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Title: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: wooden shoe on January 12, 2010, 06:38:11 PM
Hi there,

I have some seedlings of Cyrtanthus epiphyticus and I don't really know how to treat them. From the picture from Rogan Roth on page 5 I see that they live on straight rocks under a mountain river in Drakensberg. Circumstances which are very much unlike Dutch circumstances. The seeds were sold as being hardy to zone 7 which sounds a bit optimistic.
Has anyone experience with this species? What about moisture and soil? Is it evergreen or does it needs a rest period?

Thank you,

Rob Luiken, Nederland
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on January 12, 2010, 06:46:39 PM
Welcome, Rob!
While it is always useful to know where plants grow in their natural habitat, it must be remembered that it is usually impossible to recreate ALL features of that habitat in cultivation, so it can be that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing! By this I mean that there are so many other factors to consider about what a plant needs or what it wants or what it is prepared to tolerate, that merely looking to replicate SOME of the natural features in your garden or glasshouse will surely not be successful. It is more a question of understanding what temperature range a plant lives in, when it gets water in its growth cycle, etc..... and balancing these details with life in captivity.... so, that's my theory as to how to understand the requirements of a plant.... now to hear from one of the experts around the Forum who has good experience of growing Cyrtanthus in conditions which might be close to your climate.....  :)
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Alessandro.marinello on January 16, 2010, 12:27:03 PM
Hi Rob
I use peat with sand of quartz and pomice I hold, it in cold greenhouse, the feature like the other Cyrtanthus, and I do not have details problems
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: ArnoldT on January 16, 2010, 05:15:35 PM
Received this as an unknown.  Anybody know its identity?

Arnold
New Jersey


 edit by maggi: Arnold your phot was rather larger than the Forum "norm" which has a maximum width of 760 pixels so I have resized and replaced it... :D
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: wooden shoe on January 17, 2010, 05:44:31 PM
Hello Alessandro,
Thank you for your reply. So your Cyrtanthus epiphyticus is kept unheated and will get full frost? Does it looses it's leaves by then or is is evergreen?

Rob
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Alessandro.marinello on January 17, 2010, 06:07:31 PM
Hi Rob
The temperature of the greenhouse and 4-5 degrees c., turns out to be evergreen, now is regulating the flower, creed in flower between two weeks
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Juanba on January 25, 2010, 06:23:23 PM
Hi all,

Flowering here for me at the moment is Cyrtanthus mackenii ssp cooperi. The flowers are really beautiful and sweetly scented.

I had pollinated this plant (selfed) for three years but it was not successful, so I have a doubt about that. Is cross pollination between different clones essential to produce seed?

Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on January 25, 2010, 07:00:47 PM
Really beautiful Juan, such a gorgeous yellow.
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Juanba on January 25, 2010, 10:32:25 PM
Thanks David.
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Luar on February 15, 2010, 12:54:56 AM
Dear all,

First of all, I would like to express my thanks to Alberto and Hans for introducing me to this exciting forum!  I am new to this forum and this is actually my very first post...

I attach an image showing 3 flower spikes: the one in the middle is Cyrtanthus staadensis and the other two are Cyrtanthus spiralis.  The flowers do look quite similar to each other but Cyrtanthus spiralis develops spiral leaves.  I grow these two Cyrtanthus species in pure sand.  Sharp drainage is necessary particularly in cultivation as the bulbs are prone to rotting if they are given too much watering.

Luar
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Hans J on February 15, 2010, 07:37:01 AM
Hi Luar  :)

Welcome to the best forum of the world !
Enjoy your time here and have much fun

Nice to see this both plants flowering together !

Regards
Hans
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on February 15, 2010, 09:50:14 AM
Welcome Luar. A very good first post and a genus I have had no success with so far.

