collection in your great photos, Dimitri, thanks 8)
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Thanks, guys! So it is as usually snowdrops bloom at me all together :)
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Great to see them as ours are now going over, Dimitri. I particularly like your G.cabardensis, a fine shape. 8)
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Thanks, Ragged Robin! Yes - snowdrop species are my passion! ;D
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Thanks, Brian! Yes, I think this species must be hold separate from G. lagodechianus s.s. Just yesterday I was invited in Kiev University BG to identify snowdrop species and there I saw quiet tiny G. lagodechianus clumps of unknown origin with very graceful flowers.
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Yes, I think this species must be hold separate from G. lagodechianus s.s.
I must agree Dimitri, they are quite distinct from the lagodechianus I grow.
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and the last two species for today
G. gracilis, Turkey (but I didn't agree with A. Davis that turkish plants should be called G. gracilis initially described from Bulgaria)
G. elwesii Giant form, Turkey
G. elwesii var. maxima (Velen.) G. Beck. (=G. elwesii Hook. x graecus Orph. ex Boiss.) from Odessa region and Bessarabia (according to Z. Artjushenko)
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Excellent selection. I now know my angustifolius is wrong. To me it looks like ordinary nivalis. Bought from a good source!
I would like you opinions on this plicatus seedling.
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Mark, I could suppose that it is very difficult to see a difference between real G. angustifolius (it exists 2 form of it with clear applanate vernation on N Caucasus: with leaves 2-5 mm width and 7-10 mm width, - I have the both from wild!) and minor forms of G. nivalis. So Z. Artjushenko in her monograph erroneously refered Koss' species into G. nivalis ssp. angustifolius. But the last is more close to G. caucasicus indeed.
It is not plicatus seedlings - it is forms of pure plicatus find by me in Crimea in wild, some of them has enormous flowers like on this photo, sorry for bad quality.
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Mark, there is too an anatomical future that really differs angustifolius from nivalis: the last has on cross section when microscoping the good developped air cavities (but not so enormous like in G. ikariae!), and G. angustifolius hasn't at all these cavities in mesophyll tissue.
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I'll take photos of the leaves of my plant later.
Just realised I didnt post the photo of the plicatus seedling
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Wow Mark what a fab photo of your plicatus seedling - the detail is like HD ;D
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I have seen a plicatus seedling from Harold Mc Bride very similar to that one, Mark.
Paddy
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Same source Paddy
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I cant remember who gave me the photo of elwesii Wishbone for my web site. Can you PM me please?
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A picture from today. Here the first nivalis and the last. A plena cultivar from may grandfathers garden. Starts often February and blooms till now. :D
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My last Galanthus nivalis viridapice
a long spiky selection
Roland
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Why do you come so late with your pics to our forum Axel??? Willkommen bei den Antianonymikern, Du warst mir bisher in diesem Galanthusareal noch nicht aufgefallen, freut mich also.
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Roland, Galanthus nivalis Scharlockii can look very different. Yours look very good. I have gnomes and monsters ;).
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Hagen
I bought 2000 Galanthus nivalis viridapice mixed as a leftover Duch grown
I don't think they are Scharlockii's
Roland
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Roland, you showed us a classical SCHARLOCKII with a long divided spathe. What should I say???
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The question is than what is the difference between the two
or suddenly I have a lot of sharlockii's
Roland
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Roland, yes its a question of spathe! If you have two little green leaves, then you should have SCHARLOCKII. If you have a "normal" not divided spathe but the green tips, then you have types of VIRIDAPICE.
If you have 2000 different SCHARLOCKIIS, then you are a winner
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No they are different
I send you high resolution pictures so you can see the difference
Roland
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You have a mix of Scharlockii, Viridipice and maybe some Warei
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Do I just hear somebody offering some spare time for sorting out
Roland
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Roland, it is, like Mark wrote. You have all: SCHARLOCKII, VIRIDAPICE and WAREI too.
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Thanks Mark and Hagen
seems a lot of work to do next month
Roland
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The last will stick out most. ;D Thank you for the welcome, I have a lot of no name galanthus. My goal was to find clones which sow themselves. This plicatus below were near the house of my wives mother I haven't detected them for now more than 30 years. :P
Three weeks ago I found here in Germany a old garden full of Galanthus plicatus (which I never have seen before). The house to this garden was a former hospital built in the 19th century. There were thousands of seedlings in a neglected part of the garden. Most had only green tips. 3 flowers were different. Only one was near enough at the fence.
No other Galanthus were in this garden or near to it, only lots of Leucojum.
They were very tall plants.
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a new and apparently last portion of this year drops blooms:
G. elwesii var. monostictus
G. plicatus - selected form with 1 apical + 2 basal spots, Crimea
G. plicatus - selected form with very broad leaf margins, Crimea
G. platyphyllus, Georgian material
G. lagodechianus, true plants from Fomin's BG, Kiev, photo - Nikita Peregrim
G. nivalis, Ukrainian material - Kiev region
G. schaoricus leaf in morning - the phenomenon of g u t t a t i o n - the appearance of drops of xylem sap on the tips or edges of leaves of some vascular plants.