Hans J, will you please let me know which tablets you are taking, I would like to order some :P ;D
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Hans J on February 15, 2010, 10:29:54 AM
David ,

I suppose you mean my new pic ( avatar ) .....
Like others here I have now also found a pic from earlier times - we have now here Fasching (carneval) and so it is a good possibility  ;D

To your question with my tablets  ::)
Ask for :
Isopropylprophenylbarbitursauresphenyldimentylaminopyrozolon

Hans 8)
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on February 15, 2010, 12:15:29 PM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Hristo on February 15, 2010, 05:37:40 PM
I shall add my welcome Luar, a super first post with more to come no doubt!
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Alberto on February 15, 2010, 06:47:55 PM
Hello Luar, a hearthly welcome to you and your wonderful images. I know you have  a lot to show us!

Ciao
Alberto
 
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: angie on February 15, 2010, 09:38:27 PM
Hi Luar and welcome, just a wee warning its addictive this forum. Lovely cyrtanthus looking forward to see more of your plants.
Angie :)
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Luar on February 17, 2010, 04:23:03 PM
Dear all,

Thanks for your warm welcome.  I have just realised that there is already a thread on Cyrtanthus opened by Hans.  Cyrtanthus is commonly known as "Fire Lily" as it is said that fire would encourage bulbs to flower.  I did set my two pots of C. ventricosus in fire in late spring in 2 successive years (i.e. 2004 and 2005).  On both occasions, most bulbs flowered about 20 days after fire.  I am sure Cyrtanthus is not the only genus which responses to fire as I have heard that other South African bulbs, including certain species of Boophone, Hessea, Haemanthus and Lachenalia also respond to fire.  Has there any member in this forum tried the fire method for flowering their bulbs?  What is the result?

Luar

Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Hans J on February 17, 2010, 04:37:45 PM
Hi Luar ,

yes there exist a topic CYRTANTHUS 2010 ( http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4819.0 )

Maybe Maggi can help .....
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on February 17, 2010, 04:58:38 PM
Hi Luar ,

yes there exist a topic CYRTANTHUS 2010 ( http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4819.0 )

Maybe Maggi can help .....

 Sorry... I was cleaning my oven..... KentGardener is coming to stay and I didn't want to poison him.

The change is made!  :D
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Hans J on February 17, 2010, 05:09:14 PM
Thank you Maggi !
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 17, 2010, 05:48:04 PM
Quote
Sorry... I was cleaning my oven..... KentGardener is coming to stay and I didn't want to poison him.

and we've got to do it for next week, already bought the cleaner otherwise he might get poisoned twice ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on February 17, 2010, 06:01:21 PM
Quote
Sorry... I was cleaning my oven..... KentGardener is coming to stay and I didn't want to poison him.

and we've got to do it for next week, already bought the cleaner otherwise he might get poisoned twice ;D ;D
Well, QUITE! That would never do for the friendliest club in the Galaxy, would it?? ;D :P ::)
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Brian Ellis on February 17, 2010, 06:34:02 PM
Well there wouldn't be many of us left if it kept happening ;)
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on February 17, 2010, 06:43:52 PM
Well there wouldn't be many of us left if it kept happening ;)
Ian's theory is that if you crisp the grime up sufficiently, it kills any germs.... :-\ :P
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Gail on February 17, 2010, 06:45:36 PM
Has there any member in this forum tried the fire method for flowering their bulbs?  What is the result?

Luar


Hi Luar,
I've tried the fire method with a couple of haemanthus that don't want to flower.  Sad to say it didn't work for me.  I tried the flood method next and that was also unsuccessful, it will be plague and pestilence for them this year....
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on February 17, 2010, 06:56:07 PM
Picture was a bit large, Gail.... I've resized it..... also less terrifying to bulbs of a nervous nature to have smaller pic!! ;D ;)
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Hans J on March 22, 2010, 09:30:18 AM
Here some flowers of

Cyrtanthus brachyscyphus

enjoy
Hans
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on March 22, 2010, 10:50:59 AM
Here some flowers of

Cyrtanthus brachyscyphus

enjoy
Hans
Such a colour in the sunshine.... lovely!!
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Hans J on March 22, 2010, 01:50:27 PM
Yes Maggi !

we had in last time to much white flowers  ;)
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: angie on March 22, 2010, 09:31:27 PM
Hans, that's a lovely plant and your photography is excellent as well.
Angie :)
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: David Nicholson on March 22, 2010, 09:34:04 PM
Very nice Hans, what a stunning red.
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Hans J on March 22, 2010, 09:53:00 PM
Thank you Angie and David  :D

this plant flowers since two weeks ....but now are really a lot of flowers open
I have them given always a little water in this winter
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Paul T on June 17, 2010, 01:43:26 PM
Howdy All,

I have posted in previous years my seedling that flowered from seed of Cyrtanthus sanguineus x [Cyrtanthus sanguineus x Cyrtanthus loddigesianus]..... this year I had a second seedling flower, this one an orangey reddish colour.  I'm including here pics of both seedlings.  Similar shape, but VERY different colour.  ;D
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on June 17, 2010, 01:51:36 PM
VERY stylish seedlings.... isn't it great when a plan comes together?  :D
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Paul T on June 17, 2010, 11:46:56 PM
Maggi,

Even better, the plan was to cross them and one successfully set a pod.  Around 12 seeds resulted!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on June 18, 2010, 12:07:28 AM
HaHa! well done.... now to wait to see those babies.... I love a bit of family planning. ;D
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Paul T on June 18, 2010, 12:53:11 AM
It will be interesting to see what they produce.  I just have to get them sown (which is a problem I have at times  ::)). It would be interesting to see what they threw back to, or whether they would be as uniform in shape etc as these two sibling seedlings were.
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Alessandro.marinello on June 19, 2010, 11:56:10 AM
Paul
nice,A lot interesting your  Cyrtanthus hybrid :P
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Juanba on July 05, 2010, 11:28:49 AM
Here is a pot with Cyrtanthus elatus flowering now

Enjoy

Juanba
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Maggi Young on July 05, 2010, 12:25:25 PM
Juanba, a fine display there!
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Juanba on July 05, 2010, 04:54:05 PM
thanks for your compliment, Maggy!.
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Casalima on July 05, 2010, 05:50:43 PM
Very fine indeed! ĦUna preciosidad!
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: PeterT on July 06, 2010, 07:04:26 PM
Thats the best potfull of elata flowers I've seen, its superb!
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Hans J on September 11, 2010, 12:13:33 PM
in this days are flowering some Cyrtanthus from my collection :

Cyrtanthus hybrid ex PBS
Cyrtanthus spiralis

 8)
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Tony Willis on September 11, 2010, 12:54:36 PM
Hans both very nice but I think the spiralis is particularly so.
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: PeterT on September 12, 2010, 12:38:19 AM
I agree Tony, nice to meet you on Wednesday, your talk was excellent!
Hans, they are both lovely but especialy the spiralis
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Hans J on September 12, 2010, 08:43:55 AM
Thank you Tony + Peter  :)

I have in last year managed to get a second ( small ) plant of Cyr.spiralis ....so we can hope one day for seeds !
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: angie on September 12, 2010, 10:27:32 PM
Hans really like the Cyr.spiralis  8)

Juanba,  lovely Cyr.elatus must be a joy to have.

Angie :)
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: pehe on September 17, 2010, 08:03:43 AM
The first flower in three years. Cyrtanthus elatus.

Poul
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: angie on September 17, 2010, 08:30:52 AM
Really lovely and I can see another flowering stem there, thanks for sharing.

Angie :)
Title: Re: Cyrtanthus 2010
Post by: Paul T on September 23, 2010, 05:16:57 AM
Lovely, Hans and Poul.

I particularly like the flower form of the spiralis.  Great colour too. 8)
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